Jack and Calumon Reviews Evangelion 2.22: You Can (Not) Advance

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Warning: This review may contain what some people may classify as mild spoilers. They won't ruin the film, but if you want to watch it knowing nothing, please read only the final paragraph.

[HEADING=1]Evangelion 2.22: You Can (Not) Advance[/HEADING]​

And so I reach the end of all things Evangelion at this time. I could do the manga if I had more money for all the books, so I won't, and I could do the Death and Rebirth film, but I struggled with Evangelion 1.11 since that was the same thing as the start of Evangelion, so a movie dedicated to retelling the entire story a little bit seems kind of pointless to talk about. But now, we have Evangelion 2.22, the second film in our brand new Rebuild continuity. This film is a film that is dividing some of the fans (like Evangelion fans need any more to be divided about, like dub quality, the significance of some elements and even Shinji himself), and it's not hard to see why, because this is something that is shaking every thing we knew about the series.


Damn, he knows he is the sharpest looking mecha right now.
The film takes place after the first, and it's much of the same plot. Shinji is still fighting the angels with Rei and NERV, but now they have their new pilot on the scene, Asuka Langely Shinkinami (Yes, changed from Asuka Langely Soryu, to make sure all the leading ladies have rhyming last names, essentially) and so they are all going to team up and fight the angels together. While this is a basic plot summary, the film wastes no time telling it's story this time and in the first few seconds of the film, we are introduced to a new Evangelion pilot who never existed in any other continuity, Mari Illustrious Makinami. The fact we have a new pilot grabs the story and changes it a drastic amount already, but more surprises lie in store in wait. This film changes a lot, so the criticism of the first film, that it is too similar to the series, no longer apples. If it wasn't for the titular characters, buzzwords and mechs, you might not even recognise that this is Evangelion.

With the changes to the story also come changes to the characters themselves, hinted at slightly in the last film but now totally prominent and in your face. Shinji and Rei appear to be the characters with the most change in them. I won't say how, but I found that the changes fitted with characters perfectly, even though they were incredibly drastic. Rei's change of voice actor is something that can now be thanked for in the English dub, as the new voice actor fits the role much better with the changes, compared to the monotone that the original one brought. Even Spike Spencer's less whiny tone in voicing Shinji helps his character in this continuity.

Oh yes, the voice acting in this is brilliant, but also exists in the rare bizarre dimension where I feel that the English voice acting is better than the Japanese voice acting. This is mainly for the sole reason that there are parts where English is spoken in both versions. While the Japanese voice cast did hire some English voice actors, and for Mari they hired someone who could speak both well, there is a god damn near incomprehensible moment from one character from the original series, who can speak English about as eloquently as a hippo can tap dance. When he says "Good luck" it sounds more like "Ker bleh". The performances are great, all in all, though remember in the last review I noted that Fuyutsuki and Gedno sounded similar in the English version? This flags up again, and since there are a few times where you can't see whose lips are moving, you can only hazard best guesses on which one of them is speaking. Not a major problem though, after all, at least you can understand what they're saying.


Something tells me this stairway is going to get very crowded.
I've been dancing around a major point for a few paragraphs now, so let me just say that the actions scenes in this are probably some of the best I've seen on film, with the penultimate fight being a standout that actually feels like it's emulating Gurren Lagann in some ways, and if a film that is based off the series that depressed people critically everywhere starts to take pointers from the series that inspired people everywhere, then you won't hear many objections from me.

Not from me, but certainly from others. The divide in fan base is caused by two reasons, with the fights being one of them. Some argue that the fights don't suit Evangelion, that they are actually more suited to the aforementioned Gurren Lagann than they are to Eva. The other reason they are divided is because they argue that the changes are destroying the precious canon of Evangelion, warping it so that events that we know in later moments or even in End of Evangelion, may never happen. There are arguments against this, like "This was not meant to be a shoot by shoot remake" and "Stop complaining you insufferable elitist" but there are much more compelling arguments which I can't say because of spoilers, but their complaints basically boil down to how the story is not just retelling what we already know and that some of the fights are just too cool.

