Is this legitimate reasoning?

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Booze Zombie

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"An amazing band member has sex, it totally effects me!
Even though he's dead... and his sex has nothing to do with his music (except maybe as influence).
Fuck, I do like complaining just so I have something to talk about."

That's what people who talk like that come off as to me, so, no I do not think it is logical.
 

SaunaKalja

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I know very little about the members of the bands I listen to. If I now learned that one or more of them eat babies or do something else I'd consider evil, it wouldn't affect the music at all. It might contribute negatively to the music listening experience overall, since a thought "that vocalist eats babies" would propably cross my mind every time I heard a song by them.

A band members sexual orientation isn't one of those things that bothers me, but it might be different if I had been brainwashed to think homosexuality is something that earns you eternal divine punishment.
 

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Rhokk said:
Yes, homosexuality is something you're born with, but you never have to act on it. I know this might be blasphemy to some of you, but in my mind it's no different than being born with a disposition to become an alcoholic. Sure, you COULD end up really bad off, but you never have to take that first drink. It's just another trial we're given on this earth.
Alcoholism is typically not a disposition you are born with, it is an addiction you develop with consuming alcoholic beverages to an increasing amount. That is basically saying you are born with the inclination towards homosexuality, but if you want to be treated normally, you should deny that intricate part of whom you are for such sake.

Rhokk said:
Oh, and don't say that I don't know anything about homosexuality. My dad just got out of prison a couple of months ago. He was convicted for hiring hit men to murder my mom, because he decided he wanted to be gay. I kind of have a little bit of experience in the matter.
..How does that have anything to do with homosexuality? No offense, but your dad is somewhat backwards.

OT: No, not it is not. And you should rightfully call him out on it, as well.
 

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I was talking with a few friends yesterday, and the topic changed to music after a while, specifically Queen. One of my friends (An extremely conservative, vocal Republican and bible-thumping Christian- I have nothing against those groups, and he's still a pretty good guy despite how annoying he sometimes gets) said that he used to love Queen, until he discovered that the main singer was gay, and now he hates them. Being a kind and polite kind of guy, I kept myself from bringing the topic up the faults in his reasoning and changed the topic.

Is this an actual reason to hate something? To me, this is a horribly homophobic and bigoted, but I'd like to see some other people's opinions on this.
I agree its illogical, but then I could argue his entire perspective to be as such. Good job on avoiding the subject though, if he's your friend I doubt you'd want to get onto the topic.
 

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Rhokk said:
Yes, it is ridiculous for your friend to completely change his preferences based on something that is not at all related to music. Doing drugs is bad, but I don't think that makes me dislike The Beatles' music at all. If I found out that Bono was gay, it wouldn't suddenly make me hate his music.

I think you're lumping all Christians together, which is slightly unfair. Yes, there are those radical people who immediately cut off all contact with anything they find impure, but there's a fair lot of us that just love all people.

I know God and Jesus love Freddy Mercury. Sure, they may not have approved about what he did in his life, but hey, there's still time for him to learn the truth up in heaven. :D

Oh, and I don't think it's really fair to lump homosexuality with race. You can't choose to not be black. (excluding Michael Jackson, of course)

Yes, homosexuality is something you're born with, but you never have to act on it. I know this might be blasphemy to some of you, but in my mind it's no different than being born with a disposition to become an alcoholic. Sure, you COULD end up really bad off, but you never have to take that first drink. It's just another trial we're given on this earth.

Oh, and don't say that I don't know anything about homosexuality. My dad just got out of prison a couple of months ago. He was convicted for hiring hit men to murder my mom, because he decided he wanted to be gay. I kind of have a little bit of experience in the matter.

Anyway,

tl;dr, no it is not reasonable for your friend to act that way. Learning he's gay in no way changed anything about the music he once enjoyed. He's just generalizing that everything gay = bad.
Wouldn't he be 'learning the truth' down in hell?

