Is this legitimate reasoning?

[Georgie_Leech]

I have better question: Why on earth would it lead you to question whether it's a good reason to hate something? It is a flat out awful way to form an opinion on anything.

 

[Spinozaad]

Well, in his eyes the reasoning might seem legitimate:

1. All gays are abominations to God. No true Christian can like homosexuals.
2. Freddy Mercury was gay.
3. Therefore, Queen must be hated.

Anyone acquainted with logical reasoning and debating will tear this kind of reasoning to shreds, of course. The preliminary assumption is already false on so many levels.

 

[Silver_Shade]

Yes it's not very humane hating, but people hate all the time for good reasons, but most of the time for no reason at all.

Just like me, I seem to hate this bass

Spoiler

I just don't like it, for no reason at all.

Was I the only one expecting a fish?

OT: I don't think a person's sexual preferences shouldn't matter when considering their work or art. Some people will still care though. *shrug*

 

[Deef]

That's a bit too homophobic for my tastes, I don't think I'd want to be friends with that guy.

 

[Paksenarrion]

I had a similar reaction to your friend. I used to love Freddy Mercury because he was gay. Then I found out he was the lead singer of Queen, so I stopped liking him.

Yes, this is a joke.

 

[FightThePower]

No, that's a stupid reason. Hate to say it, but your friend is a prick.

 

[Kiju]

His dislike for Queen due to one member's gayness makes about as much sense as hitting someone with a hammer simply because they felt like it. It's illogical, crude, and very narrow-sighted. Honestly, I applaud the fact you didn't reach over and pour tabasco sauce in his eyes. I would have.

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

Spoiler: Click for original post (or not).

Your friend is basically an idiot - it's one thing to disapprove of an individual on moral grounds, and quite another to decide everything they do is therefore worthless, especially as he enjoyed the music before learning that detail about the vocalist.

Christians are called to be in the world, but not of the world - to live their lives as an example of what it means to exist in a state of grace. Too many forget that said grace is entirely unearned and undeserved, adopting a holier than thou attitude towards the secular world and dismissing the good along with the bad merely because of the source, for fear that anything less than condemnation will be seen as implicit approval of every aspect of the source of a work of [art, music, what have you].

Which is frankly a stupid thing for someone who believes that God created the heavens and the earth to do, considering the ultimate source then for all that is beautiful and worthwhile in the world, no matter the hands of mortal agencies involved, is still going to be that same God.

You may want to remind your bible-thumping acquaintance of the phrase "Hate the sin, love the sinner".

I agree.

I have tried to point out flaws in religion before, but I haven't had a smidgeon of success in that department.

Ah, I think we have a bit of a misunderstanding going - I wasn't arguing that the religion is flawed, merely the people purporting to be practicing it. I'm a Christian myself - I just maintain a keen awareness of the realities of my own sinful condition, and that redemption from my fallen state isn't something I can achieve on my own - there are none of us more 'holy than thou' ("all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God", to quote the book of Romans).

Those who call themselves followers of Christ would do well to remember that.

 

[Deadarm]

It goes as a legit reason to most of the people that I know, however if I like something I don't care what the people in charge on it are like.

 

[Divine Miss Bee]

I was talking with a few friends yesterday, and the topic changed to music after a while, specifically Queen. One of my friends (An extremely conservative, vocal Republican and bible-thumping Christian- I have nothing against those groups, and he's still a pretty good guy despite how annoying he sometimes gets) said that he used to love Queen, until he discovered that the main singer was gay, and now he hates them. Being a kind and polite kind of guy, I kept myself from bringing the topic up the faults in his reasoning and changed the topic.

Is this an actual reason to hate something? To me, this is a horribly homophobic and bigoted, but I'd like to see some other people's opinions on this.

this is what i like to call (after stealing it shamelessly from buffy) "insane troll logic." good music is good music, and sexual orientation has nothing to do with a person's talent. i understand that you want to respect your friend's opinion and can see why he may have made you too uncomfortable to respond, but he's pretty far in the wrong. maybe i'm just a very argumentative person by nature, but i'd've called him out on it and possibly punched him.

besides, i'm pretty sure that his jesus guy wanted everyone to love everyone else, right?

 

[Divine Miss Bee]

It is illogical.
To dislike a group because of one member makes no sense....

Which means my hatred of islam is illogical but I've known that with ages.

what's to hate about islam? muhammad took peace, acceptance, and love even further than the hindus-the qu'ran is flowery and sweet enough to make you puke sometimes, but it's not worth hating over.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Of course it's a reason to hate something, it's his. Doesn't mean it isn't an awfully bigoted and discriminating reason. He's an idiot.

It is illogical.
To dislike a group because of one member makes no sense....

Which means my hatred of islam is illogical but I've known that with ages.

Then why stick with it? If you know it's illogical, makes no sense and is general BS, why still have it? Why would anyone who realises that being a bigot is stupid still be a bigot?

Well, in his eyes the reasoning might seem legitimate:

1. All gays are abominations to God. No true Christian can like homosexuals.
2. Freddy Mercury was gay.
3. Therefore, Queen must be hated.

Anyone acquainted with logical reasoning and debating will tear this kind of reasoning to shreds, of course. The preliminary assumption is already false on so many levels.

Not that that matters, because lots of people won't listen to logic. Humans aren't logical beings, sadly, and trying to fight illogical people with logic is (again sadly) often fruitless.

 

[Mr. Mike]

I'm a Christian, a Catholic to be precise, but I honestly am fine with homosexuals and homosexuality. I don't really get what's so bad about it. I know that they say "man is supposed to be with woman" but there's no logic behind it. It's love.

I've been explained the "no contraception" rule, and to me it makes sense. Weird that I'm religious but don't accept things unless they're logical.

 

[Legendsmith]

Before your friend continues his stupid hate campaign perhaps you should remind him that being a hateful, homophobic bigot isn't the best way to "spread God's love."

I don't like gays, but I got nothing wrong with someone being homosexual.
To me, there is a distinction.

 

[Caiti Voltaire]

To the people wondering what the point to the original post is, it seems like a sanity check. When we're surrounded by these so-called religious folk, it makes on pause and think, hey, am I really in the right to disgree, you know?

 

[Super Toast]

Yes it's not very humane hating, but people hate all the time for good reasons, but most of the time for no reason at all.

Just like me, I seem to hate this bass

Spoiler

I just don't like it, for no reason at all.

Maybe because it's 'Baby Puke' coloured.

 

[mageyolook]

thats pretty fucking stupid IMO. the sexuality of the singer did not affect your friend before he found out about it, it makes no sense at all why finding out the singer is gay would change his opinion. if he used to love "we are the champions" , he should logically still love that song. being a homophobic intollerant twit like that just bugs me, beyond words, i hate people like that, and just want them to be tollerant! which is hyppocritical of me, cuz i am intolerant to the intolerant XP

 

[Grubnar]

No, no it is not. I doubt he hates them, he probably still listens to them. He just sounds like a close-minded person, who was told being a homosexual is wrong, and is incapable of forming his own opinions.

BINGO!

Somebody give this human a cookie.