Is this racist, does my teacher have a right to punish me for this?

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cookyy2k

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renegade7 said:
We were discussing attraction in psychology today and we did a worksheet, one of the questions being about what we find attractive in the opposite sex. When it got to which physical characteristics we find most attractive, I listed:

somewhat tall
healthy-looking, ie in good shape but not too skinny
dark hair
white skin

and some other things, but that last one was what got me in trouble. Now, at no point did I say I find other skin colors unattractive, and I did not say that I find colored people unattractive, just for their skin color. All I said was that it was one of many physical characteristics (saying nothing of personality and intellectual traits) that I find attractive. And also, it's not like I'd turn down a girl just because of her skin color, to me it's just one trait that I notice, and there are many more (saying nothing of intellectual and personality traits). To me, dating a black or asian girl would be no different than dating a blonde, yes I prefer dark to blonde hair but I can still find her attractive and nice (hopefully). I thought I was being honest about a personal opinion in a mature discussion about a mature topic.

In short, it's no different than my finding dark brown hair more attractive than light blonde hair. It's only a superficial thing.

Anyway, she didn't even give me a chance to explain what I meant by that, and wouldn't hear a word of it when I tried. Now I have to write a paper about racial tolerance. Is this right? Am I a racist, just for finding one skin color more physically appealing than the others?

EDIT/UPDATE: Okay, so the term 'colored people' comes off as racist. Just a poor choice of words on my part, sorry. I'd actually been told it was the politically correct term.
So is expressing the fact you only find women attractive and not guys sexist?
 

acosn

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It's not racist.

You're not racist.

Personal preference of what you find attractive doesn't even begin to encroach on what quantifies "racism."

Don't write the paper. If she gives you crap for it tell her you'll want to talk to the principal / councilor / what have you first.
 

Killertje

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renegade7 said:
Anyway, she didn't even give me a chance to explain what I meant by that, and wouldn't hear a word of it when I tried.
If people don't want to talk about things they are being irrational. Irrational people should be ignored, especially if they piss you off. Talk to her boss instead.
 

adorabelle

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I am more baffled by the fact that you had to answer this question in the first place, why are your sexual preferences / tastes even relevant? Well, I suppose the assignment must have had some purpose that I am failing to see..And

Having said that, it is not racist at all. People are very touchy about this things though, so in the future, I would refrain from putting it like that. If I, for example, went around saying "I LOVE WHITE SKIN.", that could easily be misunderstood.

On another note, what I find attractive (opposite sex or not) has changed a LOT through time. I am 23 now and I have had many changes of heart and, IMHO, what you find attractive is not something you are born with, but something you develop based on your cultural surroundings, etc... And like your taste in music or anything really, it can change.
 

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I don't think it's racist, no. And if I were keeping a running tally of stupid things done by schools in the name of political correctness this would be on there.

Stupid things like this are why you must make teachers/authority figures EARN your respect before you share personal things. Somebody mentioned writing your paper on the difference between political correctness and personal preference; I think that's a wonderful idea.
 

cookyy2k

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renegade7 said:
Mr Ink 5000 said:
your turn ons are your own and PC IMO doesnt come into it
what was the punishment?
It was in the OP, I have to write a paper on racial tolerance, due tomorrow.
Wait, tolerance. As in to tolerate.

tol·er·ate
verb /ˈtäləˌrāt/ 
tolerated, past participle; tolerated, past tense; tolerates, 3rd person singular present; tolerating, present participle

Allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference
- a regime unwilling to tolerate dissent

Accept or endure (someone or something unpleasant or disliked) with forbearance
- how was it that she could tolerate such noise?

Be capable of continued subjection to (a drug, toxin, or environmental condition) without adverse reaction
- lichens grow in conditions that no other plants tolerate
Nowhere does that say you have to even like people of other races from your own to be classed as tolerant. You just have to accept or "put up with", nowhere does it say like or be attracted to.
 

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Im just gonna say that i think you made your mistake using the word white. if you had gone with fair skin then you probably wouldn't of had this problem. All im gonna say to you though is that if you don't have a problem with it and you didn't mean to be racist about it screw what everyone else says.
 

Tselis

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Wow, and in psychology too. Your teacher just lost a massive opportunity to teach about the differences in what people find attractive versus what society expects them to find attractive. In a psych class too, that just blows my mind. They should know better. I would appeal that to the department director.
 

Robert Ewing

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That's like calling someone homophobic for not finding a man attractive. It's absolutely stupid. If you don't find black women attractive, then so what?

personally, I find white and black women attractive, depending on there... general attractiveness, I've dated many white and black women before. But I never find Asian women very attractive. I know the given woman is pretty, or cute. But I'd never picture myself actually pursuing her romantically.

Black women do look different to white women. If you took a black woman's face, and a white woman's face, and gray scale them, then you can clearly tell what race each of them are. They have different facial features, different definitions. And it's the facial features and facial definitions that attract you to them. And if you don't like the definitions and features of the typical black women, then that's freaking fine. They aren't attractive to you, so what? It's in no way racist to find someone unattractive, or having a different preference in skin color.

