It feels kinda weird asking this on a forum, but I need help with this.

[Viking Moose]

Okay, so basically there is this girl I liked awhile ago. I told her how I felt (It was a lot more then like) and she said that she could never see it working between us, but we're still friends.

Fast forward awhile. Both of us have become best friends and I still like her. She tells me she likes one of her friends (who was also my friend). She then tells him that she likes him and he told her that he doesn't like her and even told me that he would never go out with her. I go to my best guy friend's house for the weekend and come back to they are dating. I become really depressed and don't talk to either of them for three weeks. Then one night I was praying (I'm a Christian) and asking God to help me with the whole situation, I fell asleep and had this dream of a girl that I meet that has black hair. We were friends because she ask how my day was. I told her that I had being having a bad week and she gave me a hug and it was the type of hug that she puts her arm around you and your head falls of her shoulder. After I woke up I realized I didn't like her anymore and started talking to them again.

Fast forward yet again, they have broken up because of her parents not really liking him and telling her she couldn't date him. He then becomes kinda jerkish to both her and me. Over the next months her and I become best, best friends. Her and some of our friends were over at my house for a movie and she wanted me to sit by her the whole time. Afterward we were just talking well our friends played rock band. We somehow ended up sharing the same couch cushion. That didn't seem strange because we are amazing friends. When we were talking I noticed that the whole time she was looking at me and had a smile. She also seemed a lot more hugish and touchy and she was kinda leaning on me and hugging me for nothing. While we were talking we got on the subject of what had happened and I don't remember how we got on to this but she told me that she kind of doubts that we well ever go out, but anything can happen. Later we got on to the subject of how my life has being recently. I have had a pretty crappy life lately and I told her and she gave me a hug that was exactly the same as the one in my dream (the only difference is that she has dirty blond hair and the girl in my dream had black, but the black her could be symbolic like a change in some then, like how our friendship has changed). At that moment I realized that I was still in love with her. After she had left my brother came up to me and said it seemed like she may like me.

I'm really terrible at getting hints from girls because I have never had a girlfriend and I need some opinions of weather you think she likes me or not because I don't want to tell her that I like her because I don't want our friendship to change.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

With my limited experience of girl's attentions, I'd have to say that she likes you from that. Nothing to lose by asking her if she does. If she does, girlfriend. If she doesn't, at least you know.

 

[xitel]

It seems to me like she does like you, but I wouldn't rush things. The worst thing you can do is rush. Let her get closer to you if you really like her. It may just be that she is a pretty touchy feely person, and that the hugs didn't mean more than that. There's also the possibility that she is on the rebound. However, in my experience, the fact that you were there for her when she and him broke up may have led to her developing feelings for you that weren't there before. Just stay supportive of her, let her know that you are there, and subtly hint that you are available. Listen to her when she has problems, but even more important is to come to her when you have a problem as well. Show her that you trust her, and show her that she can trust you in turn.

But really, the most important thing to do is take it slow. You may want to ask her now, but don't. That would probably be the worst thing you could do.

 

[QCIC]

The terms "going out" or "dating" always seemed very arbitrary for me, like they are trying to signify an "official" relationship. From what I understand you're pretty much already in a relationship, just at a low level. If you're not comfortable with going to the next level, don't feel obligated to. And if she wants to go further and you're not ready, just tell her.

 

[black lincon]

I'd go with asking her but then again I'm in no better shape with the ladies than you. If I had to guess I'd say she doesn't like you, but I'm cynical so take what I say with a grain of salt. I just don't consider a hug a real symbol of love these days, but once again I didn't see the hug so maybe it was more meaningful than I want to assume.

P.S. Does it seem sad that I imagined the hug in anime form? Maybe watching to much eureka 7 has altered my romance-o-meter.

 

[Good morning blues]

From your description, she clearly likes you. From your story, the best thing to do is forget about her and go date some girls that you have less of an emotional investment in, but since you're clearly not going to do that what you should do is take her on a date (you don't have to call it a date, and doing so is a bad idea, all it needs to be is just you two doing something alone together), wait for an opportune moment, don't puss out, and kiss her. Either she'll like it, or she'll pull away. If it's the former, great, if it's the latter, sucks, move on to the next one, maybe you can still be friends, maybe not.

It sucks, but if you're not willing to risk the friendship, nothing's ever going to happen unless she makes the first move, and sitting around pining for a girl hoping she'll make the first move is a pretty lame existence.

