So true. ^^Sean Hollyman said:
Actually, I think it has to do with the short Japanese attention span. They have to crank everything up to eleven to try to keep viewer attention.
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Actually, I think it has to do with the short Japanese attention span. They have to crank everything up to eleven to try to keep viewer attention.
You could have just posted an image of your avatar in response to the OP and I would have agreed. The way I see it, this thread wants to do nothing but start a rather weak flame war. It'd be like play sword-fighting with a pair of lit matches. Pathetic.Innegativeion said:
OT: I too, disagree. As stated, "cool" is subjective. Therefore, different from person to person. I like quite a few game characters created from other countries than Japan. Prime examples are Liberty Prime (Fallout 3), Emile (Halo: Reach), and Spyro the Dragon.
Woah woah woah woah woah... Ok, now last time I checked, Rainbow Dash came from America. And NOPONY is cooler than Rainbow Dash.
I'm forced to disagree good sir.
I'm forced to disagree good sir.
Japan makes annoying Angsty teenagers with Spiked hair and Emotional and very annoying Americans make well..they make many stuff you just got to look deeper..? I don't know i don't pay attention to Much Television anymore...
Ok, don't mock the Desu, its awesome!Drakmeire said:
for my actual contribution to the topic, It comes down on people's opinions on preferred character archetypes. People who enjoy western media(im mostly working with games here) prefer the stoic, determined badass that's more rough around the edges and usually antisocial. Eastern Characterization tends to focus on being open to your companions and the development of understanding and emotional bonds, eventually forming a solid 'nakama.' That's why people say JRPG characters are whiny emos, because they actually talk about and reflect on their pasts within the narrative. Their Western counterparts mostly do so in extended universe material (the halo novels being a prime example), leaving a blank-slate for personality within the game itself.
In the end, which characters are cooler comes down to the person's opinion of strength, or how much personality plays into your opinions on a character. If your idea of strength is being able to persevere against impossible odds and personal tragedy with bloody-minded determination, showing no weakness, then most western characters are cooler, and the lack of back story leaves a mystery factor that most eastern characters don't have...which gives them an innate cool factor. As for eastern fans, the ability to show their insecurities and weakness is a strength in and of itself. Their well developed personalities add depth that most fans find interesting, and in many ways, half the point of the game is learning more about them, and watching them grow. A broody depressed anti-hero might evolve into a true hero that has learned to get close to teammates and comrades and place their trust in them; isn't that a transformation worth watching?
That and some just love Gurran-Laggan style over-the-topness, its all a matter of preference.
I counter your tidus with Auron, who's sheer win counters all the fail of his dumbass companionRawne1980 said:
What I think Japan has is a little bit of crazy. I mean, some of the stuff they come out with is so stupid, and then other stuff they come out with that conceptually is just awesome.
I wouldn't say that they're characters are very interesting. They look cool, but the second they open their mouths, it starts going downhill.
xD.
This is my opinion.
I wouldn't say that they're characters are very interesting. They look cool, but the second they open their mouths, it starts going downhill.
xD.
This is my opinion.
I'm off the same mindset.Cheery Lunatic said:
While I will admit that the West (well at least America) has a tendency to use the 'brunette, slightly-bearded white guy' as a protagonist an awful lot, that doesn't mean that Japan's characters are suddenly better.
Over-the-top-ness doesn't equal cool. It can very easily make it look like you're trying too hard. I don't always want characters with kooky-crazy clothes, wacky over-the-top personality, stupidly powerful fight scenes, and power-levels that continually go higher every episode (despite them all being capable of destroying galaxies already). Sometimes I just want an average joe with a gun plugging away at some not too powerful enemy.
There are good characters both Eastern and Western, everyone has their preferences, OP seems to prefer Eastern, and even though he put it horribly, he can still have his opinion.
And I prefer Western.....still looking for that discussion value, though.
And I prefer Western.....still looking for that discussion value, though.
Did Japan make Gir? Was Doc Holiday Japanese? Was Mad Max made in Japan? Was Batman made in Japan? Was Tin-Tin a Japanese invention?
No, no, no, no, and NO! So can we please shut up about Japan making cooler/more bad ass/better things than the rest of the world.
Actually on second thought can we just shut up about any place making cooler/more bad ass/better things than the rest of the world?
No, no, no, no, and NO! So can we please shut up about Japan making cooler/more bad ass/better things than the rest of the world.
Actually on second thought can we just shut up about any place making cooler/more bad ass/better things than the rest of the world?
Whoa, way to completely ignore every piece of literature, film, and electronic entertainment that has ever come out of every country ever.
If we're just talking about video games, The whole cast of both bioshocks were really interesting characters, especially the second one with that dad who went down to rapture to save his daughter, they did so much character development pre-release that when you saw him in his new form it was a REALLY emotional moment. That's just one example.
Comparing non-Japanese comics to Manga, you get Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Batman, etc, VS well, I have limited exposure to Manga and anime, but from what I've seen the characters are always very two dimensional and their growth is always a growth in power rather than psychological or emotional development.
The characters in a lot of Japanese media seem to be pretty camp in their motivations.
Also film? The film industry being completely dominated by the west for a very long time and almost every great movie character in history has been non-Japanese.
However, I don't want to turn it into a comparison of west vs east, because if we alienate one side we don't get to enjoy the significant contributions. Art is art, from any country.
If we're just talking about video games, The whole cast of both bioshocks were really interesting characters, especially the second one with that dad who went down to rapture to save his daughter, they did so much character development pre-release that when you saw him in his new form it was a REALLY emotional moment. That's just one example.
Comparing non-Japanese comics to Manga, you get Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Batman, etc, VS well, I have limited exposure to Manga and anime, but from what I've seen the characters are always very two dimensional and their growth is always a growth in power rather than psychological or emotional development.
The characters in a lot of Japanese media seem to be pretty camp in their motivations.
Also film? The film industry being completely dominated by the west for a very long time and almost every great movie character in history has been non-Japanese.
However, I don't want to turn it into a comparison of west vs east, because if we alienate one side we don't get to enjoy the significant contributions. Art is art, from any country.