Is Windows 7 worth the wait?

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cathou

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honestly i run vista and windows 7 beta in dual boot in my computer and both run fine. Vista is very stable since SP1, and i have plenty of ram to make it work better than xp in my opinion. I've played L4D on windows 7 and so far it worked just great

If you upgrade parts of your computer, dont buy vista and wait for windows 7. But if you plan to buy a pre-build computer, Microsoft will offer a free upgrade from Vista business to windows 7 to every computer bought after june 26th until january 30th
 

Sevre

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I think its likely that most of us will be upgrading to the epic Windows 7 by the end of the year or sometime into next year anyways.
 

SoonerMatt

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cathou said:
If you upgrade parts of your computer, dont buy vista and wait for windows 7. But if you plan to buy a pre-build computer, Microsoft will offer a free upgrade from Vista business to windows 7 to every computer bought after june 26th until january 30th
I thought MS was starting that on June 1st.... Oh well, can't say I'm surprised with that decision.

The beta of Windows 7 is rock solid. I'm doing a build this summer and will definitely be putting Windows 7 on there when it's released.
 

Cid Silverwing

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DO NOT even think about upgrading to Windows 7. Not even Vista. Stick to Windows XP if that's what you got now. Trust me.
 

clarinetJWD

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Wow...

Vista had a bad launch due to driver and software incompatabilities, necessary to rebuild aging archetecture of the OS. Within a few months, and especially by SP1, Vista certainly surpassed XP. Maybe not in brute speed, but in usability, due to a number of interface improvements.

As for being a memory hog, well, yes, it used more memory than XP. Then again, when XP came out, it was seen as a huge memory hog, and I certainly didn't have more than 512MB of RAM at the time (I'm not sure I even had that much). What Vista does is take advantage of systems with a lot of memory, loading frequently used applications before they are launched to speed up performance. Why even have a system with 2+GB of RAM if you just want it to sit there? Oh, and for whoever suggested XP-64, just...no. XP-64 came out too early, and has almost no support for applications and drivers. Vista 64, on the other hand, is very well supported.

As far as other things go, I recently saw a chart (Can't remember where, maybe Maximum PC) that represented OS security. Over 30% of XP installs had some sort of malware on them when tested, while Vista was around 5%, and with SP1 dropped to 3%.

Now that that's out of the way, on to Windows 7. I'll admit, I haven't booted into Vista in a month or so, but that's because 7 is a big step up. Anything that works in Vista will work in 7, because it's based on the same NT kernal (Vista was 6.0, 7 is actually 6.1), and it's faster than either Vista or XP at pretty much everything. There are some beta-esque bugs in the 7000 build, but MS already said they've tracked down and fixed over 2000 bugs due to the open beta.

I'm running 7 on my Gaming/general purpose PC, my small SSD based laptop (With an old Core Duo (not c2d) and 2GB ram), and my touchscreen kitchen PC (Yes, kitchen PC. Basically a netbook in a case. Atom, 2GB RAM, slow hard drive), and it is excellent on all of them, even giving me smooth eye candy on the netbook spec PC.

You can add me to the list of "Will buy 7 the second it's made available" people. It's going to be an expensive day, though upgrading those 3 and my Media Center...
 

theklng

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Fraser.J.A said:
From what I've heard, Windows 7 is likely to be much better than Vista. The development of Vista was plagued with problems, whereas with Windows 7 I believe they had a clearer idea of what they wanted to do and had a smoother path to making it happen. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, of course, so it might turn out to be flawed, or total garbage. But I would be optimistic if I were you.
word from the beta is that it is everything that vista should have been. running smoother, using less system resources, less redundant security problems etc. they've been much more open about windows 7 than they have with vista. that alone makes me think that 7 will be a good thing happening.
 

Rath709

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Is 7 likely to be able to cope with older games that Vista could not, even in compatibility mode?
 

cleverlymadeup

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Zeeky_Santos said:
Khell_Sennet said:
Nope.

If... IF Windows 7 is the long-awaited replacement for XP, it will still be the typical steaming pile of shit that every Windows is, at least until the first or second revision. When Windows 7 SP2 or the sorts comes out, and Windows 8 is being pushed on us, that is the time to change over. For now, stick to XP and be grateful you don't have Vista. Or if you have Vista, shoot your computer and bury it in the yard, then sprinkle 3.5" floppy discs over the grave to ward off it rising from the dead.
so i assume that you used a mac to post on this gaming centered website. you didn't even give any reasons why windows computers are shit, and considering the nature of this website i would think its safe to say that the people here are smart enough to take care of their computers as that is the number one reason for virus's and breaking computers, poor care taking skills.
ok how about this for bad things

security holes out the wazoo
an api that makes options such as "do no install anything without asking" a suggestion
poor memory usage
non-standards compliance, using a different system and calling it a standard is not standards compliance
dll hell, there is no one at microsoft who can tell you what all the dlls in windows\system32 do and there's no way to find out either
a need for more cpu and more ram each and every time they upgrade the os

there's tons of reasons not to use windows. if i could run linux for everything i would as it's way more secure and runs a lot better
 

SoonerMatt

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Cid SilverWing said:
DO NOT even think about upgrading to Windows 7. Not even Vista. Stick to Windows XP if that's what you got now. Trust me.
XP is probably the best OS Microsoft has released, but for the long-term you'll have to upgrade from XP eventually.

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/04/windows-xp-mainstream-support-retired-but-no-need-to-worry.ars
 

Halfang

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This thread has now become, oh surprise!, a 4 side battle batween:
1: windows xp users
2: macs
3: linux
4: windows 7

Been using w7 x64 for about 2 weeks now, and I haven't had any major problems. The only one I've found is about the screen diming (light dims after a while of not using it), that basically doesn't turn back on to full power. Fixed it by disabling screen dimming (oh dear, oh dear!)

Before that I had a xp32 build that was 2 year-old. I had to reinstall, so why not upgrade?

I'm not saying xp is bad. XP was good for the year 2000. Computers got better, with more ram (currently running on 4gb, upgraded recently from 1gb in the laptop), and more processor power. Of course, if you compare what you need to run xp and what you need to run w7 (not saying windows vista), yes, there is an increase, but the average computer is going to be better than the average computer from when xp came out.
 

Joeshie

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I've been using Vista since it was released, have had less crashes than I did with XP, zero compatibility errors, and has pretty much been much more enjoyable than my overall time with XP was.

I'll probably be picking up Windows 7 when it comes out.
 

frank220

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I'm waiting for it so I could build a gaming PC. Look at it this way, it's not Vista :)
 

Nmil-ek

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Bah whats with all the windows knocking they make grea...

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