 

[xitel]

I'd go with asking her but then again I'm in no better shape with the ladies than you. If I had to guess I'd say she doesn't like you, but I'm cynical so take what I say with a grain of salt. I just don't consider a hug a real symbol of love these days, but once again I didn't see the hug so maybe it was more meaningful than I want to assume.

P.S. Does it seem sad that I imagined the hug in anime form? Maybe watching to much eureka 7 has altered my romance-o-meter.

Like I said before, don't just come straight out and ask her. As logical as that may sound, it's a horrible idea. It can make her feel extremely rushed, and destroy any chance at a relationship you may have. My advice is to put your feelings out there slowly and subtly and let her make the first move.

 

[Good morning blues]

I'd go with asking her but then again I'm in no better shape with the ladies than you. If I had to guess I'd say she doesn't like you, but I'm cynical so take what I say with a grain of salt. I just don't consider a hug a real symbol of love these days, but once again I didn't see the hug so maybe it was more meaningful than I want to assume.

P.S. Does it seem sad that I imagined the hug in anime form? Maybe watching to much eureka 7 has altered my romance-o-meter.

Like I said before, don't just come straight out and ask her. As logical as that may sound, it's a horrible idea. It can make her feel extremely rushed, and destroy any chance at a relationship you may have. My advice is to put your feelings out there slowly and subtly and let her make the first move.

This is completely right. When people are confronted with something like that out of nowhere, their natural reflex is going to be to say no.

 

[QCIC]

It sucks, but if you're not willing to risk the friendship, nothing's ever going to happen unless she makes the first move, and sitting around pining for a girl hoping she'll make the first move is a pretty lame existence.

If you don't feel comfortable moving your relationship with her ahead, you need to reconsider your situation. A one-sided relationship with only one person doing most of the advancement does not work.

 

[xitel]

It sucks, but if you're not willing to risk the friendship, nothing's ever going to happen unless she makes the first move, and sitting around pining for a girl hoping she'll make the first move is a pretty lame existence.

If you're not comfortable making the first move on any circumstances, obviously you're simply not ready for the next level of a relationship with her. If you want to get more serious with her and you think she wants to get more serious with you, then don't feel afraid to take the next move. A one-sided relationship with only one person doing most of the advancement does not work.

What we're saying isn't that he's not comfortable with making the next move, it's that him making the next move isn't the best idea. Yes, if she goes a while without changing anything, then you should bring it up. But don't just walk up to her tomorrow and go "Hey, do you want to go out with me?" In fact, the best thing you can do is just start going out as friends. Then let it slowly evolve into a more serious relationship.

 

[falcontwin]

I'm not trying to be mean, But It sounds like she got dumped by someone she really liked and now she is trying to make herself feel better/more attractive by flirting with someone that she knows likes her to get her self esteem back.

It may be harsh but she feels comfortable with you and enjoys your friendship. She does not see you as a potential partner though.

These are just words from my own experience, maybe your situation is different but I doubt it. She is looking for a friend right now and as soon as she meets the next cute guy you'll be left holding her handbag while she is off doing the things you don't think she does cause she is such a wonderful princess.

Move on Find someone who likes you as much as you like them, Don't settle for "good enough"

 

[Fire Daemon]

I'm not trying to be mean, But It sounds like she got dumped by someone she really liked and now she is trying to make herself feel better/more attractive by flirting with someone that she knows likes her to get her self esteem back.

It may be harsh but she feels comfortable with you and enjoys your friendship. She does not see you as a potential partner though.

These are just words from my own experience, maybe your situation is different but I doubt it. She is looking for a friend right now and as soon as she meets the next cute guy you'll be left holding her handbag while she is off doing the things you don't think she does cause she is such a wonderful princess.

Move on Find someone who likes you as much as you like them, Don't settle for "good enough"

This, pretty much.

It does sound like she's on the rebound. You'd do well to not get in a romantic relationship. I think it can only end in embarrassment and anger. Although if you do really love her, it should be worth taking that risk.

 

[Good morning blues]

It sucks, but if you're not willing to risk the friendship, nothing's ever going to happen unless she makes the first move, and sitting around pining for a girl hoping she'll make the first move is a pretty lame existence.

If you're not comfortable making the first move on any circumstances, obviously you're simply not ready for the next level of a relationship with her. If you want to get more serious with her and you think she wants to get more serious with you, then don't feel afraid to take the next move. A one-sided relationship with only one person doing most of the advancement does not work.

What we're saying isn't that he's not comfortable with making the next move, it's that him making the next move isn't the best idea. Yes, if she goes a while without changing anything, then you should bring it up. But don't just walk up to her tomorrow and go "Hey, do you want to go out with me?" In fact, the best thing you can do is just start going out as friends. Then let it slowly evolve into a more serious relationship.

