Is witcher 3 has worst combat ever?

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BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
According to metacritic they don't, what do you have to say about that?
My friend, metacritic doesnot matter. its a popularity contest. by that logic COD is one of the best shooter ever.
 

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B-Cell said:
BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
According to metacritic they don't, what do you have to say about that?
My friend, metacritic doesnot matter. its a popularity contest. by that logic COD is one of the best shooter ever.
Metacritic doesn't matter? No it doesn't, not even if you only count metascore, check user reviews as well.

Black-Cell said:
7-8 ratings are not mediocre reivews. most of best games recieve that kind of reviews from critics
also the devision got mediocre reviews so far. ranging from 6 to 7.
Oh right, reviews only matters when it's in your favor.
 

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B-Cell said:
Shadow warrior sword play could teach witcher 3 how to do a good combat.
You mean just keep clicking the attack button until you win? Boo, how boring. Worst combat ever.
 

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I'm not sure how many games you've played, But the Witcher 3 has the best combat in the series, and while not being amazing is perfectly serviceable and satisfying. Looking in my "Tat" category in my steam library I can find plethora of games that have worse combat by such a significant degree that it blows my mind that anyone would be quite so hyperbolic as to describe it as the "worst combat ever".

I've been smacked by mods for accusing other forum posters of being trolls before, so I won't do that, I'll simply say that the comments on the youtube video linked reference the creator linking the video on 4chan which MIGHT suggest a certain proclivity to the provocative.
 

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Bah.
Witcher 3's combat was functional at worst and heart-pounding at best. What's the real difference between Witcher 3's combat and Dark Souls in terms of pure mechanics? Both games play with the same mechanics: dodge your enemy when it attacks, attack while said enemy is recovering, block/parry judiciously. Rinse and repeat. So why aren't there dozens of threads decrying Dark Souls' combat as being abject shit?
At least TW3 shakes up the formula by allowing players to use cool bombs and combat magic.
... You realize the soul franchise has bomb and magic too? It actually has way more magic than W3 (not hard since it only has 10). Purely on the melee side, the soul franchise has way way way more attack variety, with different weapon having different moves, speed and reach. It also has stamina which prevent spam (of both attack and dodge) which create a tons of depth since you have to manage resource. Aside from that, taking potion actually take in game time so you have to be smart about when to use them rather than just opening the menu. The soul franchise also has backstab, a more in depth leveling system, element weakness/resistance, poise, shield and so on.

There not even on the same plane of existence, it's like saying a bicycle and a Ferrari are the same things because they both have wheels. Comment like these really make it seem like W3 is getting praise from people who just usually play point-and-click game and its just there first experience of action gameplay.
 

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B-Cell said:
BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
According to metacritic they don't, what do you have to say about that?
My friend, metacritic doesnot matter. its a popularity contest. by that logic COD is one of the best shooter ever.
MetaCritic Scores:

CoD: Advanced Warfare - 5.7
CoD: Black Ops 3 - 4.6
CoD: Modern Warfare 3 - 3.4
CoD: Black Ops 2 - 4.8
CoD: Modern Warfare 2 - 6.2
CoD: Ghost - 3.6

CoD4: Modern Warfare - 8.4
Halo: Combat Evolved - 8.6
Half-Life 2 - 9.2

So... ok. CoD is not the best shooter ever by MetaCritic standards.

But, I get your point. Metacritic is pointless, so B-Cell's opinions automatically become objective truths.
 

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Meiam said:
Silverbeard said:
Bah.
Witcher 3's combat was functional at worst and heart-pounding at best. What's the real difference between Witcher 3's combat and Dark Souls in terms of pure mechanics? Both games play with the same mechanics: dodge your enemy when it attacks, attack while said enemy is recovering, block/parry judiciously. Rinse and repeat. So why aren't there dozens of threads decrying Dark Souls' combat as being abject shit?
At least TW3 shakes up the formula by allowing players to use cool bombs and combat magic.
... You realize the soul franchise has bomb and magic too? It actually has way more magic than W3 (not hard since it only has 10). Purely on the melee side, the soul franchise has way way way more attack variety, with different weapon having different moves, speed and reach. It also has stamina which prevent spam (of both attack and dodge) which create a tons of depth since you have to manage resource. Aside from that, taking potion actually take in game time so you have to be smart about when to use them rather than just opening the menu. The soul franchise also has backstab, a more in depth leveling system, element weakness/resistance, poise, shield and so on.

There not even on the same plane of existence, it's like saying a bicycle and a Ferrari are the same things because they both have wheels. Comment like these really make it seem like W3 is getting praise from people who just usually play point-and-click game and its just there first experience of action gameplay.
Sure I do- just like TW 3. Bombs and magic are optional paths in both games. Extra tactical options. They're not necessary in either game but they do make combat easier and in some fights mean the difference between victory and defeat. TW 3 has stamina management and backstabbing too. Doesn't change the fact that people seem to arbitrarily think that Dark Souls has better combat than TW3 when they're both fundamentally the same.
Comments like these really make it seem like W3 is getting bashed by people who usually just watch gameplay videos on Youtube and have no experience with action gameplay.
 

