Is this racist?
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Es gracioso, por que en XBOX Live si me encuentro con otro Méxicano comunmente comenzamos a decirnos de cosas en español (mas que nada insultos), lo cual inmediatamente algunos de los integrantes de nuestro equipo que no hablan español se ponen a quejarse y a decirnos "frijoleros" "mojados" y cosas asi
cosa curiosa por que en ningun momento cuando nos conectamos (o ellos se conectaron) establecieron "Estados Unidos" como el area para buscar un juego, porsupuesto que esto significa que no pueden quejarse con quedar entre Méxicanos/Alemanes/Franceses o como sea.
ED: i meant to post this in both languages but i pressed "post" before i translated it, sorry!
Its funny, because on XBOX live if i find another mexican communly we start to say a lot of things in spanish (most of them insults), wich immediatly some of the guys on our team that dont speak spanish begin to whine and call us "beaners" or "wet backs" and stuff like that
courious thing because there was not one time when we connected (or they connected) did we stablished "united states" as the area to search for a game, of course it means they cant complain when they are left among Mexican/German/frenchs or wathever.
cosa curiosa por que en ningun momento cuando nos conectamos (o ellos se conectaron) establecieron "Estados Unidos" como el area para buscar un juego, porsupuesto que esto significa que no pueden quejarse con quedar entre Méxicanos/Alemanes/Franceses o como sea.
ED: i meant to post this in both languages but i pressed "post" before i translated it, sorry!
Its funny, because on XBOX live if i find another mexican communly we start to say a lot of things in spanish (most of them insults), wich immediatly some of the guys on our team that dont speak spanish begin to whine and call us "beaners" or "wet backs" and stuff like that
courious thing because there was not one time when we connected (or they connected) did we stablished "united states" as the area to search for a game, of course it means they cant complain when they are left among Mexican/German/frenchs or wathever.
nah, if it's an english website, it's just rude and/or intimidating to use another language. and the same does of course apply in reverse
Jeg mener jeg bær ha rett til å bruke mitt eget språk.
Translation: I think I should have the right to use my own language. A pure lie. If you want to communicate to a bunch of strangers that you know probably will understand English and maybe, just maybe understand French, why not use English?! I have had people trying to yell at me in several languages I don't know, it just makes me annoyed.
Language doesn't have anything to do with believing in races. Believing I don't understand Portuguese doesn't mean I believe those who speak Portuguese are a different race. Nor does it mean anything but that I am pretty sure I do not speak Portuguese.
Check the definition of racism before you post questions like this the next time.
Translation: I think I should have the right to use my own language. A pure lie. If you want to communicate to a bunch of strangers that you know probably will understand English and maybe, just maybe understand French, why not use English?! I have had people trying to yell at me in several languages I don't know, it just makes me annoyed.
Language doesn't have anything to do with believing in races. Believing I don't understand Portuguese doesn't mean I believe those who speak Portuguese are a different race. Nor does it mean anything but that I am pretty sure I do not speak Portuguese.
Check the definition of racism before you post questions like this the next time.
Not in the slightest. I'm not sure that could be considered racism anyway.
Server owners have every right to dictate the rules of their server since its their property. And because it is their server you are playing on you don't have any rights there. Besides, its perfectly acceptable to want to be able to communicate with the people that are playing in your server. And its perfectly acceptable to not want to listen to conversation which is meaningless to them.
Server owners have every right to dictate the rules of their server since its their property. And because it is their server you are playing on you don't have any rights there. Besides, its perfectly acceptable to want to be able to communicate with the people that are playing in your server. And its perfectly acceptable to not want to listen to conversation which is meaningless to them.
Quiet Stranger said:
At worst this is a case of racial discrimination, but if there's a rule on the server "Speak English" you should agree to that before you join. When you go to Saudi Arabia it's illegal to drink alcohol, is it racist if they tell you to stop drinking if they spot you? I mean, that's a cultural difference from Saudi Arabia and us.Wikipedia said:
Depends on the forum. If I was playing a Role Playing Game on an English-language forum and there was one guy typing in fluent Russian I don't think I'd be expected to try and learn Russian. It's like how people were talking about the racism in the Hobbit movie casting. Often there are simply basic criteria which must be met in some circumstances, and you shouldn't automatically call 'racism' on them.
There's a clear reason for not having people who can't communicate on a forum. The word itself means a place for the communicating of ideas, and if the majority of the people you are trying to communicate to speak one language, then why should they have to learn yours just so you can put across your views? You wouldn't expect someone to move to America and insist everyone learned French just so they could communicate.
There's a clear reason for not having people who can't communicate on a forum. The word itself means a place for the communicating of ideas, and if the majority of the people you are trying to communicate to speak one language, then why should they have to learn yours just so you can put across your views? You wouldn't expect someone to move to America and insist everyone learned French just so they could communicate.
Not really racist, besides, the internet isn't national domain, freedom of speech doesn't apply because it is under the host's right to allow people there. That's why profanity filters are allowed, and why sexual conduct will get you banned from most chatrooms.
Common sense is completely subjective. Just because you think something is obvious doesn't mean it is, or even that it is true. Why should I assume you mean an English website? In fact, since your original post clearly states 'online server' one would think it most sensible to assume you meant something like an online server where you play a game. Coupled with your obvious ignorance as to what the term racism means, the only thing that seems to be inherently obvious about your post is that you are bigoted, confused, and not particularly outspoken.dathwampeer said:
Also, you are pretty sure about German forums. Well, I'm glad you have confidence in your opinion, but do you have any basis for this? I know that when I have gone to tournaments in Germany for games, where multiple nationalities and primary languages exist, it IS most proper to use English, since it is a common language for many people there. If French were still the most common language in the West, though, that is exactly what would be used there instead.
My original post here was made assuming you had actual intentions of discourse on the subject, but it appears you have simply trying to quote mine rationale as to why it is okay that you do the things you do, instead of looking for alternative view points.
I say, good Day to You sir. Good Day.
Man one day I hope they make a realistic soldier-war game where you can use hand signals.dogstile said:
Not at all, it's like asking people not to speak English in a let's say Korean School (went to mine today you see). It'd be annoying with everyone speaking a language and some guy speaking another.
And it's also not racist because when you need backup and all you're going to say is 'help!' in a Russian speaking game, you're fucked.
Communication people, I know I'd rather have people who speak my own language. It's disrespectful to talk in English in Korean Maple Story, because a lot of them don't understand!
Freedom of speech does not apply to personal property. You have the right to insult Johnny Cash at your house, but not at my house for example. If the government was running a forum and forbade non-English, that would be a violation of free speech. Also, language has nothing to do with racism, black people can speak English just like white people can speak Finnish.Quiet Stranger said:
People are well within their rights to only allow a specific language in things they own.
No, it's not racist nor does it violate any rights. Private enterprise does not need to consider most of your freedoms, because the Bill of Rights only applies to government affairs. And how is wanting people to speak English racist? It's annoying to have people speaking other languages around you when you can't understand them.
And to the guy two posts above: Someone disagreeing with you isn't trolling. I feel like 99% of the time I hear someone call someone else trolling, then they must not have any idea what trolling actually is.
And to the guy two posts above: Someone disagreeing with you isn't trolling. I feel like 99% of the time I hear someone call someone else trolling, then they must not have any idea what trolling actually is.