Is youtube (and/or the internet) basically atheist land?

[Ice Car]

I suppose. Religion is often bashed on some forums I go to, and always happens on youtube. a majority are just trolls and asshats though. Anonymity is a *****... I myself am an atheist, but I don't go and comment on youtube videos or in topics and make an ass out of myself by forcing my views or scientific crap on people.

 

[Player 2]

No, there are some sites on the internet that are religious, however sites catering to a teen audience tend not to be.

 

[hem dazon 90]

Even on The Escapist, supposedly the shining beacon of maturity and responsibility in the endless sea of shit that is the internet,

Allah knows that hasn't been the case in a while.

I still like this place though.

 

[Whitenail]

Even on The Escapist, supposedly the shining beacon of maturity and responsibility in the endless sea of shit that is the internet,

Allah knows that hasn't been the case in a while.

I still like this place though.

Cool, a fellow member of an Abrahamic (I'm sure I'm saying that wrong) religion.

Yeah, I remember the days when that was the one tagline for the site that could compete with "Stay out of the basement", but the hipster kids for which this site has become a nesting ground had to crap over everything. But yeah, it's still a good site, but I wouldn't mind a nice, silly thread every now and then to keep the entertainment up around here.

 

[hem dazon 90]

Even on The Escapist, supposedly the shining beacon of maturity and responsibility in the endless sea of shit that is the internet,

Allah knows that hasn't been the case in a while.

I still like this place though.

Cool, a fellow member of an Abrahamic (I'm sure I'm saying that wrong) religion.

Yeah, I remember the days when that was the one tagline for the site that could compete with "Stay out of the basement", but the hipster kids for which this site has become a nesting ground had to crap over everything. But yeah, it's still a good site, but I wouldn't mind a nice, silly thread every now and then to keep the entertainment up around here.

Nah your saying it right. And most of it has to do with Moviebob and ZP. Once they end the site will get better (not that I hate ZP)

 

[[.redacted]]

I'm probably one of the offenders here, though not quite in the sense you're describing.

I wouldn't, say, go and downvote that video, nor would I spew hatred when I even see christian references; I do, however, argue the atheist/humanist point whenever and wherever I can - it's something I feel compelled to do.

And it's not the anonymity, as I do so in real life to an even greater extent =P

 

[Dexiro]

Youtube is full to the brim with complete idiots, and a lot of those are athiests or christians.

I'd never expect a Youtube athiest to throw up an intelligent argument, and it's common practice for christians to just throw a bible in your face, so it's really just a pointless flamewar that's not worth getting into.

 

[s0denone]

I take offense at your thread, your reasoning and most certainly the video you linked.

It is a bunch of trite bullshit.

I don't believe in the indoctrination of children, do you?
Sure, you could say the film is made for people who are already Christian.
Would you say it is targeted at adults or children? Children.
Okay, so in a sense, the film helps a children stay christian?

Is that inherently a bad thing? You know... From my point of view, it is.
Feel free to disagree, but I see absolutely nothing good about religion - rather the exact opposite.

Is that the debate this thread is meant for? I have absolutely no clue. To me it seems to ask a very stupid question: "Hai guys, did u realis dat tere is many stupid people on interweb dat say silly, offensive and downright moronic things? sometimes dey also downvote videos about religion?"
And then a massive circle-jerk ensues, where everyone is agreeing with everyone.

What kind of thread... What!? What is this!?
I mean, it kind of is like Barry Burton discovering blood. The question he asks has such an extremely obvious answer, that the question need not be asked at all.

 

[Mj0ln1r]

I love religion and i want to start my own someday in the future. Nothing better than being worshiped by a millions mindless followers.

 

[Whitenail]

Well, at least for Catholics the people are right with their assessment that Catholics are "ignorant" and "stupid", because of "Transubstantiation", which is the whole "This is my body, this is my blood" thing by jesus. Yes, the Catholic church believes the white cracker you eat at the service ACTUALLY turns into jesus's flesh in your mouth!

Anyone who is Catholic has to believe that! And of course believing in the resurrection of Jesus is also "ignorant" and "stupid".

