I've decided I'm not a fan of Japanease games...

[Vault101]

first of all please dont take this the wrong way...buuuuuut anywayits interesting to note the differences in Japanease and western game design so anyway..and yeah Im not very familiar with Japanease games

ok I decided to try out Yakuza 3, because it looked interesting and I liked the Idea of the gritty world of the Yakuza

soooo after a long time spent recaping on the storys of the previous games (very necciary as the first thing I notice about thease games are the plots are very complex/convoluted)

and yeah the storys were pretty cool

so THEN after recapping I start playing....sort of, more watching really

now this is my first problem with thease games, I love storys and quite like cutscenes....but SWEET JESUS I get the impression here they were really just making a movie and tacking the game on afterwards

I mean its not just the long long cutscenes..they are good for cutscenes I supose, BUT its also the jarring use of text-in game, rather than you know, in game charachters talking its just text...and its very bizare to see charachters mouths almost syncing up with the "clack clack clack" noise of the text

my point being it just doesnt help the immersion...to go from cinematic cutscenes to text popping up everywhere

I'll admit I was getting pretty frustrated as the game went on...to the point where I was screaming internally "I just want to kill somthing!!!"

gameplaywise..Im not expereince with fighting games so I cant comment I supose its pretty good...though it doesnt feel very natural

now I admit right here that obviously Im just soo used to the common things in Western games that all this is rather jaarring

AND to the point I got up to I only barley scratched the surfuace (and I have a feeling this is gonna be a looooonng game :/)

and no I'm not giving up here, I'll try and get through it

so my question is how do you feel about Japaease games? (not just RPG's) are there any you like?

EDIT: OK OK I am generalising, I just think I was a little overwhealmed by Yakuzas "japanease"ness after being used to common things seen in current western games

no I dont like Mario eather....but for different reasons (and that game apeals to western audiences fine anyway)

 

[Ironic Pirate]

I tend to not like them as well. For one thing, they all have awful menus, or at least all the ones I've played. I mean, I know I shouldn't be this picky, but they have these really cheese-ball things that male sparkles noises every time you highlight something, and it pisses me off.

And the same thing goes for the HUD. And Japanese games seem to love replaying things over and over again for a higher score, complete with ranking after each mission, which I hate with a passion.

On top of all that, they just don't really make games in genres I like. Demon's Souls is styled after a WRPG, but it's also fucking hard in incredibly bullshit ways. Lost Planet and Vanquish are third person shooters, and they're also both terrible in fundamental ways.

 

[88chaz88]

I enjoy some Japanese made games, but most of them are shite. Final Fantasy X was good and I love any Sonic game before Sonic Adventure 2, and Panzer Dragoon Saga is absolutely fantastic, but that's about it.

 

[teebeeohh]

(snip)...Vanquish are third person shooters, and they're also both terrible in fundamental ways.

vanquish was awesome, you can punch out robots the size of houses. And the robots 1-up the big daddies by having 2 drills for hands.

OT: i am annoyed by not being able to do stuff a lot in Japanese games but i played mgs1 as a kid and have developed a high tolerance for endless cutscenes and unless i have to do QTEs i use the time to clean up my gaming space while listening to the extensive exposition.

i will not list every every Japanese game i like because i think there is a limit on how long the posts can be but i generally like a select few JRPGs, stuff that is like DMC and whatever suda 51 does. But to balance this i haven't touched a game in one of Nintendos core franchises since i was forced to play super smash brothers something(the one for the game cube).

oh and i like the mgs series but i don't know why. I had hoped 4 would somehow wrap up the story but the only answer i got was: nanomachines.

 

[ChupathingyX]

Dynasty Warriors 4 is one of my all time favourite games.

The Dynasty Warriors series in general has a special place in my heart and Dynasty Tactics 2 is the best turn-based gameplay I've ever played and the multiplayer is a blast with one of my mates.

Also the Dino Crisis games on PS1 were very fun and had some great moments in them.


Those are probably my favourite Japanese games, and basically the only experience I have with them.

Also I'm really considering getting No More Heroes: Heroes Paradise.

 

[Palademon]

Am I the only person thinking "So, you don't like Mario, either?"?

EDIT: Wait, I can word this better. "So, does this mean you don't like Mario?"

I myself don't care at all of the differences between western and japanese and I find saying I don't like one of those categories to be a massive generalisation.

 

[AyreonMaiden]

You picked the wrong Yakuza to start with...Y3 is great, but the first two have a more instantaneous payoff at the start. Y3 was infamously slow to begin.

I adore Yakuza, though. Also Zelda, Mario, Metroid, the usuals. But I love Atlus' SMT games, Radiant Historia, all of Suda51's stuff...Yeah, I love Japanese games.

 

[Pedro The Hutt]

Am I the only person thinking "So, you don't like Mario, either?"?

EDIT: Wait, I can word this better. "So, does this mean you don't like Mario?"

I myself don't care at all of the differences between western and japanese and I find saying I don't like one of those categories to be a massive generalisation.

