It's kind of sad that the Vita has more to play than the Wii U

[themistermanguy]

The PlayStation Vita has been making small steps to increase it's appeal, if only slightly. I'm actually starting to see it as the Sega Saturn of Handhelds. Great games & hardware bogged down by poor marketing and business practices. But it's actually kind of sad that the Vita has more interesting stuff than the Wii U games wise. While the PS Vita has been plagued by mediocre PS3 ports like the Wii U, and it may not have the backing of high profile 3rd party developers the 3DS has, it has more interesting software than the Wii U will ever hope to have.

It's games are Incredibly niche, and most of them never get localized, but like the Saturn, that's part of its charm. Dengan Ronpa, Conception, Soul Sacrifice, Gravity Rush, Killzone Mecinary, adding in all the PSN downloads and Playstation classics makes the Vita more appealing games wise than the Wii U. Which at this point for me, is just a glorified Web browser that plays The Wonderful 101 and Smash Bros. You may dissagree with me, but the Wii U at this point feels more like the 3D0, or N-Gage. Some good games, but spread out so thin with mediocre features and design.

 

[Ubiquitous Duck]

Not sure if statement .. or discussion start point..

I would mostly agree. Except on the idea of it being 'sad'.

Vita has had lots of investment and lots of games and is seeing a return on that investment. Wii U is gimmicky and has not got games of any interest for me and, evidently, not many other people.

I'd get a vita over a Wii U any day, but I'm still buying neither.

 

[ultrabiome]

While the PS Vita ... has more interesting software than the Wii U will ever hope to have.

Wow, that's a bit of hyperbole there. Comparing the Vita to the Wii U is interesting too... you're comparing a handheld versus a home console. There are also the abundance of Wii/Wii U Virtual Console games, which you seem to have forgotten or don't care about.

Frankly, I don't see anything on the PS4 or Xbox 1 that is 'interesting' to me, and the Wii U has enough going for it now to buy it. The Vita is nice, but my 3DS is a better system overall in my opinion as well. Your opinion is noted, but you seem biased and more importantly, misinformed.

 

[Zontar]

Vita has had lots of investment and lots of games and is seeing a return on that investment. Wii U is gimmicky and has not got games of any interest for me and, evidently, not many other people.

This coupled with the fact that the Vita has had a lot of 3rd party support, when compared to the WiiU which Nintendo was banking on 3rd party support helping it (even waiting a year too long for many 1st party games to allow them to shine) and then getting a harsh reminder that they are Nintendo, and that 3rd party companies would rather lose out on money then see Nintendo stay the biggest game in town.

On the bright side, while this is another bridge that has been burnt in the industry (this time being 3rd parties burning one towards Nintendo), this probably means we'll never see a Nintendo console released without a dozen 1st party games lined up ever again, and we sure as hell won't be seeing any windows of opportunity for a 3rd party game to be the next big thing on the "whatever-they-make-next-U", since trust can only be lost once and when it involves money it takes a looong time to forgive.

 

[McMarbles]

Why is it sad? It's been out a year longer. It'd be sad if the Vita DIDN'T have more to play.

It has more to play than the PS4 and X-Boner too.

 

[Foolery]

Sure, buddy. If you enjoy the limited PSN selection of PSP, PS1, indies, and ports of games you can easily find on other systems. I won't deny it has a few neat exclusives, but no system sellers, with an incredibly lack-luster library when you compare it to something like the 3DS.

 

[krazykidd]

Why is it sad? It's been out a year longer. It'd be sad if the Vita DIDN'T have more to play.

It has more to play than the PS4 and X-Boner too.

This is what i though when i read the title . Seriously bro, i'm all for bagging on the WIIU for not having games because seriously there are no games on it, but this is rediculous

 

[Church185]

Yeah, despite being a noted Sony fanboy, I don't think there is anything sad about the Vita having more games. It's been out longer. That's not even mentioning the fact that the games for Wii U take longer to create, due to the higher production value people expect out of a console game vs. a hand held game.

You're comparison is a very silly one to make.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

Vita has had lots of investment and lots of games and is seeing a return on that investment. Wii U is gimmicky and has not got games of any interest for me and, evidently, not many other people.

This coupled with the fact that the Vita has had a lot of 3rd party support, when compared to the WiiU which Nintendo was banking on 3rd party support helping it (even waiting a year too long for many 1st party games to allow them to shine) and then getting a harsh reminder that they are Nintendo, and that 3rd party companies would rather lose out on money then see Nintendo stay the biggest game in town.

