Is Yahtzee a noob?

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Don Savik said:
He seems to prefer the oldschool games. He said Bioshock was tripe because it wasn't as cool as System Shock -___- lolwut. Systemshock set it up, but its story and gameplay was horrible in comparison. And he brings up Theif every third review. The only thing he's good for is a good laugh, and pointing out mistakes that game companies make. I don't take his word that seriously.

You want a funny brit who is also GOOD at games and reviews and covers everything from the big name to the indie? Just watch Totalbiscuit, that man is miles ahead of Yatzhee when it comes to presentation.
He loved bioshock actually
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Newb = new player

Noob = ignorant player, somebody who blames others/the game for their lack of skill and/or uses game tactics that others frown upon, i.e., noobtubing.
This.

As for Yahtzee, I have no idea, I've never played a game with him.
 

Axyun

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I wouldn't say he is a noob. He's more of a gaming hipster. he swears the stuff he likes is better than the stuff you like and dismisses popular opinion as quickly as the fanboys he condemns.

Two sides of the same hyperbole coin. Hell of a funny bastard though.

Regarding his personal tastes, it's obvious he plays for the story and atmosphere, and isn't into competitive gaming. I love a good story myself but it's nice to dish out the smack from time to time.

And no, not that kind of smack.
 

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I think it's just he's got one week maybe less to play a a game to reviewer standard, and little patience for something like demon souls, which relys on the player base to want to have a drawn out challenge. Also he mentioned in an Extra Punctuation once that it's not that he minds not winning in multiplayer, it's just that he hates losing, and people are different on multiplayer. Hell, he praises TF2 all the time, and that is multiplayer only, it's just that it's a different brand of multiplayer compared to Cod or Halo
 

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Nomanslander said:
So what's the point of asking what if Yahzee's a noob? Well the REVIEWS he does for the games he has difficulty with matter. He trashed Demon's Souls for being hard, he never even attempts to objectively look into MP heavy games. In the end it really doesn't matter if he is a noob or not since he still makes really good observation into games now and then, but still. Is he?

=P
Here's your error,you think he is doing reviews. You listen to him for some sane game bashing and vulgar comedy,he never reviewed a game and most of the times he straight forward gives false informations about some games.Beside this he is a very known and proclaimed Valve fanboi,and I don't mean it in the good way(if there's a good way to be a fanboi anyway).

Now if you have all this things clear,and you should if you watched more than 10 episodes you'd know to watch it for the fun explicit comedy he gives(most of the times anyway not always).
 

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Noob wouldn't be the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Yahtzee. He plays games for a living so he certainly knows his stuff.

Of course knowledge doesn't neccesarily equate to skill. That's something you have to work at. And I'm not sure if Yahtzee has enough time to become skilled at every single game he reviews.
 

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Mrmac23 said:
The reason he hated Demon's Souls is because it was too hard. I don't mean "challenging" "fun" hard, i mean "ball-crushingly" hard. And from what i've heard, Dark Souls actively goes out of it's way to destroy your self worth and piss on you. I think i'm asking the same question as he would when i ask how the fuck anyone likes this sort of game. The reason I Wanna Be The Guy was so popular was because it was taking the piss out of difficulty by making everything nonsensically insane. Dark Souls is I Wanna Be The Guy when trying to take itself seriously. Read: annoying as shit.
Here are some reasons:
1) Survival horror approach. Demon's/Dark Souls are the only true survival horror games of the last 5 years.
2) Unmatched atmosphere. No grimdark bullshit, but actual atmosphere that draws the players in and affects their own mood significantly even after they turn off the game.
3) Amazing level design. Like, seriously, once you finish any world, if you sit down and think of what you've just been through your brain hurts.
4) Great combat system and weapon physics. You know how in action RPG's you click and shit dies? Yeah, that's not what you do in DS. You have to outsmart and outmanouever every single enemy and pick the proper places and ways to fight.
5) The game is never unfair and the controls feel satisfying. You die because you fuck up, and you know you fucked up before you die.
6) Overcoming a challenge is fun, if you are patient and careful. We've forgotten all about that in recent years.
7) Cool unique online features that benefit and complete but never undermine the single player experience, which is the core of the game.
 

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I don't believe he is, though it doesn't matter either way. What I do find odd is how he often picks the lowest difficulty available when playing certain games and then criticizes the low difficulty. I'm still not sure why he keeps doing that.

Anyway, it's not like I view him as a game reviewer. I just watch his reviews for fun and to see what kind of flaws the games he reviews MIGHT have, so whether he's a "noob" (hate the word) is irrelevant to me.
 

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Carnagath said:
Here are some reasons:
-snip-
...Now i want to get Dark Souls. It would really had helped if anyone in the dozen threads on various i'd seen about the game talked about something other than how many controllers they expended on a certain area.
 

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Mrmac23 said:
The reason he hated Demon's Souls is because it was too hard. I don't mean "challenging" "fun" hard, i mean "ball-crushingly" hard. And from what i've heard, Dark Souls actively goes out of it's way to destroy your self worth and piss on you. I think i'm asking the same question as he would when i ask how the fuck anyone likes this sort of game. The reason I Wanna Be The Guy was so popular was because it was taking the piss out of difficulty by making everything nonsensically insane. Dark Souls is I Wanna Be The Guy when trying to take itself seriously. Read: annoying as shit.
They're not even remotely close to the same league.

