Japanese Mayor Wouldn't Hire Johnny Depp

[Scrustle]

WTF? Why would anyone ask whether the mayor of Osaka would hire American celebrities to work for him? That makes zero sense.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Isn't this the same asshole who's trying to ban various forums of hentai and anime, but makes exceptions for written/live-action works that depict the same thing?

You're thinking of Ishihara who, quite ironically, used to write softcore porn novels. Though Hasimoto has called for censorship of certain extreme genres of manga, and he has said that he thinks there should be limits on creative freedom and that Japan "needs a dictatorship."

As soon as lolicon comes into it, I lose all my sympathy. I'm not going to fight any law that wants to see that crap flushed out from the world. Yeah, yeah, censorship is horrible. Call me when they want to censor something that isn't a child porn surrogate.

 

[repeating integers]

Isn't this the same asshole who's trying to ban various forums of hentai and anime, but makes exceptions for written/live-action works that depict the same thing?

You're thinking of Ishihara who, quite ironically, used to write softcore porn novels. Though Hasimoto has called for censorship of certain extreme genres of manga, and he has said that he thinks there should be limits on creative freedom and that Japan "needs a dictatorship."

As soon as lolicon comes into it, I lose all my sympathy. I'm not going to fight any law that wants to see that crap flushed out from the world. Yeah, yeah, censorship is horrible. Call me when they want to censor something that isn't a child porn surrogate.

No, if censorship is bad, then censorship is bad. You can't make exceptions to absolute morals.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Isn't this the same asshole who's trying to ban various forums of hentai and anime, but makes exceptions for written/live-action works that depict the same thing?

You're thinking of Ishihara who, quite ironically, used to write softcore porn novels. Though Hasimoto has called for censorship of certain extreme genres of manga, and he has said that he thinks there should be limits on creative freedom and that Japan "needs a dictatorship."

As soon as lolicon comes into it, I lose all my sympathy. I'm not going to fight any law that wants to see that crap flushed out from the world. Yeah, yeah, censorship is horrible. Call me when they want to censor something that isn't a child porn surrogate.

No, if censorship is bad, then censorship is bad. You can't make exceptions to absolute morals.

Of course you can. Or are you saying we shouldn't censor child pornography? Or what about slander? Libel? Racism? Sexism?

We censor a lot of things.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

I think this man's campaign is taking things too far, but I must admit he does have a point. I wouldn't like to see massive tattoos on staff members at a shop or restaurant and on public servants who are representing the local government, it is inappropriate and gives a bad impression.

 

[repeating integers]

Isn't this the same asshole who's trying to ban various forums of hentai and anime, but makes exceptions for written/live-action works that depict the same thing?

You're thinking of Ishihara who, quite ironically, used to write softcore porn novels. Though Hasimoto has called for censorship of certain extreme genres of manga, and he has said that he thinks there should be limits on creative freedom and that Japan "needs a dictatorship."

As soon as lolicon comes into it, I lose all my sympathy. I'm not going to fight any law that wants to see that crap flushed out from the world. Yeah, yeah, censorship is horrible. Call me when they want to censor something that isn't a child porn surrogate.

No, if censorship is bad, then censorship is bad. You can't make exceptions to absolute morals.

Of course you can. Or are you saying we shouldn't censor child pornography? Or what about slander? Libel? Racism? Sexism?

We censor a lot of things.

First off, I didn't intend to "say" all that - "all censorship is bad all the time" isn't quite what I hold to. However...

Libel, Racism and Sexism should indeed not be censored. Ever heard the phrase "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"? Besides, that way we know to just ignore and/or mock the libeler(new word?)/racist/sexist in question.

Child pornography using real children, meanwhile, is harmful to the children in question, which is why it should be stopped. That's the moral I hold to - something should only be censored if it genuinely causes (or has high potential to cause) actual harm to somebody else. And yes, icky or no, lolicon manga passes that test (assuming it means... what I think it means). With regards to the earlier example, some random preacher saying "Gays/blacks/feminists are bad and should all die!" shouldn't be censored - but somebody saying "I ask my followers to take their guns and KILL GAYS/BLACKS/FEMINISTS!" should result in him being punished or "censored" and forbidden from doing so again, because it could result in death.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

No, if censorship is bad, then censorship is bad. You can't make exceptions to absolute morals.

