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RevRaptor said:
wootsman said:
resident evil was originally a fps
No it wasn't, it was a 3rd person horror game. There's never been a resident evil fps dude.
No it wasn't it was a fixed camera viewing a pre-rendered background with a character model laid over the top.

Resident Evil 4 was the first one to be a Third Person game.

Also, Dude, there was a FPS Resident Evil - Resident Evil Survivor, which was compatible with the gun periphreal for PS2(or X?), it had a DPAD where the hammer would be that allowed you to navigate in full 3D. That makes it a true FPS, and not an on-rails shooter like Dead Spae Extraction or House of the Dead
 

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The Shin Megami Tensei games on DS, those after Devil Survivor. Not actual 3D, where you move as you please and so on (you move on squares and while you can rotate, it's only north, west, east and south), but it's from first person view.
 

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Killer 7 had first person elements but as a whole the game is about as crazy (in a good way) as you can get so it's definitely not for everyone. As for other older games, the obvious choice is the dragon quest series which had first person battles for it's first 7 games...though the overworld is traditional sprite rpg fare.
 

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gideonkain said:
RevRaptor said:
wootsman said:
resident evil was originally a fps
No it wasn't, it was a 3rd person horror game. There's never been a resident evil fps dude.
No it wasn't it was a fixed camera viewing a pre-rendered background with a character model laid over the top.

Resident Evil 4 was the first one to be a Third Person game.

Also, Dude, there was a FPS Resident Evil - Resident Evil Survivor, which was compatible with the gun periphreal for PS2(or X?), it had a DPAD where the hammer would be that allowed you to navigate in full 3D. That makes it a true FPS, and not an on-rails shooter like Dead Spae Extraction or House of the Dead
In RE1 you are looking at you character from a third person view thus its a third person perspective game. RE4 was the first to use an over the shoulder view and survivor and dead aim were light gun games a category all of their own. I've played survivor it's not an fps game by a long stretch.
 

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RevRaptor said:
gideonkain said:
RevRaptor said:
wootsman said:
resident evil was originally a fps
No it wasn't, it was a 3rd person horror game. There's never been a resident evil fps dude.
No it wasn't it was a fixed camera viewing a pre-rendered background with a character model laid over the top.

Resident Evil 4 was the first one to be a Third Person game.

Also, Dude, there was a FPS Resident Evil - Resident Evil Survivor, which was compatible with the gun periphreal for PS2(or X?), it had a DPAD where the hammer would be that allowed you to navigate in full 3D. That makes it a true FPS, and not an on-rails shooter like Dead Spae Extraction or House of the Dead
In RE1 you are looking at you character from a third person view thus its a third person perspective game. RE4 was the first to use an over the shoulder view and survivor and dead aim were light gun games a category all of their own. I've played survivor it's not an fps game by a long stretch.
What are your benchmarks for a fps then? If you could navigate in full 3d, was first person, and it was a shooter what would you call it instead?

If it quacks like a duck...
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil:_Survivor

its a light gun game, I just said that. It uses a light gun therefore its categorised as a light gun shooter. when you encounter the enemies you freeze in place and can't move again intill they are all dead, it's deferentially not an fps. You sir need to learn your games a little better.
It may quack like a duck but it flies like a turkey.
 

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Lost Planet isn't First Person but its Third Person Shooter, and the second/first game were fun.
 

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I don't know if it counts, but Persona 3 Portable is in first person view a lot. It's weird though; the story is unfolded to you in a first person visual novel aspect, the game talks in second person a lot of times, but the dungeon exploring is in third person.
 

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RevRaptor said:
In RE1 you are looking at you character from a third person view thus its a third person perspective game. RE4 was the first to use an over the shoulder view and survivor and dead aim were light gun games a category all of their own. I've played survivor it's not an fps game by a long stretch.
By that definition every game that has a character you can see is a third person game? "Over the Shoulder" IS the 3rd person perspective in videogame terminology.

Super Mario Bros isn't a 3rd person shooter because he has the Fire Flower.

Now you could argue Mario 64, etc. is a third person game, but it isn't a fixed camera - if you want you can play Mario view from the side or bird's eye view.

You also can't claim a lightgun game is en entireley other genre because that would make the Metroid Prime series not a FPS because it used the WiiMote to aim, both WiiMotes and Lightguns used infared beams to work
 

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gideonkain said:
RevRaptor said:
In RE1 you are looking at you character from a third person view thus its a third person perspective game. RE4 was the first to use an over the shoulder view and survivor and dead aim were light gun games a category all of their own. I've played survivor it's not an fps game by a long stretch.
By that definition every game that has a character you can see is a third person game? "Over the Shoulder" IS the 3rd person perspective in videogame terminology.

Super Mario Bros isn't a 3rd person shooter because he has the Fire Flower.

Now you could argue Mario 64, etc. is a third person game, but it isn't a fixed camera - if you want you can play Mario view from the side or bird's eye view.

You also can't claim a lightgun game is en entireley other genre because that would make the Metroid Prime series not a FPS because it used the WiiMote to aim, both WiiMotes and Lightguns used infared beams to work
Nope, Tomb Raider is considered a third person shooter yet the camera very rarely stays behind Lara. A third person camera does not have to stay behind the player. Mario bros is a platform game a well defined gene of game, using it in your argument makes no sense.
Also I'm not saying light gun games/wii games can't be fps games there are some on the wii after all. What I was saying was that resident evil survivor is not an fps game.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_gun_shooter
light gun shooter is a gene of game. That's a fact dude.