The reason why the fights look so damn cool is because animation and art, both hand drawn and CG both compliment them, making them super sharp and beautiful, and the soundtrack is doing what it does best, which is remaking the original soundtrack and blast it at us so much that we fall out of our chairs in awe and amazement. Even the new songs sound so good that I thought my ears were just going to detach themselves and live next to soundtrack until the end of time. What I found most shocking in terms of the animation was that the CG never gets in the way of the hand drawn animation, which is brilliant and shows that the animation department knew what they were doing. What's more, it seems they even got an even bigger budget to make this movie, probably from the success of the first film, so in a change of tone completely from what Evangelion is accustomed to, the animation is so far getting better as we go through this series.

I am struggling to find things to hate, dislike or even to object to in this film, and there are so many things I want to talk about, even something that could be earth shattering to the very series that started this, despite this is apparently a new continuity. All in all, this is a fantastic film, and one that no-one should miss. People who never watched the original series and instead went straight to these movies will find that there is a lot to take in terms of story, but rest assured that there are a lot of elements that even the most knowledgeable of Evangelion geeks can not decipher. This film cements the fact that the series should remain to be watched, as Hideaki Anno may just start the anime event of a lifetime...again.
 

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Hm. Maybe I'll have to give this a chance.
I've not watched it yet after EoE and the main series was just so damn draining but this might be worth it if it isn't too much of an emotional wreck. >.>
Great review though and I'm glad to see more talk of Eva
I like your layout here as well. I might just have to steal it admire it... yes. That's what I meant.

Also, I'm probably completely inept here but I never got which of the films go in order.
There's EoE, Rebirth, Death, Revival, You are (Not) Alone and You Can (Not) Advance as far as I'm aware. >.>
Which were just the rehashes of the main series or ones that should be seen?
 

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I am very much among the dislikers.

I appreaciate this movie, but only on a superficial level. All the little tweaks to the established designs, all the tech, it looked absolutely fenomenal. I adored the fight scenes, especially the last one. And the scene of which you posted that pic of EVA 01 running across the elevated track with the city flying by on the foreground had me picking my law off the floor.

But the story was terrible and the depiction of the characters left much to be desired...

In the series every Angel served a significant purpose and had a real threat to it. Making the first 2 Angels in Rebuild 2 throw-away monsters for the introduction of Mari and Asuka kinda ruins their image of doom bringers.

And Mari herself served no purpose whatsoever. I don't mind them adding a new character to the story, I really don't, but have them be part of the story and create some emotional ties. All Mari does is show up at the beginning, show up at the middle, and then show up at the end, without adding anything story wise.

And then there was that shameless fanservice scene with Asuka in the revealing plugsuit. And all the while she's talking about some deep cathartic revelation, which lacks all impact because of what she's wearing.

I did sorta like that small symbolic image of Asuka's doll in the tupperware box right after she was hospitalized.

Everything else I dislike about Rebuild 2 basically stems from my interpretation of the original show.

Oh, and a chunk of the music in Rebuild 2 was lifted straight out of His and Her Circumstances (another Gainax show), which just smacks of laziness seeing as they had a considerable budget.

And Japanese Kaji's english delivery was indeed like listening to someone's tongue being scrambled.
 

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Julianking93 said:
Hm. Maybe I'll have to give this a chance.
I've not watched it yet after EoE and the main series was just so damn draining but this might be worth it if it isn't too much of an emotional wreck. >.>

Also, I'm probably completely inept here but I never got which of the films go in order.
There's EoE, Rebirth, Death, Revival, You are (Not) Alone and You Can (Not) Advance as far as I'm aware. >.>
Which were just the rehashes of the main series or ones that should be seen?
Okay, it goes series, then the death film (Which is the series again), then re-birth (Which is the first part of End), End (Which is the first and second part of end, but the second part's debut, Revival (Which is Death and End together), then you have the rebuild films, You are (Not) Alone and You can (Not) advance.

Give them a watch. As the title implies, it's all about rebuilding what Evangelion destroyed, like the mecha genre and your mind. Trust my opinion, they help. FLCL and Gurren Lagann couldn't snap me out of a months long Eva depression, but this has shown me something beautiful.

Watch it, good medicine.
Casual Shinji said:
In the series every Angel served a significant purpose and had a real threat to it. Making the first 2 Angels in Rebuild 2 throw-away monsters for the introduction of Mari and Asuka kinda ruins their image of doom bringers.