Like I said, I've dated both white and black women, but I still prefer white women over black women. It's just my preference.
 

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renegade7 said:
We were discussing attraction in psychology today and we did a worksheet, one of the questions being about what we find attractive in the opposite sex. When it got to which physical characteristics we find most attractive, I listed:

somewhat tall
healthy-looking, ie in good shape but not too skinny
dark hair
white skin

and some other things, but that last one was what got me in trouble. Now, at no point did I say I find other skin colors unattractive, and I did not say that I find colored people unattractive, just for their skin color. All I said was that it was one of many physical characteristics (saying nothing of personality and intellectual traits) that I find attractive. And also, it's not like I'd turn down a girl just because of her skin color, to me it's just one trait that I notice, and there are many more (saying nothing of intellectual and personality traits). To me, dating a black or asian girl would be no different than dating a blonde, yes I prefer dark to blonde hair but I can still find her attractive and nice (hopefully). I thought I was being honest about a personal opinion in a mature discussion about a mature topic.

In short, it's no different than my finding dark brown hair more attractive than light blonde hair. It's only a superficial thing.

Anyway, she didn't even give me a chance to explain what I meant by that, and wouldn't hear a word of it when I tried. Now I have to write a paper about racial tolerance. Is this right? Am I a racist, just for finding one skin color more physically appealing than the others?

EDIT/UPDATE: Okay, so the term 'colored people' comes off as racist. Just a poor choice of words on my part, sorry. I'd actually been told it was the politically correct term.

Now why would you be racist for being more attracted physically to persons of your own race/skin color? I'm absolutely dumbfounded that anybody would accuse you of racism. Or simply talk to whoever is giving you a paper on racial tolerance.

I am so upset that it's even possible for this to happen. It's one thing to respect and treat all races equally. It's another to be forced to be physically attracted to all races equally.


Talk to one of your teacher's superiors.
 

evilneko

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No it's not racist. Your teacher should not have punished you in any way.

You could write a paper about how racial tolerance also means accepting that some people are more attracted to certain skin colors than others, though, as a not-so-subtle Take That against your instructor. That's probably what I would do. Well, aside from fighting the assignment in the first place.
 

sleeky01

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So if the OP wrote down 'Vagina' as a preference, would he then be just sexist or outright gay-bashing?
 

wulfy42

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I suggest going to your parents and telling them the situation and that you would like to go to the principal about the issue. Go to the principal and describe what happened and the fact that your teacher basically called you a racist in front of the whole class (chewing you out and giving you extra work etc).

Tell the principal you want the teacher to make a statement to the entire class that she/he was wrong and apologize for her actions, or you will sue her and the school for defamation of character.

Honestly the teacher should not even be asking students about what they find attractive, that is a personal question and not something a teacher needs to know, but a teacher should certainly NOT be making statements about what you find attractive or labeling you as a racist based on your preferences. That is unprofessional and could have serious consequences.

The teacher should be reprimanded in my opinion and restrained from having such lesson plans in the future. You are entitled to find whoever you want attractive as long as you act responsibly on your attraction. It sounds like she had a problem with you (Can't imagine a guy teacher doing this) and just used this as an excuse.
 

Jaime_Wolf

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Are you sexist because you aren't attracted to men?

I would bring the matter to an administrator's attention. Whatever you do, do not write the essay trying to show how wrong the instructor is. You will never win - you're challenging her authority and maintaining that authority is part of her job description.

Normally I would just say write the essay and more on with your life, but other posts above this one seem to suggest that she made an issue of it in front of the class. This is not appropriate in any way and that escalates it to a situation where you really should probably take it to an administrator.
 

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That was definitely not racist. Even if it had been - it is certainly noone's business but your own. A person should be judged by his actions, not by his thoughts, beliefs and .. preferences. There's this lovely book "1984", perhaps your teacher should read it.
This person has demonstrated that he has no business being a teacher, especially not a psychology teacher. You should see the higher ups and get yourself and your peers someone more qualified.
Not sure whether you should write that paper or not - one on hand writing it screams "Guilty", on the the other hand not writing it may give your teacher an excuse to punish you further. If I were you I'd decide it based on how lazy I was at the moment.
Should you decide to write it I suggest starting it with definition of "race" and how meaningless it really is (you can check this video if you want http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrKrGkgeww4), then move on to "tolerance" and how its treating people respectfully and fairly despite them being different. Tolerance implies that you don't like someone yet treat him as though you do - you have no need to tolerate someone you do like. Someone liking black people for instance is not tolerance, hating them but treating them fairly nonetheless is. Then I suggest finishing that unfortunately our world is not ideal and there is plenty of intolerance in it, in a racially tolerant society a person would not be discriminated simply on the grounds that he finds females with white skin attractive.
 

Dracowrath

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It's not racist. IMO, racism is the belief that one race is superior to another. All this is is you prefering one skin color to another, not one race to another. That said, it may not have been a wise decision despite it not being racist. Not punishment worthy but still.
 

BenzSmoke

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It's a personal preference question, you shouldn't be punished for writing your personal preference!