On the bright side, while this is another bridge that has been burnt in the industry (this time being 3rd parties burning one towards Nintendo), this probably means we'll never see a Nintendo console released without a dozen 1st party games lined up ever again, and we sure as hell won't be seeing any windows of opportunity for a 3rd party game to be the next big thing on the "whatever-they-make-next-U", since trust can only be lost once and when it involves money it takes a looong time to forgive.

you are talking like this was 3rd parties' fault, when in fact its nintendo's, 3rd parties are not "losing money" by not porting their games to the wiiu, many of them would lose money if they did, the incredibly underpowered hardware and the very small playerbase means that any game being ported to the wiiu will take more time and resources, as devs cut corners from the PS4/XBO/PC version to make it fit into the wiiu, and the small playerbase means any sales will probably not be enough to deal with the costs

 

[kilenem]

The wii u fully backwards compatible unlike the POS VITA. I'm kind of Pissed Sony decided, You know those memory sticks, and UMD's you'll never use them again. Thanks for buying our crap know buy some more crap because KZ for the Vita has a 4GB patch and needs a bigger memory card. I refuse to buy any sony handheld because of the way they handled the PSP UMD. Why was it only Japan got the Chance to convert UMD's into digital games. I understand thrid party titles but First party titles Sony should have all of the licenses for. I'm not sure if Europe got the choice to exchange games.

Even Nintendo has a better online system for old games bought on the virtual console for the Wii. Don't get me wrong its bullshit you have to pay to move your games to the Wii U, when they become available but you can still access them for free by going to the Wii Menu. Sony put the PSone Classics and PSP games up for a day and it took it down for no reason. What are you doing Sony.

Hey the Wii U has a small library but Nintendo at least stayed committed to allowing you to use all the add ons and crap you bought with the Wii. I think they're like five different ways to drive a car in NFS most wanted 2012 for the Wii U.

 

[WeepingAngels]

The PlayStation Vita has been making small steps to increase it's appeal, if only slightly. I'm actually starting to see it as the Sega Saturn of Handhelds. Great games & hardware bogged down by poor marketing and business practices. But it's actually kind of sad that the Vita has more interesting stuff than the Wii U games wise. While the PS Vita has been plagued by mediocre PS3 ports like the Wii U, and it may not have the backing of high profile 3rd party developers the 3DS has, it has more interesting software than the Wii U will ever hope to have.

It's games are Incredibly niche, and most of them never get localized, but like the Saturn, that's part of its charm. Dengan Ronpa, Conception, Soul Sacrifice, Gravity Rush, Killzone Mecinary, adding in all the PSN downloads and Playstation classics makes the Vita more appealing games wise than the Wii U. Which at this point for me, is just a glorified Web browser that plays The Wonderful 101 and Smash Bros. You may dissagree with me, but the Wii U at this point feels more like the 3D0, or N-Gage. Some good games, but spread out so thin with mediocre features and design.

The Vita is like an indie machine to me and even though I am losing interest in Nintendo franchises, I still prefer them to a bunch of indie games. There is nothing on the Vita that tops Super Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3 or Wind Waker HD. Person 4 Golden is pretty good but it still falls below the three games listed in the previous sentence.

I know that there is this love affair going on with indies and I am patiently waiting for early access and kickstarter to firmly kill that affair but in the meantime, I can atleast say that indie games by and large do not interest me. A polished Nintendo game is tough to top.

This is all my opinion, I am stating no facts here.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

you are talking like this was 3rd parties' fault, when in fact its nintendo's, 3rd parties are not "losing money" by not porting their games to the wiiu, many of them would lose money if they did, the incredibly underpowered hardware and the very small playerbase means that any game being ported to the wiiu will take more time and resources, as devs cut corners from the PS4/XBO/PC version to make it fit into the wiiu, and the small playerbase means any sales will probably not be enough to deal with the costs

So basically fuck Nintendo and fuck the users who bought the console, amarite?, imagine this to PC you'd be livid and wouldn't dare blame the platform for anything, come on you're literally blaming the customers at the end of the day because of the user base.

Third parties are in no way completely innocent, stop trying to paint them as that please.

I also don't recall their hardware as very weak, not when they're able to get 1080p 60fps out of a few of their games compared to what the other two show boating consoles are trying for at this moment in time.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

you are talking like this was 3rd parties' fault, when in fact its nintendo's, 3rd parties are not "losing money" by not porting their games to the wiiu, many of them would lose money if they did, the incredibly underpowered hardware and the very small playerbase means that any game being ported to the wiiu will take more time and resources, as devs cut corners from the PS4/XBO/PC version to make it fit into the wiiu, and the small playerbase means any sales will probably not be enough to deal with the costs

So basically fuck Nintendo and fuck the users who bought the console, amarite?, imagine this to PC you'd be livid and wouldn't dare blame the platform for anything, come on you're literally blaming the customers at the end of the day because of the user base.

