I've about had it with the gender wars around here.

[Blow_Pop]

I can only get but so invested in a war in which the sides are arbitrarily assigned and in which the conditions for "winning" are near impossible to define, much less to achieve. Just don't be a dick to people and everyone wins

you pretty much summed up my thoughts. That and the OP. Both sides suck equally. I actually was saying that to a friend the other day. And he was surprised that a girl would say that women and men are equally shallow and stupid. Some of it can be the same but there are also subtle differences in what makes them stupid/shallow. With women it tends to be intelligence/money/looks so it seems. With men it seems to just be looks. Some men want intelligence, others are intimidated by it. And of those intimidated by it they choose to try and discredit the intelligent women to make themselves feel better. But we're all humans and that seems to be the fact both sides keep forgetting. I'm going to crawl back into my cave and go back to job hunting and attempting to read game of thrones.

 

[Gorrila_thinktank]

You know what I want? I want love to stop being a one-for-one with sex. I want both men and women to be gallant and gentle, both as a personal choice and as a matter of social expectation. I want the rich to give to the poor and I want the poor to be grateful because what they got was a gift and not be expecting handouts as their due. I want the sunshine, blue skies and enough rain for abundant crops. I want the Escapist Forum to stop being mean. I want the venom to be taken out of the gender wars. I want people to be able to be vulnerable and not worry about being attacked for it. I want people to stop think that it?s Man vs. Women when it?s really Women vs. Girl and Man vs. Boy. I want to stop feeling bad and weird around my Ex, because It was only like two dates. I want the people in the next apartment to stop shouting at each other. I want kids, and someone to help me raise them. I want space travel, so my kids can go and explore. I want to go outside and not have something in the back of my head tell me I?m going to be attacked, raped or mugged. I want to stop only picturing men when I think about rapists and muggers. I want the news stations to also tell me about the good things that are happening in the world. I want women to feel they can wear lose and/or modest clothes, and men to be able to where kilts and sarongs as just another part of their wardrobe. I want to build a room with mirrors on the walls, floor and ceiling so I can get a good look at myself. I want people to stop drinking to get drunk because they?re so much cooler when I can talk to them. I want to organize an international dance day, where the whole world gets moving for like, 5 minutes at least, to promote international peace and unity. I want to stop being so idealistic and naive, but I also want everyone else to be idealistic and naive. I want to grow a thicker skin but I also want everyone else to be more empathetic.

 

[Gorrila_thinktank]

the problem is everyone is biased towards their own gender...its a very hard thing to overcome..hell Im guilty of it

Is it? I just try to avoid making assumptions about women in general. And men for that matter. Other than that I suppose not being as aware of issues that do not impact me directly might be a problem in regards to that. But overall, why would it be hard? What part of it is hard to not do? Though hey, I can't really judge how successfully I've overcome any bias since said bias would skew my perspective so maybe it is harder than I think.

I'm biased, I know I am, though I try not to be...I think there is a very angry feminist inside that wants to claw her way out and slice of a mans balls (not weird at all right?)

I think somone here made a generalisation about women, to which I promptly refuted..after some back and fourth I realised this person was female (I think)

I then realised i had pegged them as some guy on the internet who veiwed women as some kind of alien species, It kind of threw me off, would i have replyed like I had had I known they were female?

anyway...what annoys me is that to SOME people, being male is seen as some "default" state of beng in all things , being female is a devation of all that is "standard/normal"

I mean Im just like you guys, I hate being pegged as "this" or "that"

Your right, I want girls to be Default and guys to be Special.

 

[The Consequence]

I don't suck. I'm amazing. I've met a few pornstars, and they were pretty friendly actually. But just ya know, in a pornstar way.

 

[Vault101]

snip.

