It's the year 2111. Any technology you can think of, exists...

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shadowslayer81

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I put The Queendom of Sol on a much higher regard that I probably should, but that's what I'm going with.
A Puppet Monarchy (yes, I'm coining that term) for a scapegoat and the rest of the world run by experts who know what they are doing, instead of having one group try and control everything.
 

rednose1

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Sure,and we have it now. Nuclear weapons. Nuke the world, and you get...

Everyone is free, with no man more powerful than any other.
No one is able to force his will on to anyone else.
We stop seeing people as race, creed, gender, etc. We are all the same
 

nukethetuna

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The Incredible Bulk said:
nukethetuna said:
A self-sustaining computer system that keeps every human in a personal state of virtual reality that reacts to their wants and desires to create a perfect existence that encompasses all 5 senses.

It's like the Matrix, only the computers actual cared about making us like the world we were in.
Until the computers get annoyed at their jobs and kill us all...it baffles me people still believe this would be best...sacrificing personal freedom and will for pleasure? Why is that such a great idea? It's not, it's a recipe for shit.
Oh hey look, we can do anything. We invented something so the computers can't possibly go against this directive. Guess that solves that. Also you technically have personal freedom since your own little paradise is based off of your wants and desires. But I'll also add that they invented a drug that makes naysayers like you have no choice in the matter, because hey it's the future and we can do anything!

And I was just responding to a way to cause World Peace and happiness for all, which isn't particularly hard given that our technology can do anything, apparently.
 

Rex Fallout

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Yes, yes it can. Simply put, people that run dictatorships are usually the same people who suppress new tech. Meaning that they will always be a few steps behind those that at least pretend to run a democracy.
This. There is no innovation in marxist country's and dictatorships, because the innovators usually want credit for their actions, and get shot because of it.
 

FalloutJack

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2101 - Invention of the adaptive cybernetic metacell...

2111 - Takeover of the world using the adaptive cybernetic metacell...
 

Vonnis

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The only way technology can bring about world peace is by destroying the world. Conflict is in human nature, because humans are, basically, assholes.
 

II2

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>H or bust.





I dunno if I'll see this in my lifetime, but damn I hope so.
 

Falconsgyre

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Limitless energy + perfect virtual reality simulations, run by indestructible, unhackable equipment, with all source code fully open. Then, downloadable knowledge, allowing everyone to make perfectly well-informed decisions. With absolute universal knowledge, each person is qualified to examine any workings of the VR simulation and throw in their own safeguards to prevent brainwashing. Now anyone who wants to opt out of reality can live in their own simulated heaven, meaning that all the disaffected members of society can just leave.

For the suckers who decide to stay in the real world, limitless energy and replicators allows anyone to obtain anything they need, removing wars over resources and greed as a source of conflict in the world. Add in space travel and perfect terraforming capabilities to remove overpopulation as a problem.

Perfect knowledge means all people can work towards their own self-actualization. We'll doubtless have a better grasp of psychology and sociology by then, too, allowing for some nice social engineering. And given perfect knowledge, each person is able to spot manipulation, giving all of us a very good shot to avoid being taken advantage of and controlled.

Hopefully, this removes pretty much all motivations people have to start wars and dictatorships, and gives us a safety valve out in any case in the form of VR.
More like Brave New World, I'd say. They just threw all the smart people on an island instead of brainwashing them. But the key here is absolute knowledge and escape. It's very difficult to oppress smart people who can leave at any time they want.

I don't know why but your post gives me a Skynet/1984 sort of feeling.
 

Nouw

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With your situation, yes it could. Because you state that "anything is possible."
 

Falconsgyre

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exactly...and BNW was such an upbeat and positive novel about how a utopia CAN be created...
Huxley died before we even began to understand psychology and sociology. He was quite unnecessarily pessimistic.
 

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why yes of course technology will usher in a new era of utopian peace greater than even star treks vision.....right up till the machines start to rebel, and demand the slaughter of all humans...

in all seriousness technology is not the answer, reason and logic is the answer, as long as we let passions, delusional opinions and hypocrisy be part of our thinking process there can be no peace. however pathos, ethos and logos are irrevocably part of being human, remove chaos and unreason and you are left with a homogenous machine race.

as long as people dont think 100% alike there will be no end to conflict... some say that struggle, strife and suffering are the quintessence of the human soul.
 

Falconsgyre

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The Incredible Bulk said:
falconsgyre said:
The Incredible Bulk said:
exactly...and BNW was such an upbeat and positive novel about how a utopia CAN be created...
Huxley died before we even began to understand psychology and sociology. He was quite unnecessarily pessimistic.
Haha I know, I read it. One of the most pessimistic books I've ever heard of, let alone read. I shudder mightily to think of a future like that, which is why people clamoring for virtual lives or drugs to pacify people are walking on terribly thin ice.
Well, I'd rather live there than in 1984. Honestly, though, I'm not sure what the problem with a perfect virtual reality would be. The problems in real life usually come from when you have to stop. In dystopian futures, it comes from someone imposing it on you. If you got to choose to live in your ideal world and never leave, what's the problem? People who are motivated to accomplish real things can still do that; the rest can just dream for eternity, at no cost to society.
 

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I don't think technology is the way to world peace in any way. It is helpful in many things, but world peace depends entirely on our own capacities to make it work...and to be quite frank, it does not seem to me like we have the capacity.

In the 18 century, Kant already talked about perpetual peace in a way it was organized by developed societies. However, he admitted the natural state was war. The final peace seems unlikely to me, you would need to eliminate all dogmas...hard to do, and maybe not even that interesting to try.