Spoiler: I feel like this is appropriate, and that it speaks for me and the others in your post

So I suppose, by the logic of your post, I am being called directly ignorant and stupid on both accounts because of two beliefs I uphold (at least one of which is substantially metaphorical...possibly both, the point is the last supper didn't involve Jesus cutting off hunks of his body and pouring out his blood his cannablistic disciples could eat, it symbolised the passing of the torch onto them after having gone through all he had taught them because he knew he was going to be killed soon. And is it really so implausible that Jesus was ressurected, if you don't believe he was the son of God and rose in accordance with scripture plenty of people have gone through shit worse than stabbing and crucifixion to be presumed dead before "returning to life", that's why modern medicine runs quite a number of checks on dead bodies to see if they're truly dead before burial). Let's see now, low-post count, childish insults, bagging out people just for saying "Yes I'm part of a religion"...obvious troll is obvious.

 

[PurplePlatypus]

You know, I expected a little bit more hate in the comments from your post but it?s, well its people just discussing things really. It?s pretty civil, apart from the odd comment that doesn?t really promote discussion.

Or are you trying to argue it?s hateful to question and atheists should stay away even though it?s a public video and the comments are open to everyone. I mean the person who uploaded the video could quite easily turn off the comments or even just go in and get rid of the comments they don?t like. The video owner doesn?t have a problem with the comments being there so I?m not sure why you should.

 

[Nieroshai]

i am an agnostic who will probably end up an atheist after i finish reading some of richard dawkins books, i think that people should troll that video you posted but only because it is posted on YOUTUBE where lots of PEOPLE OF OTHER FAITHS look at videos(i dont beleive in public preaching)

Richard Dawkins made me a Christian, I kid you not. But no two people are alike. Although, calling for an innocent video to be trolled as a matter of principle is a bit unnecessary. Which is more important, that public preaching be suppressed in the name of those who don't want to hear it(and on the web can EASILY never see it unless they LOOK for it) or the right for an individual to publicly express their beliefs? Atheism is a belief system, and given unconditional public leeway. Is it not a matter of human rights that all beliefs be given the freedoms of the most free belief system?


To OP: Anonymity breeds assholes, and religion as a whole is generally told "you can have your faith at home but I don't want to even see it in public." Forget pushing religion, which I never do, I'm talking about a guy in my class flipping out because my binder has a verse number on it. Not a verse, a verse number. (book)XX:XX(ver) format. In small print. On the inside. This is an extreme example, but I can safely say it's rare to find anyone who's tolerant of beliefs other than their own. I can't recall the last time someone was called a bigot for quoting Nietzsche.

 

[Nieroshai]

Spoiler: snip

That is not enough, because:

1) ......

Sorry, but you shutting up is not enough.

And then there is this: http://img129.imageshack.us/i/1213119238104yy9.jpg/

Because these faults are totally inherent to religion, rather than the United States.

Oh wait.

You missed my point. I just listed privileges that religious institutions have even today all over the world, not just america no, germany, britain and so on(!!!), which is a reason why "live and let live" is not enough when it comes to religions.

... I'm a Mormon (gasp!) youth (that "youth" word means teenager/child, for those of you with beef for brains), ... From what I've seen, they tend to be more accepting to other/any religions,...

What the mormons did to the boy scouts of america:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceOb1-O8rPc

thomas s monson: "I like the way the church has coordinated and fully correlated the activities of the young with the instruction we provide in the aaronic priesthood. So that it is one boy and one troop, one church, and one program."

Oh, and the boy scout discriminates against atheists and homosexuals.

As a Catholic (we're hated by the WBC as well as everyone else, you get used to people's ignorance) I've noticed that. Even on The Escapist ... get called the usual names: ... "Ignorant", "Stupid" ....

Well, at least for Catholics the people are right with their assessment that Catholics are "ignorant" and "stupid", because of "Transubstantiation", which is the whole "This is my body, this is my blood" thing by jesus. Yes, the Catholic church believes the white cracker you eat at the service ACTUALLY turns into jesus's flesh in your mouth!

Anyone who is Catholic has to believe that! And of course believing in the resurrection of jesus is also "ignorant" and "stupid".

You probably thought that link was pretty good but not to be offensive, I closed it when I read the second panel, all it seemed like to me was someone spewing anti-religious propaganda even if he says he wasn't. Although you did raise some pretty good arguments, people like religion, religion keeps people safe and happy with their lives and no one has any right to go and take that away from them.

First of all: The comic actually presents reasons why religious people are stupid. It is not one of the occasions where the reply to "Why do you think they are stupid?" is "Just because." But then again you fullfil exactly what Richard Dawkins said about the protest against the "Atheist Bus Campaign" in Britain: "Of course they are offended. That is all they've got. They have no decent arguments and so on..." Or something like that.

