Possibly Freakazoid teaches us why prisoners shouldn't have computers, but I think the better answer here is that only the ones that look like there's any real hope should get 'em.
hey the ps1 had some great games on it. i say give him a wii and real steel 1luvd1 said:How's this. Give him a pc but make it use dial up only and give him a psone?
Or better yet, a PSVita. /sarcasmluvd1 said:How's this. Give him a pc but make it use dial up only and give him a psone?
Prisons (at least in oz and the uk) are not about punishment but rehabilitation, and the reward system is central too this. (they are also the only place you can get a university degree for freeSonOfVoorhees said:Wow, has prisoners ever heard of punishment? If he hadnt of killed people he would have been free to play playstation all he wanted. But he commited a crime and thus has lost those freedoms.
They have to give him the right to be heard otherwise you'd have a gestapo camp. Besides if he is correct about others getting computers then they have to also give him one unless there's a valid reason not to (and no his crime as bad as it was isn't one).Desert Punk said:...Why is the court even hearing him?
I would take one look at his suit and go "Hey, didnt you go on that shooting rampage? HAH, lawsuit denied." Maybe even have the bailiff smack him upside the head for good measure.
Ours is very similar Sweden/Denmark/whichever country, prisons are for rehabilitation rather than punishment. UK is like that too afaik, it seems that the US is the only country left in the old system, one of many areas that needs modernization over there.Kalezian said:I think it is either Sweden, Denmark, or Norway where their prisoners get near absolute free roam of the 'prision', which is more like a farming commune.Deu Sex said:Now isn't that peculiar? I wonder what the jail's reasoning for that might be? Hmm...maybe, it has something to do with the fact YOU SHOT TWENTY-SIX PEOPLE"I'm the only prisoner who has made applications to have a computer who has had it denied and denied repeatedly."
only a handful of their total prisoners in the country have severe restriction, but for the most part the convicts are not repeat offenders. The reason being is that they treat them like human beings, their 'cells' are actually spacious, and until lights out they can pretty much be productive all day. taking classes, taking up hobbies, watching Arsenal get beat every other game, the same as people on the outside.
except, you know, leaving for the day, which only a select few are able to do.
Compare it to the 8x10 concrete blocks the US has, along with over crowding, rampant gang influence, ect. and people wonder why rehabilitation doesn't work [in the US.]
cant say how it is in Australia, or the UK for that matter, but maybe we can learn to start rehabilitation than "you are a criminal, stay here for a few years and then we will let you back out."
this, coming from a guy in a State where if you murder someone, we will murder you right back.
Mass shootings in Australia are enormous news as they rarely ever happen. I think the last one was in 2002 at Monash Uni. These are essentially our biggest criminals, and we have 99.9999% proof that this guy committed the Hoddle Street massacre; as such, he doesn't deserve to live. However, it is a greater insult to him that he does live and see all the things he misses out on (the internet predominantly) as an example to others who may try such heinous acts.sneakypenguin said:I never understoood why you'd keep prisoners from technology. All that free time you could get 4-8 bachelor degress in a 10 year sentence etc or come out of prison actually skilled in something. Having internet access in this case is important in an appeal/prep for hearing there really is no reason he shouldn't have one regardless of how slim a chance of being granted parole.
Giving them such things would at least help if ever released. Instead of the US where we toss them in a8x10 in a gang rich environment and the release them with no support and expect them to adapt to society where they cant get a job .
I know someone from back in high school who finished Crash Bandicoot without a memory card by living their PSOne on.CriticalMiss said:They should give him a PS1 with as many games as he wants, but no memory card or controllers. If he asks for them then say he has already made demands once, he can wait another twenty five to ask again.
I think that for a crime of this caliber, only Superman on the Nintendo 64 will thoroughly do as a proper punishment. And if he still complains after that, make him play Alex the Kid three hours a day.mrm5561 said:hey the ps1 had some great games on it. i say give him a wii and real steel 1luvd1 said:How's this. Give him a pc but make it use dial up only and give him a psone?
Internet was around since 60s.008Zulu said:Apparently he has never heard of books, which predate the internet. As does his crime.
I think what you dont understand that happy prisoners do a crime again not because they are evil or bad, but to get to jail. because life in jail is better than a life on the outside. thats how well jail inmates are treated. heck they spend twice as much on inmate food than on children food in schools. does a guy that murdered that many people really deserve to be given more luxuries than 80% of law abiding citizens can afford?SadisticFire said:I think some people don't understand that happy prisoners are likely to turn into happy citizens.
Books have been around for more than 1,000 years.Strazdas said:Internet was around since 60s.008Zulu said:Apparently he has never heard of books, which predate the internet. As does his crime.
I dont deny that. merely fixing up the incorrect statement that his crime predates internet.008Zulu said:Books have been around for more than 1,000 years.Strazdas said:Internet was around since 60s.008Zulu said:Apparently he has never heard of books, which predate the internet. As does his crime.
As a viable source of information, not until the 90's.Strazdas said:I dont deny that. merely fixing up the incorrect statement that his crime predates internet.
You did not specify that though. You said his crime predates internet, which is factually incorrect, so i fixed it, being OCD and all. did not expect it to turn into a debate.008Zulu said:As a viable source of information, not until the 90's.Strazdas said:I dont deny that. merely fixing up the incorrect statement that his crime predates internet.