Third parties are in no way completely innocent, stop trying to paint them as that please.

I also don't recall their hardware as very weak, not when they're able to get 1080p 60fps out of a few of their games compared to what the other two show boating consoles are trying for at this moment in time.

what does PC have to do with anything?

hell if it makes you feel better right now im fucking pissed at microsoft because fucking windows 8 keeps crashing my games and i didnt even install this piece of garbage OS in my poor PC, damn idiots at the tech store...

im not blaming the customer base, im blaming nintendo and nintendo only, for making such an underpowered machine, you cant be this short sighted when you make a machine its supposed to sustain your business for the next 6-8 years

also there are PS2 games that run at 60 FPS, does that means the PS2 is stronger than current gen consoles? nope

i dont see how 3rd parties, any 3rd party dev would want nintendo to go down, "one less market to capitalize on!, yay?"

 

[balladbird]

what does PC have to do with anything?

Nothing. Methinks the gentleman you quoted got upset and made sweeping generalizations about the character of the person he was quoting. As people do.

Honestly, Japanese support for the vita has been phenomenal this year. Conception II, Dangan Ronpa, Demon Gaze, Deception IV, Final Fantasy X, and with titles like Tales of Hearts, Senran Kagura, Dangan Ronpa II, and Akiba's trip all coming to it before the new year?

2014 has essentially transformed the Vita into a must-own console for any fan of JRPGs/visual novels, especially on top of the excellent PSP/PS1 classics on offer.

That said, it's not a fair comparison, yet. Vita's had a longer time on the market, and it took a HELL of a long time to start finding its groove. I'm as pessimistic about the long term prospects of the Wii-u as any internet denizen, but at least give it a fair shake at the market.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

what does PC have to do with anything?

Nothing. Methinks the gentleman you quoted got upset and made sweeping generalizations about the character of the person he was quoting. As people do.

Honestly, Japanese support for the vita has been phenomenal this year. Conception II, Dangan Ronpa, Demon Gaze, Deception IV, Final Fantasy X, and with titles like Tales of Hearts, Senran Kagura, Dangan Ronpa II, and Akiba's trip all coming to it before the new year?

2014 has essentially transformed the Vita into a must-own console for any fan of JRPGs/visual novels, especially on top of the excellent PSP/PS1 classics on offer.

That said, it's not a fair comparison, yet. Vita's had a longer time on the market, and it took a HELL of a long time to start finding its groove. I'm as pessimistic about the long term prospects of the Wii-u as any internet denizen, but at least give it a fair shake at the market.

ill be honest, i feel sony has made much more for the vita than nintendo for the wiiu

i mean inviting all those indie devs onboard? thumbs up, not only are many indie games simple and graphically light enough to be ported to the handheld, but those indie devs can always use a few more peanuts, literally everybody wins with this move

PS+ being cross platform? nice, cross platform titles that you buy once for your PS3/PS4 and you can play on your Vita as well? nice, remote play? meh its ok, i guess some people could find some use for it

that being said its not enough yet, the haldheld is still severely lacking when it comes to backwards compativility and sony should stop treating the damn thing like its a mini playstation, it didnt work too well for the PSP, and i dont think it can work for the Vita either, make good games designed around the handheld, dont try to port big AAA games to the poor little fella

regardless i see some progress, Sony dont seem to learn from their mistakes that well but atleast are willing to try new things

i dont see that with nintendo and the WiiU, for a console thats arguably the most innovative of this new generation, nintendo's strategy with the machine couldnt be more outdated, it seems once they realized the WiiU wouldnt sell as much as the Wii, they simply tried to fire all their guns at once to see if they could attract enough customers to make the whole thing not a total waste of time, the thing is, this didnt work that well for the N64, and it worked ever worse for the gamecube, people who are only interested in nintendo games will keep buying the console like they always have, but they will be unable to attract many new customers with that strategy, i believe what most people want in a gaming platform, is a piece of hardware that can satisfy all or most of their gaming needs, sure exclusives are fine, but people also need their call of duties, their battlefields, their skyrims, etc, and of course, they want a good online service, and well altough im not very familiarized with the WiiU's online service, i think the only thing ive heard it has going for it its the fact that is free

by making the console so underpowered and having such a small playerbase, nintendo have thrown themselves in a hole from which i dont think they will be able to come out, of all the home consoles they have ever released, this might be the most 3rd party unfriendly of them all, previous consoles atleast had either the playerbase or the graphical power to make 3rd party titles and ports easy or worth it