Second: Religion doesn`t keep you safe. Religion does not stop you from dying from a gun wound. Medical science does, doctors do! Besides there are several children(!!) that died because the parents thought praying was enough to heal the chield. And the parents could not be prosecuted because the laws allowed it!!! Another privilege for religion.

Third: Any lie you tell yourself can make you happy. But that is just a personal believe and has little to do with religion. No, religions try to change laws to follow their ideas of "morality" even if it causes death and suffering or takes away the freedom of people: see Blasphemy laws and free Speech. Religions want exemption from laws and privileges for their members. Why are a lot of religious people so up in arms against "gay marriage"? Would they be so angry about it without their religion? So we see, "making people happy, giving them comfort" is not the reason why religion primarily exist.

And the happiest country in the world is also the least religious one.

Besides do you need a church to believe something to be happy? Do you need a priest to tell you what to believe to be happy? That is incredible immature.

And another thing did you see the rose petals for that bodyguard that killed a politician because he was against the blasphemy laws. A lot of people are happy now in that country, because others are forbidden to say something mean against bout the bullshit they believe in.

Richard Dawkins: "If you say the mildest thing against religion you are immediately strident." You are so right, Mr. Dawkins.

Most of your arguments seem solidly based on the concept that no one will ever be able to argue against your position with any modicum of intelligence. This is arrogant, as is much of Dawkins's writings.
The transformation of the Communion elements? Anyone who has read the scriptures out of free will would realize that is a metaphor.
Belief in resurrection foolish? Only if resurrection is impossible, which is only if Jesus was not divine, which is only if there is no such thing as the divine, which science cannot prove. Claiming that something does not exist simply because it is unobservable is questionable. That position would destroy all of quantum physics for starters. The only possible proof of divine existence is divine intervention, which one would claim there is no proof of. Yet anyone who claims to have encountered such a presence is branded a fool at best and insane at worst because of this belief: evidence of the divine does not exist, and I will not accept any evidence because that evidence is impossible.
Religion does not keep one safe from bodily harm because that's not the point of it. Jesus himself told his followers that they would be persecuted and harmed and even killed in his name. That would take divine intervention, and in most religious texts (observences? Records?) incidents of full divine intervention are often cataclysmic. God does not show himself because when he showed himself to, say, Moses, the man glowed painfully bright(if I remember correctly) and had to wear a veil, showing that the presence of a being that powerful in any form but an avatar(Christ, Vishnu's bodies, etc) would not go over well with us fragile natives.
Also, you talk as if we religious are actively persecuting you. How is this so when we often are not permitted by our own governments to practice our religion in public or publicly ridiculed for doing so?
I don't believe in God to be happy. I believe in God because I have not seen adequate proof such being cannot exist and does not exist. Before you retort, there is so much that we do not know, and currently do not have the technology to observe.
I know I cannot sway you, and do not mean to. However, I mean to prove we are not all based in blind faith and clinging to a security blanket. To the contrary, I would feel much different if I could truly believe my life had no consequence beyond my current experiences and chemicals in my brain. I seek evidence, and question automatic assumptions wherever I find them. Of course you could ask me then why I accept at face value an ancient Jewish text. But I've held you long enough and am too sleepy to stop and explain how archaeology has coonfirmed many of the events in the Old Testament as well as other pieces of date. But again, I aim not to sway you but to show you my faith is not blind.

 

[Purple Shrimp]

why are atheists so frequently really rude about their beliefs? i dont get it

 

[Nieroshai]

I can't recall the last time someone was called a bigot for quoting Nietzsche.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch#The_.C3.9Cbermensch_and_the_Nazis

I basically agree with you but that's a gloriously bad example.

Point taken, but I couldn't think of any other humanists off the top of my head. Take it as a metaphor dealing with humanist teachings if you will.

 

[The Cheezy One]

Baba Yetu is a great Religious song, enjoyed by many people from all religious viewpoints. Some people, however, say that it would be better if it had less relevance to God.
Mate, it is the Lords Prayer in Swahili. That would be like taking the bread out of an Ankh-Morpork sausage - there's nothing left!

 

[Evil Teddie]

Don't worry about Dawkins people, he may be right with that quote but if you watch some of his programs, he is strident with forcing athiestism on everyone. Telling everyone that you are right and everyone else is wrong does not go well with everyone. Same with the internet, people with opinons that are againist other people got shot down in a flame war. As with quoting Nietzsche, the only true christian died on the cross etc. I can't see way someone whould be called a bigot for that, as it is true as christians follow Christ's example. It is time the Internet learned 'Each to their own'.