If i were a man Id actually be offended at some of the shit they show

like "men are just animals that cant control their ugrges"

or even worse, in media (adversting in aprticular) men are portayed as fucking dumbasses...as semi-retarded man children who can bearely function, even if the product is for men

that I dont envy

Your right, I want girls to be Default and guys to be Special.

it sucks....its all the same bullshit and people make a big deal out of everything

"its hard to write female charachters" <- NO IT FUCKING ISNT

 

[Something Amyss]

At first I was thinking 'gender wars' as in women's rights, but with guns.

that would be awesome, but completely unfair. I mean, women with guns? They're going to totally lose!

>.>

<.<

 

[Easton Dark]

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I like this list. Can I want all of this stuff too?

 

[Gorrila_thinktank]

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I like this list. Can I want all of this stuff too?

Yes. Yes you can.

 

[Easton Dark]

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I like this list. Can I want all of this stuff too?

Yes. Yes you can.

Yay!

Although on further review, any Ex I have is nowhere near me now. And I like the rain too much to have enough just for abundant crops...

But everything else? Yes, just yes. Kilt for me! (although with how easily I'm known to be aroused, that may be a problem, but who cares! Freedom!)

 

[Gorrila_thinktank]

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I like this list. Can I want all of this stuff too?

Yes. Yes you can.

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*sigh* momma and popa always said not to fall for people on sunday, everybody always looks better on sunday...

but as for the rain, you are absouletly right. their is nothing cooler than a huge thunderstorm, or the smell of fresh rain.

Edit: I dont think my Forum-Fu is strong, sorry about the miss-quote Easton Dark

 

[Something Amyss]

"its hard to write female charachters" <- NO IT FUCKING ISNT

Well, it's more that it's hard for men, who are the predominant portion of the industry, to write female characters with any sort of insight and perspective.

You may have noticed the gender divide. People are raised in Western culture to think there is some sort of radical difference between men and women and how "the other sex" is some bizarre mystery with amazing thought processes.

As a result, men tend to write based on preconceptions.

 

[Right Hook]

I just sit back and let the "war" continue, I don't pick a side and I rarely have anything to do with it. I've never met a woman who is worth more than a few nights at best, I do believe there are great people out there for me, even though I don't believe in a perfect person or the one. Until I find a reason to relax, I'm just gonna keep doing what I do, I'm not lonely, I have the best company ever, myself. I don't mean that in a self-centered way I just mean you need to be content with yourself before you consider being with someone else. That's where these problems stem from, a bunch of insecure people looking for anyone to blame that isn't them.

 

[Easton Dark]

*sigh* momma and popa always said not to fall for people on sunday, everybody always looks better on sunday...

but as for the rain, you are absouletly right. their is nothing cooler than a huge thunderstorm, or the smell of fresh rain.

Edit: I dont think my Forum-Fu is strong, sorry about the miss-quote Easton Dark

Heh, Sunday afternoon is when all the fun people are out and about though.

And yes, I love storms (except when the power is cut) and the smell. I usually have an open window to get some of it while I sit and listen.

-/-/ Common gender ground detected. 'Not so different after all' sequence initiate/-/-

And hey, at least I got the quote message

 

[Vault101]

I just sit back and let the "war" continue, I don't pick a side and I rarely have anything to do with it. I've never met a woman who is worth more than a few nights at best, .

is that another way if saying you just prefer casual sex tot he Idea of a relationship?

or is that statment a way of saying those women didnt have much worth as people aside from some shagging..which is kind of how Im reading it

 

[RandallJohn]

-snip-

...wow. That was amazing. I was about to post something rather angrily until I read that. Thanks.

 

[Johnny Impact]

So much easier to blame the other side than to address the problems in ourselves.

 

[Right Hook]

I just sit back and let the "war" continue, I don't pick a side and I rarely have anything to do with it. I've never met a woman who is worth more than a few nights at best, .

is that another way if saying you just prefer casual sex tot he Idea of a relationship?

or is that statment a way of saying those women didnt have much worth as people aside from some shagging..which is kind of how Im reading it

That's definitely not how I intended it, I meant that they didn't have much to offer me personally, not that they had no value in general. It was just my way of saying that it isn't worth committing to a relationship if it's going to be more trouble than it is worth.