3rd party is so important that both microsfot and Sony have designed their consoles around a PC architecture, why? because fucking everybody knows how to program for PC, and it means any 3rd party game released for either PC, PS4 or XBox One, is likely to end up in every single one of those platforms, as long as the platform can handle it, and running roughly at the same level, if anybody learn not to make weird console architectures last gen, that was Sony

 

[Hero of Lime]

I can honestly say I am happier to have a Wii U over a Vita at this point. I keep looking for games to get me interested in Vita, but I seriously can't find a single one that makes me want one. Plus, I was also burned on the fact that most of my favorite PSP games have been, or will probably be ported to consoles, I feel like it's the same story with Vita.

Besides, the Wii U lineup is way better than the Wii's at this point. I know we are talking about the Vita, but I think it's important to compare a console's line up with their predecessors too. Not saying the library is great, but it's good so far if you really like first party Nintendo games.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

Has more to play you say? Opinions. My brother has a vita and barely touches it, I want one, but there's no games that interest me, my Wii U on the other have has eight boxed games I play, 6 of them exclusive. Also 6 games I have bought for it online, some being virtual console console ones, like Megaman X which I had never played before.

There's plenty on the machine in my opinion, with more coming soon. I don't understand how non-localized games can be a selling point, or charming either.

Add to that, it can play my two dozen Wii games as well, and you have a lot of games to play.

 

[COMaestro]

The PlayStation Vita has been making small steps to increase it's appeal, if only slightly. I'm actually starting to see it as the Sega Saturn of Handhelds. Great games & hardware bogged down by poor marketing and business practices. But it's actually kind of sad that the Vita has more interesting stuff than the Wii U games wise. While the PS Vita has been plagued by mediocre PS3 ports like the Wii U, and it may not have the backing of high profile 3rd party developers the 3DS has, it has more interesting software than the Wii U will ever hope to have.

It's games are Incredibly niche, and most of them never get localized, but like the Saturn, that's part of its charm. Dengan Ronpa, Conception, Soul Sacrifice, Gravity Rush, Killzone Mecinary, adding in all the PSN downloads and Playstation classics makes the Vita more appealing games wise than the Wii U. Which at this point for me, is just a glorified Web browser that plays The Wonderful 101 and Smash Bros. You may dissagree with me, but the Wii U at this point feels more like the 3D0, or N-Gage. Some good games, but spread out so thin with mediocre features and design.

1: True about the Vita; that just proves that having powerful hardware and graphics aren't everything.
2: That is just a big fat lie; have you even watched or read any reviews of the WiiU regarding its features?
3: PS Vita doesn't have any unique software that the WiiU doesn't have except for great supported online and PS4 cross-compatibility, which is something that the 3DS doesn't have with the WiiU yet.
4: How is non-localized games part of the charm? That just makes the Vita even more shit outside of Japan, like the Wii.
5: Classics? Sonce when did the Vita have Virtual Console to it? Then how the hell does PS4 not have Virtual Console?
6: The WiiU is superior compared to that shit; even Nintendo haters would agree on this one.

I'm not even going to get into your points 1 and 2 as they are only based on opinion, as was TheMisterManGuy's statements.

3)Vita has plenty of unique software that the WiiU doesn't have, and vice versa. How in the world are you questioning this?

4)All the games named by TheMisterManGuy ARE localized. As for others, since there's no region locking on the Vita, one could still purchase non-localized games and play them if they can understand Japansese. Some you can even muddle through without understanding the language. There are some WiiU games that aren't localized and because of region locking you have no possibility of playing them.
Plus, there are plenty of games developed in the West for all consoles and portables that never get localized in Japan either, so that issue swings both ways.

5)Vita can play many PS1 and PSP games. It's not a Virtual Console, but it still has some classic games available for it.

6):Your Nintendo fanboyism is showing. I have no interest in the WiiU, but I'm sure it's a perfectly good console with some good games, so it's hardly shit. I play my Vita daily and have a great time with the various games I have installed on the memory card, and I can play it anywhere, not just at home in front of the television, which gives it a huge plus right there.

Comparing the WiiU to the Vita is pretty pointless as other than playing games, they seek to achieve different things.