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Its the best combat in the Witcher series, so automatically this means that the first two games had worse combat (seriuosly combat in witcher 1 was bad)

Rip Van Rabbit said:
Assassin's Creed, the go-to-example for tedious combat, now shines like diamond in sun.
im one of those crazy people that actually like assassin's creed combat, including the first game. I can see why people may not like it though, once you get the timing right you can pretty much slaughter anyone with a hidden blade and dance circles around them.
 

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Strazdas said:
Rip Van Rabbit said:
Assassin's Creed, the go-to-example for tedious combat, now shines like diamond in sun.
im one of those crazy people that actually like assassin's creed combat, including the first game. I can see why people may not like it though, once you get the timing right you can pretty much slaughter anyone with a hidden blade and dance circles around them.
That's cool. :)
I was just referencing (In a matching hyperbolic fashion) the OP's use of Assassin's Creed as an example in his post. [small](Note to self: Use pink sarcasm text in the future)[/small]

If anything, I do like the emphasis on timing, I would just want a greater sense of punishment in order to raise the stakes.


Back when the first Assassin's Creed was released, I remember having fond memories of using the hidden blade as my primary weapon. It mainly consisted of getting the timing juuuuuust right on every enemy attack in order to counter for an insta-kill. It was very satisfying to walk away from a pile of corpses knowing that I inflicted that with something strapped to my wrist. Good times.
 

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Anyone who thinks any game before the year 2000 had the worst combat ever was either too young or has a short memory.
 

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B-Cell said:
In last 8 years??!!

Stalker, Crysis, Deus Ex HR, witcher 2, dishonored, Metro, shadow warrior etc completely OWN this game in every single way.
Yeah, gotta disagree.
Stalker, haven't played.
Crysis... Its good, but Witcher 3 is better.
Deus Ex HR: Just replayed it. Clunky and poor controls are the least of its issues, and its boss fights are absolute jokes thematically and in gameplay. Its a mediocre game at best.
Witcher 2: I consider slightly below 3. Its combat had its own version of attack attack quen, and it was attack attack aard. Only difference was its schizophrenic difficulty curve, poorly designed menus, and less navigable worldspace [More parkour style stuff was an amazing addition, not talking about level sizes as fixed size levels have their own purpose and charm IMO]
Dishonored: Utter shit. Clunky to play, punished you for playing the 'fun' way that let you use all your abilities and kill people, lack of autosave, and just all round meh. One of the worse games to have come out recently IMO.
Metro: Pretty good, but its not as good as Witcher 3.

I mean, they may be your list of favourite games but... Nah, Witcher 3 beats them all. Hell, IMO it beats Dishonoured, Deus Ex and Witcher 2 on combat alone, whereas Crysis and Metro are more a to-taste thing.
 

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B-Cell said:
Charcharo said:
Shadow Warrior or the rest.
Shadow warrior sword play could teach witcher 3 how to do a good combat.
I confoosed my frend. In wut way culd these gameplays:

...tranzlaite too this ? :

Bacuz if I imagine shadow warrior swordplay take place in therd persun, it seeem as if it wuld b simplify greatly due to the lack off doj, pahree, and simplicity uv enemies movesmint. Are yoo saying that yu fynd the Witcher 3 combat to complex and that yoo liek simplecity of the shadows warrior combat? I thank that would herrt the balince of the Witcher 3 combat and the nuances off how it combine with games spells. What do you think?

All so, feel free to riplace the video in you orijinal post with the witcher kombat video above my friend. I know you want fare discussion and aren't try to flame fans of witcher 3 and cuz truble because I know you respect other people's opinions so the above video wuld srve as a better example of witcher 3's combat, giving this thread's discussion more fare start don't you think my dearest and loveliest frend?

Or chanje OP tytle to "Iz this youtube player werst at witcher combats ever?" That more akurate my friend.
 

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ZombieProof said:
I confoosed my frend. In wut way culd these gameplays:

...tranzlaite too this ? :

Bacuz if I imagine shadow warrior swordplay take place in therd persun, it seeem as if it wuld b simplify greatly due to the lack off doj, pahree, and simplicity uv enemies movesmint. Are yoo saying that yu fynd the Witcher 3 combat to complex and that yoo liek simplecity of the shadows warrior combat? I thank that would herrt the balince of the Witcher 3 combat and the nuances off how it combine with games spells. What do you think?

All so, feel free to riplace the video in you orijinal post with the witcher kombat video above my friend. I know you want fare discussion and aren't try to flame fans of witcher 3 and cuz truble because I know you respect other people's opinions so the above video wuld srve as a better example of witcher 3's combat, giving this thread's discussion more fare start don't you think my dearest and loveliest frend?

Or chanje OP tytle to "Iz this youtube player werst at witcher combats ever?" That more akurate my friend.
Can somebody translate to English please? I speak only mortal tongues.
 

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Poor grammar in the title and body that makes english look like OP's second language. Hyperbolic and controversial statements. A link to a video of a guy complaining about the lack of lock on... because he didn't press the lock on button.

*sigh*


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