Actually, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that he either needs to make a move or give up on her. Personally, I advocate giving up on her and going for someone completely new, as in "meeting new people." Starting as friends can work for some people, I guess, but more often it puts people in a position where starting a relationship is either risking a valued friendship or a violation of what's assumed to be a safe association. There's a lot of fun to be had and a lot of confidence to be gained with friends of friends and strangers on the bus and all those. It's harder in high school, sure, but you can join a team or a group of some kind and go to meets with other schools.

 

[iseko]

I never asked any of the gf's i had out. Well not with so many words . I'd always dupe them in hanging out with me and showing them who I am. Thats what you've been doing. You guys should just go to a club now. Have a couple of drinks and see what happens.

 

[jasoncyrus]

Well...a'll treat this like you treat high levels of magnatism.

Make sure she's christian too or she'll end up dumping you for someone who doesn't think an invisible man in the clouds runs their life because they are too scared to run it themselves.

Btw Karma is sneaking up behind you with a big smack of balance for ignoring it and trying to get God to fix you life.

See God is like the Admin of things...he deals with accounts and billing, terminating contracts etc.

Where as Karma is an in game GM. Karma fixes your life when you ask it REALLY nicely and genuinely have no idea when to turn next. Asking the admin for help on a GM isue generally pisses the GMs off...

 

[Deadarm]

I'd go with asking her but then again I'm in no better shape with the ladies than you. If I had to guess I'd say she doesn't like you, but I'm cynical so take what I say with a grain of salt. I just don't consider a hug a real symbol of love these days, but once again I didn't see the hug so maybe it was more meaningful than I want to assume.

P.S. Does it seem sad that I imagined the hug in anime form? Maybe watching to much eureka 7 has altered my romance-o-meter.

I always see stuff in anime form. Its actually to the point where most everything I see I picture that way. Its probably nothing more than going slightly insane...

Anyways, I personally would wait about a week to see if she is still acting the same way and if she is go for it. If not at least it was a nice thought for about a week. But then again I would most likely never wind up in a situation like that because I refuse to be around people if it can be helped.

 

[EeveeElectro]

Hey, I'm a girl, I'll help!

As it has been a few months after her break up, I very much doubt she's on the rebound. If I split up with my boyfriend today, I'd probably run over to my best boy mates house, and hug him because I'd need to feel the comfort of a man again.
It sounds like she does like you, when a girl likes you, they'll touch you for no reason, just an excuse to get closer to you.
She's probably shy about making the first move incase she ruins your friendship, like any person would be.
Try to arrange more alone time together. We expect guys to make the first move, but that's not the law, of course! Like some others on this thread said, if neither of you make the first move, then you're probably not ready. As for the dream... I believe they tell us a lot. I know they are our sub concious thoughts and whatever you do before bed will most likely be in your dream (it is for me anyway).
I think God answered your prayer.
Good luck.

 

[Zac_Dai]

I'm not trying to be mean, But It sounds like she got dumped by someone she really liked and now she is trying to make herself feel better/more attractive by flirting with someone that she knows likes her to get her self esteem back.

It may be harsh but she feels comfortable with you and enjoys your friendship. She does not see you as a potential partner though.

These are just words from my own experience, maybe your situation is different but I doubt it. She is looking for a friend right now and as soon as she meets the next cute guy you'll be left holding her handbag while she is off doing the things you don't think she does cause she is such a wonderful princess.

Move on Find someone who likes you as much as you like them, Don't settle for "good enough"

You sound like a really nice guy and I understand the feelings you have at that age but this guy is probably right. You don't want to end up being a cuddle *****.

Either way you want to have a relationship with this girl but without you making the first move it won't ever happen and someone will get her instead.

But don't try the "I liek u, do u liek me?" because from the sounds of the flirting you can play it a lot more smoothly.

Though its hard to give advice on this one, is the flirting just hugging or does it get more intimate? If its more intimate I suggest trying to kiss her when it feels right, if its not, try to build it to a more intimate level first.

If she really does like you shes probably waiting for you to do something like this everytime you get "cuddly", also it shows your confident to try something like this and you know what you want. Girls like confident guys.

If he doesn't like you, she will reject your advances and you will probably feel an awkward idiot but at least you know. But if she still wants to be cuddly after that don't, tell her you just want to be normal friends and move on to another girl.

If you keep on going the way you are it will just eat at you constantly and feel even worse when she starts seeing someone else.