its not illegal to watch

[Grand_Marquis]

Look, this is really simple guys - if it's digital media, and you're doing something to it in the United States that creates a copy, you're breaking the law unless otherwise specified.

When I put music I bought on itunes onto a CD, I'm breaking the law. When I rip a movie I rented from netflix onto my computer so I can frame-by-frame the special effects scenes, I'm breaking the law. When I torrent an art program in order to make the money I need to buy said art program, I'm breaking the law, regardless of the fact that I eventually buy it. If I watch a clip of Jon Stewart with Linkin Park overlayed onto the soundtrack on Youtube, I'm breaking the law. There's little-to-zero middle ground here.

So the question becomes: how much to you care, and how much do the authorities care? The percentage answer to that question is the only thing that matters.

 

[Nazulu]

Of course it's legal and so is child molestation, I also wear shoes on my head and punch anyone who is nice to me in Bizzaro World!

 

[calelogan]

You wouldn't download a car.

Flawless.

 

[Liverandbacon]

i was talking to this bloody idiot he with all his heart believes that going online and watching a streaming video of a movie is completely legal and he can do it all he wants, while DOWNLOADING the same movie is illegal. where is the logic in this??

Tell that guy what streaming actually is: Watching something while it downloads. He's still downloading the movie.

 

[Trivun]

I have a TV license and I stream TV shows (I just finished watching an episode of Heroes that I missed on Monday, actually...). However, I only download TV shows from places I'm specifically allowed to by said license (such as BBC iPlayer, and so on). With films, however, I have streamed films in the past (not sure if it's allowed or not). However, I wouldn't download them. If I ever did I'd only do it with films that I already own, since whatever the law says I don't think there's anything wrong with downloading something you've already paid for (else Apple would have gone the same way as The Pirate Bay by now...). There isn't really much point to that though, since if I've already paid for a film then I'll own it already. I wouldn't watch The Da Vinci Code by downloading it, since I just watched the DVD today, which I own. I do, however, download FMV's of games that I own simply for video making (for Youtube, as 'crispymongoose'), and that's fine to me since I already own the cinematics in a way, through owning the game (Note I don't meany sort of copyright, I merely own a copy of said film or show or whatever). I have no idea what the law says, but in my opinion, I don't think there's much wrong on a moral level from streaming films, as long as you don't download them, in response to the OP. Unless you already own it anyway...

P.S. Sorry for the Wall'O'Text...

 

[Travdelosmuertos]

Bah, read copyright infringement laws before accusing someone of being retarded. it is only illegal if you reproduce or distribute, streaming is neither. It is just watching, without any illegal downloading (reproduction) or uploading (distribution).

^What this guy said.

 

[Zersy]

i was talking to this bloody idiot he with all his heart believes that going online and watching a streaming video of a movie is completely legal and he can do it all he wants, while DOWNLOADING the same movie is illegal. where is the logic in this??

It's because he's a idiot

BAM ! there's the logic

holy crap i get it now!

Technically you already answered your own question within the seventh word of your post i simply pointed it out

GO LOGIC !

"Artificcial Intelligance is no match to Natural Stupidity"

 

[Zac_Dai]

You wouldn't download a car.

Flawless.

Actually its a pretty flawed argument.

No you wouldn't download a car but then you wouldn't be able to make infinite copies of said car with no real input resources whatsoever.

This is why if someone downloads a song off a torrent site it hasn't actually cost the record company any actual money. All they can claim is a lost sale, but then many pirates would never have bought it anyway, regardless of whether they could acquire it for free.

This is why the media industry initially branded people who did this as pirates rather than thieves.

But then people who are anti-pirate and people who support piracy are so ideologically opposed that argument about the subject is a pointless task.

 

[DisturbiaWolf13]

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legal, illega, I dont care. I want it, i take it.

Anarchy, baby!

Oh, I see.

Nice TV you've got there. Now you don't. Mind if I take also your consoles and PC? No? Well too bad, I want them. Kiss them goodbye.

And don't go to the police, or you'll be another raging hypocrite.

Yay.

There is a BIG difference in stealing from a person, and stealing from a huge corporation. I have morals, you twat.

/reported for the twat part.

Also, I see little difference. So, you think that huge corporation is unaffected? Half true. Big cats at the top won't feel anything. You are just hurting the regular Joe working at that corporation, his salary might get cut or worse, they might fire him.

You might as well steal half of his salary.

What happened to freedom of speech?

DON'T TASE ME BRO!

Sums up you pretty nicely. Your freedom ends when you violate the freedom of other people. Your rights should also end when you take the rights of other people.

When you take someone's right to life, you should have no right to be a free man.

I'm pretty sure that calling someone a twat isn't quite the same as violating someone's freedom, just a guess though.

It was just an example. Insulting someone is taking away someone's dignity, or an attempt to do so. That's why no matter what country and how much freedom of speech there is, if you go to the president and tell him he's an asswipe, you will be punished.

Unless you don't see anything wrong in insulting strangers. In that case, I pity you. Must be a hard enviornment.

insulting some1 is not anything close 2 taking theyr freedom u fool.if u feel the insult is true then i dont see the problem in saying it it is your opinion and you are stating it. Is that wrong?

That's why smart people see a difference between an opinion and an insult. Opinion is neutral. Insult is filled with hatred and negative emotions. And you are not that smart if for you insults = opinions.