I Wanna Be The Guy is purely based around cheap trial and error, which you couldn't possibly know how to avoid until you memorize the entire thing.

Demon's/Dark Souls just punish you for making bad tactical decisions. If you leave your character's defenses exposed at the wrong time, you pay for it.

That's really what it comes down to. Don't even compare those games, that's absolutely insulting.

I enjoy a game which expects me to learn how to play, and play WELL. Why is that such a horrible concept? I have no problem being expect to be good at a game, if anything, I vastly prefer it. Unlike most people, I have no problem with dying, the important detail though is "Did I die because the game is cheap or did I die because I did something stupid?" If it's my fault, it doesn't even phase me and I look forward to trying again and correcting that mistake.

The biggest important distinction here is that the Souls games are FAIR, you die because you did something stupid, not because the game gets enjoyment out of pissing you off.

Outside of that, it has extremely robust character building options to the extent that playing different styles feel very, very different, and it's extremely well varied in both levels, bosses and enemies, so it rarely gets repetitive unless you die a whole bunch of times for being impatient/irresponsible.
 

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You have to take into account that he has about a week to play a game and come up with a review on it, every single week.
I don't know how he works, but I can't imagine he plays the game every waking hour, or even half of his waking hours, in a week. I like to think that he gets as far as he can, or as far as he wants to get.
If the game has a fairly linear difficulty curve, and engaging story, I like to imagine he'll get as far as he can get.
But if the game has a flaw or doesn't get better, then he'll get as far as he wants to get. If the game doesn't get better, he can pretty much just say in his review "the game gets worst past this point".

But thats all kind of off topic.

As others have said:
Newb: New to a game, and/or not very familiar/good at it.
Noob: Bad player, opposite of pro, the people that bring down a team.

So no, Yahtzee is not a noob. He may be a newb because he has to play a new game every week, but only in regards to those games. I have never seen the guy play games, so I can't even say if he is a newb in that sense. Unless he plays a game that has elements he has never encountered before, skill-sets he acquired in other games carry over to that game (like how FPS skills carry over between FPS).
 

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Nomanslander said:
First off before people make a fuss let me explain my definition of noob. It doesn't mean a casual player, it just anyone that either is new to a game or isn't very good at it. Personally I'm a complete RTS noob, I've played it, I suck at it, oh whew is me, let's move on.

Anyways, after wondering about what game he should be reviewing come this Wednesday, I thought of Dark Souls which honestly I think is one of the best games I've played in a lonnnnggg time. I haven't been this enthralled and yet horrified (by how sheer difficult and nerve wrecking the game is) by a video games since I was 14 played Ghouls and Ghosts. But remembering how Yahtzee reacted towards Demon's Souls, it got me thinking. Right now I'm at Nito which is pretty far in Dark Souls, I ain't a gaming God, but I'm pretty sure Yahtzee couldn't even get that far (Capra Demon is far as he'd get I bet).

So after thinking about a lot of his reviews, how he can't stand MP, and how gameplay just doesn't seem to matter to him. Yahtzee from what I've understood is more into narrative and doing different things in games. Doesn't seem to have much interest in the competitive side. For instance the other example I brought up, he doesn't like MP. Now I know not everyone likes MP, and just because you don't doesn't make you a noob, but sucking at it is one reason a lot of people don't like MP.

So what's the point of asking what if Yahzee's a noob? Well the reviews he does for the games he has difficulty with matter. He trashed Demon's Souls for being hard, he never even attempts to objectively look into MP heavy games. In the end it really doesn't matter if he is a noob or not since he still makes really good observation into games now and then, but still. Is he?

=P
In the case of Demon Souls and other games Yahtzee has trashed without finishing is because of a simple thing... His own damn life. Look in your case, you fail in Demon's souls or in Dark Souls and you just start over. If you get killed you simply have a laugh and start over... Yahtzee has a schedule to adhere to. I imagine you have a job and can relate to, but he has plenty of shit going around.

He has a bar, he writes columns and what you do in you free time (play video games) he does as a job in a week (and who knows what else he has on his platter... But I'm betting an active social life). He didn't like Demon's Souls because he didn't get the point of the game humiliating you without giving you a chance. And by that I mean, the game gets real good until you grasp the essentials and that can take a long time depending on how much time you get to play games.

Besides he's pretty subjective... I expect him to trash talk any game...
(I'm thinking his next game will be Batman Arkham City since it showed for a brief moment in last week's vid.) This game is universally loved (it seems) but I'm pretty sure he is going to critize the game.

Anyhow, consider he's been playing since his teens or even before, calling him a noob is pretty non-sensical.
 

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Dunno really.

He seems decent, but, I was rather disappointed by his lack of completion of the tutorial of Monster Hunter Tri and yet still releasing a review of it.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
I don't think you're in a position to be judging anyone's gaming ability if you've never seen them play.

