Is this racist, does my teacher have a right to punish me for this?

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i7omahawki

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crudus said:
i7omahawki said:
I think it's actually in our code to be anti-racist, especially when it comes to reproduction. Novelty is an important factor and different races (back then) were nothing if not novelty. On the other hand we had an inset tribalism which is probably what stirs up racism today.
Well here's the thing: back in the hunter-gatherer days the most attractive person was the person with the most "normal" features(more "normal" the "better" your genes are). When you are a baby, that is your mother who is the same skin-tone as you. As you got older that would stay with you. Therefore, if you encountered a different race, the logic is "that isn't normal and has terrible genes". For the most part that seems to be staying with us today(hence why races still exist).
Well see, that just doesn't make any sense to me.

Why would that behaviour be instilled through evolution? Surely it is evolutionary beneficial to favour divergency (to a degree). Otherwise when an adaption was coming about, it would be quelled right away and the result is that we'd die out.

Anyhow, I remember reading a paper about sexual conditioning in which partners tired of each other and sought after 'novel' partners as a way of getting their seed spread, so to speak. Whether that's accurate, or if I could even find it on demand, is anyone's guess.
 

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Your preferences are not racist.

Your tone is racist.

Racism is all about action and communication. You may have a preference for white girls, which is all well and good, but expressing it in public with such terms is racism. This is because political correctness is, in fact, a gag order.

Just as hate speech is not considered responsible exercise of one's free speech rights, expressing one's preferences in racial terms is, in fact, racist.

If you had said "fair complexioned" you would not have gotten the same reaction, because in that case you are discriminating not based on the person's racial origin, but on their physical appearance.

It can be argued that "white skin" is a phrase that has no link to the person's race, but the key word here is the colour "white".

Sadly, the colours "white" and "black" now have racial connotations and as a result, their use should be monitored.

The discussion is not on whether racism is natural or not, but whether what you wrote was racist, and it is indeed racist. Your preferences are not, the fact that you expressed them in public with that term, is.

Yes, it's annoying. But then, being unable to shoot trespassers in the face is annoying, too. And neccesary.
 

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Also, call her out on her blatant homophobia for not asking what you find attractive in the same sex.
I wonder if a student put "I don't find anything attractive in woman" followed by "I find strong men attractive" that would throw the teacher quite a curve ball.

No, your teacher is just being a donkey ass. Just do a paper on the difference between racism and preference. I'll start you off.

"Racism is to where you intently and knowingly hate another skin color or race. Using this hate to discriminate them. While preference is a personal opinion on how you feel about something.
For example, Guy A wants to hang out with this Caucasian woman he knows, because he finds her more attractive, but is friends with a Asian and Hispanic girls who he will join for a movie tomorrow. Is Guy A racist for finding the Caucasian woman attractive over his two other friends?
Guy A is not racist because hes not discriminating against the woman or is not hanging out with them because he hates them, but because he would like to hang out with his girl of choice.
As a species we have not advanced very far when it comes to pro-creating, our minds are hard wired in such a way to what will get us ready for pro-creation. Let it be hair or skin color, were just hard wired to want to pro-create with those certain types of people.

In conclusion, we have learned that its not Racist to find a race more attractive then other ones."


Your teacher is just punishing you for no reason.
 

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THats bullshit, you are alowwed to prefer a skin colour.

My firend was once held back after school because he asked why African villages that walk 4 miles to water everyday don't just move closer.
I think he had a good point.
 

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That is ridiculous. Your teacher asked what you found attractive in the opposite sex. I assume the intentions were specifically physical, and great personality and intelligence weren't supposed to be considered. So you find light skin attractive. That's no more racist than saying you find dark hair attractive. In her mind I guess it's fine to be prejudice against hair colour, but not skin colour.

Would she rather you lied?

My advice: refuse to do the paper on racial tolerance, citing that it's prejudicial and you are being punished for honestly completing an assignment. It's also completely unrelated. Tolerance is not the same as dating.
 

SangRahl

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I call BS on your teacher, do a paper on the difference between racial tolerance and personal preference, your teacher should take the hint.
Yep... Had a paper WAY back in grade school that my history teacher swore was plaguerized. Was told I could take a 0%, or write another paper (double the length) on any topic I chose. So, I wrote about plaguerism, it's effect on academia, the consequences for commiting the act, and the effects of wrongful accusations of such.

I got my 100% and an 'atta boy' from my English teacher, who couldn't stand her colleague.


OT: You got caught by a sensitive teacher because of a mis-spoken word... it happens. You can either go through 'official' channels or put forth the effort to get your point accross through the assigned paper. Both tille take up time and require both a cool head and strong verbal skills... Which way you go depends on what final outcome you really want from the ordeal.
 

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Nothing wrong with not wanting to bone black people. I mean what if you said "owns a vagina"?

I suggest you just define Racial tolerance and sexual preference and leave it at that in your essay.
 