Calling someone a homosexual is not an insult. Calling him a gay, the F word or worse is an insult.

Also, try to write correctly, my eyes hurt.

you think opinion is neutral? opinions can be very positive or negative,if you meant that opinion is not coulored by emotion you should have said that by the way but insults dont need to be either they just often are.if you think someone is an idiot and you tell them that it is insulting them but it is also your opinion.and about my writing,it is done for speed and if it makes your eyes hurt i suggest seeing a physician.idiot.

 

[Abedeus]

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legal, illega, I dont care. I want it, i take it.

Anarchy, baby!

Oh, I see.

Nice TV you've got there. Now you don't. Mind if I take also your consoles and PC? No? Well too bad, I want them. Kiss them goodbye.

And don't go to the police, or you'll be another raging hypocrite.

Yay.

There is a BIG difference in stealing from a person, and stealing from a huge corporation. I have morals, you twat.

/reported for the twat part.

Also, I see little difference. So, you think that huge corporation is unaffected? Half true. Big cats at the top won't feel anything. You are just hurting the regular Joe working at that corporation, his salary might get cut or worse, they might fire him.

You might as well steal half of his salary.

What happened to freedom of speech?

DON'T TASE ME BRO!

Sums up you pretty nicely. Your freedom ends when you violate the freedom of other people. Your rights should also end when you take the rights of other people.

When you take someone's right to life, you should have no right to be a free man.

I'm pretty sure that calling someone a twat isn't quite the same as violating someone's freedom, just a guess though.

It was just an example. Insulting someone is taking away someone's dignity, or an attempt to do so. That's why no matter what country and how much freedom of speech there is, if you go to the president and tell him he's an asswipe, you will be punished.

Unless you don't see anything wrong in insulting strangers. In that case, I pity you. Must be a hard enviornment.

insulting some1 is not anything close 2 taking theyr freedom u fool.if u feel the insult is true then i dont see the problem in saying it it is your opinion and you are stating it. Is that wrong?

That's why smart people see a difference between an opinion and an insult. Opinion is neutral. Insult is filled with hatred and negative emotions. And you are not that smart if for you insults = opinions.

Calling someone a homosexual is not an insult. Calling him a gay, the F word or worse is an insult.

Also, try to write correctly, my eyes hurt.

you think opinion is neutral? opinions can be very positive or negative,if you meant that opinion is not coulored by emotion you should have said that by the way but insults dont need to be either they just often are.if you think someone is an idiot and you tell them that it is insulting them but it is also your opinion.and about my writing,it is done for speed and if it makes your eyes hurt i suggest seeing a physician.idiot.

Weak excuse for lack of writing skill. Using correct spelling or spell checkers is free.

Why do I even try to reason with you? You lack the basic manners or even basic knowledge of what's the difference between a neutral opinion and a negative insult.

/Report for trolling.

 

[Good morning blues]

Not sure about the States, but both of the activities listed in the OP are legal in the majority of countries in the world

Then why Youtube is censoring videos that use copywrited music? It's streamed, isn't it? For example, the only way I could get "It's The End Of The World As We Know It" by R.E.M. is use a program on a video of their live concert. Because the original video with the song was muted.


Streaming is nothing more than downloading everything on your disc and playing it in real time. After you close your browser, everything is deleted.

Distributing copyrighted material is pretty much universally illegal. Downloading it usually is not.

 

[calelogan]

You wouldn't download a car.

Flawless.

Actually its a pretty flawed argument.

No you wouldn't download a car but then you wouldn't be able to make infinite copies of said car with no real input resources whatsoever.

This is why if someone downloads a song off a torrent site it hasn't actually cost the record company any actual money. All they can claim is a lost sale, but then many pirates would never have bought it anyway, regardless of whether they could acquire it for free.

This is why the media industry initially branded people who did this as pirates rather than thieves.

But then people who are anti-pirate and people who support piracy are so ideologically opposed that argument about the subject is a pointless task.

Perhaps my "flawless" was misunderstood. With good reason though, I didn't go into detail.

I merely meant the joke, as a parody to the "You wouldn't ..." campaign, was hilarious and I couldn't stop laughing.

I didn't go into building up an argument...after all...no argument is flawless.

 

[HateDread]

You wouldn't download a car.

Oh god...

You wouldn't steal a purse, blah blah

You Australian too?

 

[Simiou]

You wouldn't download a car.

You would shoot a policeman, then steal his hat, then shit in it and mail it to his wife (and then steal it again).

 

[silverbot01]

What kind of bs is this?

The internet is at it's heart a child's play thing. And its not illegal to do anything with it. I use the internet myself as my own personal pet monkey and only feed it the cash my ISP asks for. I never take a moment to think of whats legal, im too busy doing things i want to do to pay any attention to the copyrights, terms of use, or other unimportant policies that require me to understand the deeply challenging idea behind reading anything.

 

[scotth266]

You wouldn't download a car.

Watch me!
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Haven't found any good torrent

Dude, these seeders suck.

Ok, to be on topic: there are legal streamers. I believe Hulu is a popular one, I have no idea. Also, some companies stream content on their own sites. It all depends on the source.

 

[Rivana]

When I read this topic headline I figured this thread would be about something kinky like some crazy donkey show down in Mexico... those certainly should be illegal to watch.

 

[Straitjacketeering]

You wouldn't download a car.

OR WOULDN'T I!? I'd download a motorcycle instead!