You don't choose to be homosexual, trust me, if you could I'd have already tried and failed a career in prostitution. If you truly believe that it is, then you also believe that you shouldn't have sex AT ALL unless its for procreation, and if you believe that... Well we just have differing opinions I suppose, but I'd say you're missing out on one of the most fundamental flaws of humanity. (Guess that's why I prefer not to believe in Heaven or Hell, where's the fun?) Tell me, why is sex so taboo? Avoiding the discussion of god, what makes your religion right compared to others?

Sorry if I'm coming off as a bit provocative, its not my intention. A conversation is.
 
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It's very silly. You should be able to appreciate art without it being influenced by your views on the artist. Michael Jackson's another good example, bit more recent though. So many people declared his music to be tainted when the allegations against him started appearing. It doesn't make the music any less good what the artist did or didn't do in his spare time, and it is entirely possible to listen to music and enjoy it, while still villifying the artist for actions he may or may not have committed.

So while I don't agree with your friend fundamentally on the point of someone's sexuality being in any way wrong, I disagree even more on his attitude towards the beautiful art this man created, whatever his sexuality.
 

TheRundownRabbit

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Im the same as your friend, but Im not gonna stop liking a band just because one member is gay. that is illogical and people like your friend gives us conservatives a bad name.
 

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SaunaKalja said:
I know very little about the members of the bands I listen to. If I now learned that one or more of them eat babies or do something else I'd consider evil, it wouldn't affect the music at all.
Wow, I was gonna say something about baby eaters too... Yeah, I agree with that, I do not care about the members of the band, just the music.
 

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No it's fucking stupid. I mean, it might be reason to dislike the singer himself (even though that's still retarded) but there's no reason to hate the rest of the band :S
 

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No, he does not have a legitimate reason. The music is not gay, just the singer. By singing the music, he did not make it gay music, just music that was sung by a gay.

As an experiment, tell him that all of his clothes were made by gays and see if he throws them off in disgust. Or tell him that the food he is about to eat was made by gays and see if he tosses it into the trash. Odds are that he won't because the end product is not gay itself, and it would just leave him naked and hungry.
 

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I can sort of understand him being opposed to certain Queen songs (Don't Stop Me Now for instance), as the lyrics may send a different message now he's aware Freddie was gay. It's not a legitimate reason to dislike a band, but I would say I can sort of understand it.
 

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Mr. Mike said:
I'm a Christian, a Catholic to be precise, but I honestly am fine with homosexuals and homosexuality. I don't really get what's so bad about it. I know that they say "man is supposed to be with woman" but there's no logic behind it. It's love.

I've been explained the "no contraception" rule, and to me it makes sense. Weird that I'm religious but don't accept things unless they're logical.
That's not weird though, that's ideal. I may not agree with you on the contraception issue, but you've come to your own conclusion about it, and I accept that. I've nothing against people who have strong religious beliefs, for a lot of people it can be great guidance for life, but I just can't stand people who just refuse to think for themselves; believing that being part of a greater group absolves them of having some very questionable values. So I applaud you for trying to make the distinction between right and wrong for yourself, because using logical reasoning is the only way to reduce the insane amount of prejudice in the world. (and this goes for everyone, not directed at religions in particular)
 

yankeefan19

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I have a friend who is exactly like that, and it is always the most retarded reason to hate something.
 

008Zulu_v1legacy

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I think Tom Cruise is as mad as a hatter (Mad as a hatter was originally derived from the old process of making hats, Mercury was used and the fabric absorb trace amounts which in turn were absorbed by the wearer) for openly supporting and promoting Scientology (whose founder, as evidence seems to support, may have been a pedophile). All this doesnt stop me from enjoying his movies whenever they are on. And to a lesser extent, John Travolta's works.
 

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I think it is legitimate reasoning. He probably looked up to the band. To find that the main singer is gay is a big deal if you have views like he does. I don't agree with his views, but I do agree with his reasoning.

Long story short; His heroes weren't what he thought they were.
 

TheMatt

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As I've already said just fricking today American crazy Christians are as bad as the fricking Taliban. They are even worse when it comes to mixed messages, at least fricking Al Queda stays on topic.

"Jesus loves you, care for one another, KILL ALL THE FAGGOTS IN FIERY BRIMSTONE!!!!"

It's VERY confusing.

edit - OP - so no, I do not believe it is a good enough reason to hate someone