And Mari herself served no purpose whatsoever. I don't mind them adding a new character to the story, I really don't, but have them be part of the story and create some emotional ties. All Mari does is show up at the beginning, show up at the middle, and then show up at the end, without adding anything story wise.

And then there was that shameless fanservice scene with Asuka in the revealing plugsuit. And all the while she's talking about some deep cathartic revelation, which lacks all impact because of what she's wearing.

I did sorta like that small symbolic image of Asuka's doll in the tupperware box right after she was hospitalized.

Everything else I dislike about Rebuild 2 basically stems from my interpretation of the original show.
Okay, I see your point. I'd argue that the 3rd Angel does still show it's fearsomeness. Mari was really struggling, and won by the skin of her teeth. the 7th Angel however, I agree. Not all that scary, especially considering it's design. Asuka took it down no sweat. The entire thing was trivial. I guess the other angels made up for it though, especially the 8th and 10th.

Mari does seem to make little impact. Okay, she takes Unit 2 and gives Shinji a confidence boost, but she needs to have an actual purpose in the next film, or she's just wasting time. Still, does build up a basis for her personality, and I suppose Anno wants to take his time.

Eh, the Fanservice serves as a warning to me. Even in the series, I could tell that when fanservice shown up, something bad was going to happen. Does all the time.

Finally, a quick point to you personally. You seem to be a fan of Eva, a considerable one and formulate complex opinions and interpretations of it's elements. I disagree with a few of them, like how I think Gendo said "Truly, I needed you." to Ritsuko in End, but I was curious to how you would talk about Rebuild and concerning the alarming elements to it for Evangelion fans.

Have you heard the main theory involving the Rebuild series?

It's that the series is a sequel. It would explain why the sea is red, why the moon has a blood stain (From Lilith/Rei's blood), why there was that outline in the Tokyo 3 area in Evangelion 1.11, why Kaworu seems to have an awareness of Shinji and events of NGE and why Second Impact here looks like Third Impact in End.

This would also explain why the series seems to not fit in with what you talked about, your interpretation. Mari's existence, the depiction of the characters, they're all here after the End, after the New Beginning.

Just wondering your thoughts on that. You seem like a good person to talk to about that.
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
Casual Shinji said:
In the series every Angel served a significant purpose and had a real threat to it. Making the first 2 Angels in Rebuild 2 throw-away monsters for the introduction of Mari and Asuka kinda ruins their image of doom bringers.

And Mari herself served no purpose whatsoever. I don't mind them adding a new character to the story, I really don't, but have them be part of the story and create some emotional ties. All Mari does is show up at the beginning, show up at the middle, and then show up at the end, without adding anything story wise.

And then there was that shameless fanservice scene with Asuka in the revealing plugsuit. And all the while she's talking about some deep cathartic revelation, which lacks all impact because of what she's wearing.

I did sorta like that small symbolic image of Asuka's doll in the tupperware box right after she was hospitalized.

Everything else I dislike about Rebuild 2 basically stems from my interpretation of the original show.
Okay, I see your point. I'd argue that the 3rd Angel does still show it's fearsomeness. Mari was really struggling, and won by the skin of her teeth. the 7th Angel however, I agree. Not all that scary, especially considering it's design. Asuka took it down no sweat. The entire thing was trivial. I guess the other angels made up for it though, especially the 8th and 10th.

Mari does seem to make little impact. Okay, she takes Unit 2 and gives Shinji a confidence boost, but she needs to have an actual purpose in the next film, or she's just wasting time. Still, does build up a basis for her personality, and I suppose Anno wants to take his time.

Eh, the Fanservice serves as a warning to me. Even in the series, I could tell that when fanservice shown up, something bad was going to happen. Does all the time.

Finally, a quick point to you personally. You seem to be a fan of Eva, a considerable one and formulate complex opinions and interpretations of it's elements. I disagree with a few of them, like how I think Gendo said "Truly, I needed you." to Ritsuko in End, but I was curious to how you would talk about Rebuild and concerning the alarming elements to it for Evangelion fans.

Have you heard the main theory involving the Rebuild series?

It's that the series is a sequel. It would explain why the sea is red, why the moon has a blood stain (From Lilith/Rei's blood), why there was that outline in the Tokyo 3 area in Evangelion 1.11, why Kaworu seems to have an awareness of Shinji and events of NGE and why Second Impact here looks like Third Impact in End.