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imnotparanoid said:
THats bullshit, you are alowwed to prefer a skin colour.

My firend was once held back after school because he asked why African villages that walk 4 miles to water everyday don't just move closer.
I think he had a good point.
Don't you get it, any criticism of black people is racist. That's why the Tea Party is racist, not because of any legitimate grievances, but because the President is Black!
 

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Colored people? lol
Feels like I just traveled to 1960.
you needed to be told a politically correct term? Now I know you didnt mean to be racist with your paper. smh.

But White skin does sound racist. Fair skin, cool. White skin sounds like..."No Darkies"
White people have white skin. Colored people have colored skins.

Racism is the belief that there are inherent different traits in human racial groups which justify discrimination.

Nothing racist here, move along.
Colored people? gtfoh.Do you ask friends if they date any colored people? Asian, Black or Hispanic? Bet you dont.
Are you denying Asians, Hispanics and Blacks have colored skins? Hilarious! What should we call it then? I don't know any other word for color than color.

Again, "Racism is the belief that there are inherent different traits in human racial groups which justify discrimination.".

Calling people black, white or yellow is not racism, don't be ridiculous.
Nobody says Im dating a white skinned girl.
Because there are plenty of white skinned girls out there. If someone were in the position of describing what type of girl you were dating then giving a description that would fit just about nearly every woman you encounter in a crowd would accomplish nothing. They would rather point out something that makes her unique from what they consider to be normal, like green hair or something. If people grew up around other people that were mostly black (oh fuck off i'm not going to bother with whatever the politically correct name trend is now, if they are ashamed of their own color then that is their problem, it's not like a disability or anything so I have no need to try to deny what their skin looks like to make them feel better about having it) then they would point out that you were dating a white girl because to them, white isn't the typical skin color they grow up around or encounter so much.

This is why being called the ginger guy doesn't bother me. I know it makes me different and I know people's brains will associate my identity to it because it's not something they grew up typically seeing throughout the day and it's the most obvious characteristic that they can use to identify me in a world of normal, average-looking guys with little other things to make them any different from the rest. It also isn't a disability or a disease like cancer that brings down my mood just from people mentioning it's presence on me. I also never chose to have it, so whether people like it or not won't be a failure or success on my behalf because I never did anything to be responsible for it.

People, stop being uptight and overly sensitive over what color your body parts are. Treat every person with respect and dignity and our aesthetic differences will be nothing more than the things that makes us, us.
 

Zachary Kramer

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Your teacher is an idiot. Besides, if we're all forced to focus of racial, gender, etc. "tolerance" as opposed to individualism, we just wind up reinforcing and accepting a lot of old stereotypes and propaganda. Both South Park and Penn & Teller's B.S. did a good job with the facts here (not that I take all of my social graces from South Park, but they occasionally get it right on).
 

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Actually, that is kind of racist. Like Avenue Q said, everyone's a little bit racist. But racism at this level isn't bad enough to have any punishment besides getting a few looks. So no, you do not deserve to get punished by the school, but understand that it is a little bit racist. Maybe you can make an essay about if everyone admitted this trait that we have, then we could live in a better world.
 

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I'm glad I don't live in a country with so much history in slavery that you can't be socially open and everything has to be branded in varying degrees of racism.

On the topic of tolerance: Today, my teacher spent some time explaining how it was perfectly understandable to think religion is weird in today's society. That was sort of risque.
 

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Anyway, she didn't even give me a chance to explain what I meant by that, and wouldn't hear a word of it when I tried. Now I have to write a paper about racial tolerance. Is this right? Am I a racist, just for finding one skin color more physically appealing than the others?
No, you are not a racist. You're perfectly entitled to be attracted to what you're attracted to. Are you sexist for being attracted to women instead of men? Of course not. This PC garbage is just that: garbage. Say the words "politically correct" to yourself a few times and listen to them as they come out. Now say them in a German accent. No? You prefer Russian or North Korean for your totalitarian needs? The point is the same. It's someone imposing their social engineering BS on you.

There's courtesy, and being thoughtful, and not bandying the N-word about, and then there's BS like this were they don't want you to have preferences. It's from the same stupid people that bring you "participation trophies" and not keeping score in little league games. It's crap. Don't take it.
 

Trippy Turtle

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That's not racist at all... I swear it was that generation once trying to teach me "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me". Whatever happened to that?
 

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Someone linked this in another thread, kind of fits for this one too now that I think about it.


Opps, my Captcha is sexist. Guypes and no girlpes.
 

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Trippy Turtle said:
That's not racist at all... I swear it was that generation once trying to teach me "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me". Whatever happened to that?
Well, we realized that words have a lot of power. Words shape our entire existence and our perceptions, including our world views and the way we conceive race. So, yes, they can hurt you and can, also, do SO much more.
 

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I would instead write a paper on the inadequacies of modern teaching, and see what happens. And no, I do not think that it is racist. Your teacher is a dumb face.