Beat me to it.

That said, both East and West have both awesome and terrible developers and everything in between, generalising gets you nowhere.

 

[Dr.Panties]

I tend to not like them as well. For one thing, they all have awful menus, or at least all the ones I've played. I mean, I know I shouldn't be this picky, but they have these really cheese-ball things that male sparkles noises every time you highlight something, and it pisses me off.

And the same thing goes for the HUD. And Japanese games seem to love replaying things over and over again for a higher score, complete with ranking after each mission, which I hate with a passion.

On top of all that, they just don't really make games in genres I like. Demon's Souls is styled after a WRPG, but it's also fucking hard in incredibly bullshit ways. Lost Planet and Vanquish are third person shooters, and they're also both terrible in fundamental ways.

Ha ha...oh, you dislike Demon's Souls AND Vanquish? Is it just widdle tooo hardy-wardy-woo-woo- for you, little fella? Hmmm? Just a widdle too difficult, hmmm? No auto-aim or pop-up tips telling you when to reload your gun and blow your nose? Aawww, widdle fella needs a nap, and to play some Assassin's Creed games where he can just push forward and hold down one button to win. Oh, what a sense of accomplishment! Thank goodness for automated, blatantly obvious, zero-repercussion, homogenised, formulaic, predictable, disposable games! Huzzah! Why even bother innovating or experimenting? Who needs it? Take my money, as I delude myself into thinking that I'm having a good time with something that does nothing to push the medium of gaming forward.

Honestly, this, and the original post, are just bullshit. Grow up. There are fantastic and shithouse games from developers of all nationality. Perhaps you should broaden your perspective, and actually try more than one or two before making blanket statements, such as: "All Japanese games are/have__________.".

Pathetic.

 

[mireko]

so my question is how do you feel about Japaease games? (not just RPG's) are there any you like?

Japaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaenean has a very diverse game industry, your generalization doesn't really make any sense. What about Dmaenonaeson's Sioajepspuls? What about the Shaeoldn Maerhgneaemi Tarneaisei series? What about aheviery afevuccking acarcade gmae ever?

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Ok, I'm done now.

 

[Dr.Panties]

so my question is how do you feel about Japaease games? (not just RPG's) are there any you like?

Japaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaenean has a very diverse game industry, your generalization doesn't really make any sense. What about Dmaenonaeson's Sioajepspuls? What about the Shaeoldn Maerhgneaemi Tarneaisei series? What about aheviery afevuccking acarcade gmae ever?

Hell, what about Baryonaetarrtnrea? Varnqarsasrkrstjrsktjpntrskhpsxtkrhyghah? MardgbnsireugfbaowsihdroawdfaljwrdokasweFAEg?

Ok, I'm done now.

Yeeais (sic)! Now, let's all go play Homefornt single-player champagne!

 

[AlternatePFG]

Eh, japanese games don't bother me to be honest. I usually hate anime artstyles (Not all of them use it though) but if the game is good, I can get over that.

 

[dimensional]

I generally like games and dont really care where they originate from but that being said there is usually a distinctiveness about a game from japan or from the west if I were to generalise I would say japanese games tend to be more linear but with deeper/more intricate subset systems while western games offer more choice and customisation but less depth in certain aspects of gameplay.
Also nobody does crazy OTT stuff quite like the japanese sometimes it dosent work but when it does its awesome. Saying that I would understand someone generally not liking Japanese games but you dont like a single one? seriously? as has been said if nothing else most people like super mario bros because its amazing.

 

[Ashcrexl]

soooooo, you dont like japanese games based on one game? and it's mostly because you dont like cutscenes?

ok.

 

[seditary]

You played the start of Yakuza 3 and decided you didn't like a whole country's gaming industry?

lol

 

[Vault101]

so my question is how do you feel about Japaease games? (not just RPG's) are there any you like?

Japaeaeaeaeaeaeaeaenean has a very diverse game industry, your generalization doesn't really make any sense. What about Dmaenonaeson's Sioajepspuls? What about the Shaeoldn Maerhgneaemi Tarneaisei series? What about aheviery afevuccking acarcade gmae ever?

Hell, what about Baryonaetarrtnrea? Varnqarsasrkrstjrsktjpntrskhpsxtkrhyghah? MardgbnsireugfbaowsihdroawdfaljwrdokasweFAEg?

Ok, I'm done now.

I not trying to say "all" japanease games are like this

but I often notcice thease subtle differences,perhaps I just havnt been exposed to the diversity

 

[Hypertion]

you realize sonic is jap and so is mario?

 

[Vault101]

soooooo, you dont like japanese games based on one game? and it's mostly because you dont like cutscenes?

ok.

no I like cutscenes, its just NOW I understand the Idea of "cut-scene" overkill, I dont feel that they are utalised very well

what I saying is that there are a few general things Ive seen in some japanease games that Im not a fan of

are ALL japanease games like this? probably not...

 

[Aris Khandr]

Katamari Damacy. That one is so delightfully strange, only the Japanese could produce it. And it is amazing.