This would also explain why the series seems to not fit in with what you talked about, your interpretation. Mari's existence, the depiction of the characters, they're all here after the End, after the New Beginning.

Just wondering your thoughts on that. You seem like a good person to talk to about that.
Yeah, I have heard about that theory.

I doubt it was Gainax's real goal to make it a sequel, I think it was just them throwing the fans of the original show a bone. I might change my tune though depending what happens in the next 2 movies.

The original show was always very hazy, but that's why I love it; You can see many different things in it and it never really leaves your mind.

As for how I see the original; Everything revolves around Shinji becoming a self-defining individual. Everything!!!

The first half of the show is him becoming defined by all the people around him, and the second half is each of these people being stripped from him one by one. The whole point behind Evangelion (IMO) is human interaction. Shinji needs to understand that you need other people in your life, but that you should also not become totally depended on them. You need to risk opening yourself up to let people in, but also accept that loved ones come and go. The whole show was basically one big therapy of global proportions.

Many things that happen in the show make no sense in a logical state of affairs, but they do for the sake of Shinji's developement.

Like when Shinji and Asuka need to synchronize their attacks to defeat the Angel. You see that Shinji syncs up with Rei perfectly, yet it is decided that it should be Asuka. The reason for this is because Rei is a fantasy figure, literally, which would only cause Shinji to remain closed off. The 3 main female characters are each a portayal of one aspect of womanhood. Or of how men perceive women.

- Misato is the "mother".
- Rei is the "fantasy".
- Asuka is the "reality".

Out of these 3 it is Asuka who is best suited for Shinji because she represents the (uncomfortable) reality of woman. She's in your face, rude, obnoxious, pissed off, and generally a *****. She also has her period, which is also seen as one of those uncomfortable women issues.
But this is just what Shinji needs. He doesn't need a mother or a fantasy, he needs reality. Where as with Misato and Rei he has a comfort zone to cling to, with Asuka he has nothing and is therefor forced to change in order to deal with her.

In EoE where Shinji screams and cries for people to not hate him, Asuka looks at him with disdain and says "no". Normally in a situation like this Shinji would simply whimper off to his room in defeat, but now he doesn't. He lunges at Asuka and attacks her. Asuka forces Shinji into a corner untill there's no other altenative but to break out of his shell and go right through her.

......Hmm, I kinda forgot where I was going with this. I guess that's what NGE does to me.

Long story short, the Rebuild movies feel bled dry of all the tasty chaotic human interacting and introspection that the series had.
 

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so ... as some one who found Eva ... lets say 'grossly over hyped' ... to be nice ....

take to this one? more importantly, will i want to leap into the screen and strangle Shinji after 2 minutes.
 

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The first time I saw Evangelion 2.22, I was so impressed that I watched it again with my friend the same day. It wasn't until I finished the series itself, and read up on some of the problems people had with the film, that I realized that yeah, some of what made the original tv series so memorable was heavily diluted in Rebuild.

Then I realized something that drastically changed my opinion of the film. Evangelion 2.22 is not just a blockbuster rendition of the original. Evangelion 2.22 is a major blockbuster film about failure.

Mari, the designated Mary Sue character, takes on two Angels with an all-new EVA in the first instance and a game-breaking alternate mode in the second. The first time she only wins by the skin of her teeth, and the second time she is completely destroyed. Asuka learns to open up to people, and becomes a better person as a result. Her reward is to be mind-raped by an Angel and then grievously wounded by Shinji. Rei attempts to bring Shinji and his father closer together. Her efforts come to naught, and not only does she fail to defeat Zeruel at the end but Zeruel consumes her, enabling it to enter Terminal Dogma.

Then you have Shinji, whose attempts to save Rei at the end almost bring about the end of the world. He doesn't care about that, of course. But then Kaworu comes out of nowhere and impales him, and so in the end he couldn't even do that.

It's things like this that give me hope that Hideaki Anno's still got it. Could the next film plunge the Rebuild series into even darker waters? We'll just have to wait and see!

Also, note:
Regarding the time-loop theories on the net, the third film is apparently titled You Can (Not) Redo. Also, something stood out to me in the booklet found in the DVD case of the first Rebuild film: the introduction states that the Rebuild films are about people being beaten down by impossible odds, over and over again, and each time standing up and choosing to fight...