Newb = new player

Noob = ignorant player, somebody who blames others/the game for their lack of skill and/or uses game tactics that others frown upon, i.e., noobtubing.
ninja'd....yeah thats how newb/noob is described.
 

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Mozza444 said:
I'm sure he doesn't have the time to play that far into games... he reviews something ONCE A WEEK.
Not so much reflecting on Yahtzee, but games as a whole....

If you're a music reviewer, you probably have 40-60 minutes of music to listen to per review. CDs max at about 80, and few are close. You can listen to a CD multiple times pretty easily to critique it.

If you're a movie critic, you're probably going to be seeing a lot of 90 minute movies. Depending on the scenario, you may not have the opportunity to re-watch, but you scan still get the complete experience in 90 minutes. Double that for really long movies.

If you're a book critic...Well, okay, this one varies quite a bit. It depends on the genre and such.

If you're a game critic, even short games tend to run four hours, and that's more or less the core experience. If you factor in side-quests, bonuses and multiplayer, all things gamers expect to hear about, you could be talking about tons of material even if the basic game is short. Moreso, it's hard to miss a chapter of a book or a track on a CD. Even hidden tracks are fairly obvious these days. Andif you're watching a film in a theatre, you're not delving into bonus features, and even if you are watching on disc, most reviewers aren't expected to delve into all the content.

It's pretty much only games where you're expected to have put this much commitment into a single review. People want you to address everything, from the main plot to side missions, to collectables to online to whatever else. Bonus modes, even.

Always amazes me people expect frequent, detailed, complete reviews on such a regular basis. Not just Yahtzee, but reviewers in general. If it takes too long to get a review to press, you're snubbing the game (even if it gets a good score). If it's incomplete, you suck as a gamer, didn't care, etc.

It's totally lose-lose.
 

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I'm pretty sure Yahtzee didn't like demon'sssssss ssssssouls because he wasn't having fun.

That's why I don't like some games: because they aren't fun.
 

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Noob? Probably not. ADHD stricken gamer? Definitely.

But he's hilarious so I don't give a fuck.

I think, while he may not be Jesus, he's competent when games are involved. He doesn't have a month or even a few weeks to play most games. When you're reviewing, you have a very limited time period to work with.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
I don't think you're in a position to be judging anyone's gaming ability if you've never seen them play.

Newb = new player

Noob = ignorant player, somebody who blames others/the game for their lack of skill and/or uses game tactics that others frown upon, i.e., noobtubing.
Noob is also used as a slang to try and insult or scare off new players by using it to have an excuse to be a dick towards them. Just saying.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Newb = new player

Noob = ignorant player, somebody who blames others/the game for their lack of skill and/or uses game tactics that others frown upon, i.e., noobtubing.
this.

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SecretNegative said:
I'd like to quote something he said in his "Mailbag Showdown" about this issue:

"And the accusation of me being bad at games is something I've fielded before, and while it's true that I've never beaten the Luigi-purple-coin challenge I'd like to think I review for everyone, and considering I've been gaming for most of my life, most averegade people are going to be even worse than me, and that's a scary thought."
this as well.

pretty sure its all an act though, since he hates on almost every game throw his way. also, he's stated he has connectivity issues, be it dissconneting or just no one being on, so really not worth while to review the MP bits. BUT, i think he is right in that a game should be able to stand on single player alone
 

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Nomanslander said:
First off before people make a fuss let me explain my definition of noob. It doesn't mean a casual player, it just anyone that either is new to a game or isn't very good at it. Personally I'm a complete RTS noob, I've played it, I suck at it, oh whew is me, let's move on.

Anyways, after wondering about what game he should be reviewing come this Wednesday, I thought of Dark Souls which honestly I think is one of the best games I've played in a lonnnnggg time. I haven't been this enthralled and yet horrified (by how sheer difficult and nerve wrecking the game is) by a video games since I was 14 played Ghouls and Ghosts. But remembering how Yahtzee reacted towards Demon's Souls, it got me thinking. Right now I'm at Nito which is pretty far in Dark Souls, I ain't a gaming God, but I'm pretty sure Yahtzee couldn't even get that far (Capra Demon is far as he'd get I bet).

So after thinking about a lot of his reviews, how he can't stand MP, and how gameplay just doesn't seem to matter to him. Yahtzee from what I've understood is more into narrative and doing different things in games. Doesn't seem to have much interest in the competitive side. For instance the other example I brought up, he doesn't like MP. Now I know not everyone likes MP, and just because you don't doesn't make you a noob, but sucking at it is one reason a lot of people don't like MP.

So what's the point of asking what if Yahzee's a noob? Well the reviews he does for the games he has difficulty with matter. He trashed Demon's Souls for being hard, he never even attempts to objectively look into MP heavy games. In the end it really doesn't matter if he is a noob or not since he still makes really good observation into games now and then, but still. Is he?

=P

Its not that. It's just that I'm so amazing at video games I easily breeze though the parts he has difficulty with. :p

Also, I agree with Yahtzee's stance that games should be able to stand on their own for their single player campaign alone (if they have one), rather than giving a game concessions for having a strong multi-player aspect.