Something should only be censored if it genuinely causes (or has high potential to cause) actual harm to somebody else.

I'm glad you admit you were wrong, but you are also wrong about libel and slander. You know why we censor those things? Because they do cause harm. If you defame someone's character or lie in writing about their actions, beliefs, personality, etc., etc., you damage their ability to do things like find someone who will hire them to work, and, in certain situations, lying can cause the target a great deal of legal and finical trouble.

So, by your words, seeing as those things do cause harm, they should be censored--and they are indeed censored and against the law.

In short: we censor a lot of things. Don't knee-jerk into a reply with absolute statements and then retract them.

 

[wooty]

Can't argue with culture I guess. I guess its in the same way that I wouldn't want a skin head working for me either. That the nazi kind of skin head of course, not people who are just bald through genetics.

 

[Xanthious]

While I don't totally agree with him I can kind of see where he's coming from. Some tatoos aren't horrible but I've seen some on people that just scream "Janitor For Life!". I know when I have to hire new techs/sales people at my job I could give a shit how good a resume looks if they have a shit ton of visible tatoos they get the obligatory three minute interview and told "we'll be in touch".

 

[WindKnight]

Right-Wingers of all nations seem to pretty damned awful.

It doesn't need to be said how ridiculous this is:

"So you graduated from a celebrated university with a Masters degree and GPA of 6, you volunteer at the hospital and still find time other activities?....Well then I don't see why we wouldn't allow someone like to work her- Oh you have a tattoo on your thigh? Sorry we can't give you the job."

I'm going to Japan in a couple months, I should put on some paint tattoos for giggles.

No, you shouldn't.

Thing is, tattoos are extremely popular with the Yakuza. Gang members adorn their bodies with them and show them off to such a degree that tattoos in Japan are associated with the clans, so this is probably where this man's disdain comes from.

You're often not allowed to have visible tattoos in bathhouses and public pools for this reason. I think this man is speaking out of disdain for the Yakuza without actually saying that, rather than just being a doddery old man.

Helen McCarthy, the editor of an anime related magazine in the UK accidentally sliced the tip of her little finger off while working on the magazine. She noted that to herself, her friends and her colleagues, it was noted on with humour about how she'd literally put her blood, sweat and tears into the magazine. In Japan though, people tended to steer clear of her because it was symbolic of being related to or affiliated with the Yakuza.

 

[likalaruku]

If there's anything we've learned from politics, it's that the more you let the public know you hate something, the more likely you are of being very guilty of the thing you hate. I'll start the countdown until he's exposed to be a skin bleacher with a nipple rings.


I worked for a massive car dealership that took up 6 entire blocks, & I was one of the few employees who didn't have a tattoo. My 2 favorite receptionists were covered in them.

 

[Lord Mountbatten Reborn]

I think this man is speaking out of disdain for the Yakuza without actually saying that, rather than just being a doddery old man.

Spoiler: Doddery old man you say? You may be surprised:

 

[Something Amyss]

I can think of better reasons not to hire Johnny Depp. Guy chews the scenery so bad he could put Godzilla out of a job.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Helen McCarthy, the editor of an anime related magazine in the UK accidentally sliced the tip of her little finger off while working on the magazine. She noted that to herself, her friends and her colleagues, it was noted on with humour about how she'd literally put her blood, sweat and tears into the magazine. In Japan though, people tended to steer clear of her because it was symbolic of being related to or affiliated with the Yakuza.

Postman Pat had to be edited for Japan to give him the normal number of fingers, so it didn't look like he'd had fingers removed for failing the Yakuza in some way.

 

[370999]

I agree with him in regards to a pathological hatred of body art.

Think he is going a bi far but then again as people have said the whole Yakuza element.

 

[AxelxGabriel]

You know, I often hear how Weird Japanese is in their culture and interests, but the ACTUAL Japanese people aren't really actually that weird. It's like they KNOW what weird and wacky is and do it, but they don't really understand WHY it's weird and wacky. Which is why they still seem so backwards compared to the rest of the world.