It's Apple vs. Amazon Over "Appstore"

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Your Nightmare

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Pilkingtube said:
I always wondered what all those lawyers did in their spare time.. there are only so many sensible cases to take afterall, and since we get more lawyers in the world all the time and people are living longer, the surplus gets to spend its time with stupid cases like this! :D

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Your Nightmare said:
It's pathetic. Nuff said.
I love your avatar! xD
On a unrelated note - It's meant to be animated, but I ucked up somewhere. His mouth opens (I say mouth..I mean pancakes..) and there is loads of slime (I say slime..I mean syrup..)
 

Killing_Time

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Fuck you Apple. Trademarking something like "App Store" is like trademarking *insert something you say everyday*. It's a completely common term and it should not be able to be trademarked. I hope Amazon and Microsoft win their court battles, then I hope they sue Apple and win. Ugh, just another reason to hate those bastards and their bastard company.
 

Aeshi

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So it's apparently okay to claim ownership over the SUN (something necessary for almost all life on Earth) but the moment Apple wants to claim ownership of the name "Appstore" for their store that sells Apps everybody throws a hissy fit?
 

AmrasCalmacil

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Can I vote that Amazon changes the name to 'Ye Olde Appe Shoppe'?
Just 'cause that would be awesome.

This sounds like that Edge fiasco all over again.
 

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
You know what, we have too many lawyers around these days...
As a training company lawyer I take offence to this.
And as a responce I shall sue you. It's all I was taught!!
 

Naturality

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Apple. Trademarking descriptions since 1976.

They're probably just still hurting after the Carl Sagan incident. Like the wimpy little kid that tries to join the bullies.
 

Waaghpowa

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Isn't Apple always looking to sue someone for or patent something that seems stupid? For some reason I recall them trying to patent the "Swipe motion" for touch screens.
 

constantcompile

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Oligopolies at their finest. This is akin to Verizon suing Sprint for referring to their coverage area as a "Network" - absolute legal pedantry.

We can expect to see this in the gaming industry, if things eventually boil down to an Activision/EA duality. In all honesty I'm amazed that no one has bought the rights to depicting the US Army the same way EA bought rights to the NFL; I'm sure it's been attempted by now.

Perhaps Capcom should patent down-forward punch as a projectile attack input, or Nintendo should copyright nondescript blobs as protagonists. Hell, Square Enix already patented their menu UI, so it's not that far of a stretch.
 

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Go Amazon, seriously. Amazon has been nothing but amazing to me, the best customer support of any company ever. Meanwhile, Apple's been nothing but dickish to me, so fuck Apple. Fuck Apple so hard. I hope Amazon counter-sues Apple for Apple being an unethical company full of douchebags and wins, financially crushing Apple. Fuck you, Steve Jobs.
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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Yeah, I'm definitely with Microsoft on this one - it's one thing when trademarked terms become synonymous with products in the public lexicon, and it's another entirely when companies trademark extremely generic terms that are just descriptions of functionality. What Apple has done would be like a shoe store trademarking "Shoe Store", and then suing competing shoe stores when they try to describe their business as "a bloody shoe store" - an "App Store" is a store for apps (or applications if you want to be precise), there is just no sane way to argue that Apple is in the right here.

App Store isn't a name, it's a bloody description.

esperandote said:
it's like the word "photoshoped", just because everyone say photoshoped to any image editing doesn't mean photo shop (tm) is free to use.
No, no it isn't, not even a little bit - the term "Photoshopped" has taken the proper name of a popular/predominant graphical image manipulation program and used it as a verb to describe the output of graphical image manipulation; Apple has taken a store that sells apps and trademarked it. The difference is that there really isn't an alternate way to say what the "App Store" is - it's a bloody app store.

We only know what "Photoshopped" means because everyone knows what Photoshop is and what people use it for, the term itself is not a self-contained description of what the individual using it intends to convey by invoking the term: If I say to you "That screenshot was totally photoshopped", what I mean is "Someone has clearly manipulated that image prior to publication", i.e., that I think it has been "faked".

App Store on the other hand is its own description - how would you explain what an app store is, hmm? And that is the problem, because you wouldn't even need to - it's a store that sells apps, "App Store" isn't a proper name at all. If Apple had come up with some less descriptive phrase that simply became synonymous with the concept of an app store, trademarked that term, and Amazon was trying to use that word for their own app store, then I would be defending Apple in this dispute (as unsavory as I find such a position, given I don't much care for Apple as a company). But that's not what they did, and that's why there don't seem to be many responses in this thread supporting Apple's position - the average internet denizen might not know a lot about the legal environment of business and trademark law, but we're damn good at detecting "total bullshit", and that's precisely what Apple's trademark of "App Store" is.
 

the.chad

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lol, would they sue for the term 'application store'?

it means the same as app store...
 

emeraldrafael

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I hope this kills both to be perfectly honest. Apple users are getting a bit too elitist, and Amazon is just making a monopoly. Or at least trying to.

... either way, its killing competition at a fast rate.
 

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Haha, what bunk. If you need any more reason to not like Apple, you are clearly mentally deficient. Apple should simply call their AppleStore, instead of AppStore. Then, there is no confusion. On Android based phones, they use App Market, that is practically the same thing. A store and a market are synonyms when talking about nouns. Not to mention, is there really any confusion on this topic? I don't think of Apple when I think of the word App, I think of of applications. Anyone who does are pretty much lemmings and should run to the nearest cliff and jump off.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
Raiyan 1.0 said:
You know what, we have too many lawyers around these days...
As a training company lawyer I take offence to this.
And as a responce I shall sue you. It's all I was taught!!
Oh shit! Now I've to call my lawyer while that sumbitch is busy naming his yacht after me 'cause he bought it with my goddamned bottle caps! Arrggghhh!

PS: I hope you're still in the self-deprecatory-humor mode, for what I say is in jest. Unlike you, who thinks all lawyers are money-grabbing suing machines. Such stereotyping! You are guilty of prejudice... against yourself. Now you can proceed to sue yourself for... umm... err... hey, you're the lawyer! You figure it out!
 

Nimbus

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Copyrighting "App Store" is like copyrighting "Restaurant". It just can't, or shouldn't, be done.
 

Callate

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Mmm. Edge-y.

You would think Apple would have had enough of this kind of rigmarole after the business with the Beatles' Apple Records.
 

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Eri said:
Hide your kids, Hide your wife

Hide your kids, Hide your wife

and hide your husband

Cuz they?re suin errbody out here
You have won a number of internets to be specified at a future date and time.

On topic, I actually support Apple here. Why? Because it'll make people think twice before they perpetrate idiotic phrases like "podcast" instead of "webcast."
 

BehattedWanderer

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I noticed the page just today, and thought "wow, Apple won't like this". Bam. Knew what was coming, before I saw the news. And I kinda hope that the issue gets resolved in Amazon/Microsoft's favor. It would be annoying to have to think of a new name for all that.

Coincidentally, has anyone else noticed how much Amazon has moved to digital services in the past year?
 

Flauros

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Depends on how your using it.


Office Depot is trademarked. But those are words that mean "office depot" a storage place for office stuff.

Staples is an "office depot" and you can say it. Its just not called "Office Depot".

So it depends on how theyre using it. Which at a glance, theyre using correctly. So fuck off, apple.





Also, i believe you can still use "staples" with out trademark, as well, lol