After going back to their greenlight items, they're all gone. As the matter of fact, all of their games are gone now.
Jim Sterling in court.
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Yep, exactly what they did!FalloutJack said:
Someone at Valve made a comment about this and said "Valve has stopped doing business with Digital Homicide for being hostile to Steam customers."
http://techraptor.net/content/digital-homicides-games-removed-steam
That's it, then. They're done. Their business is officially ruined, 'cause they're gonna be blown out of the water in court and Steam BURNED them.KoalaMan412 said:
Lets just play a little the Devil's Advocate for now....
Correct me if I am wrong, but so far for what I read the developers of Digital Hom. made the decision to sue a specific number of Steam users for any kind of harassments they list in their papers.
So my question is this: Do these specific people indeed created a group in Steam for the whole purpouse only to harass the D.H.?
If this is the case, I think D.H. can safely AT LEAST ask Steam to remove this group.
However I can't justify the money they want....just no....we don't even know what kind people are the majority of the Group. Maybe the most of them are just Children. And we all know how cruel are the children in real life.
Correct me if I am wrong, but so far for what I read the developers of Digital Hom. made the decision to sue a specific number of Steam users for any kind of harassments they list in their papers.
So my question is this: Do these specific people indeed created a group in Steam for the whole purpouse only to harass the D.H.?
If this is the case, I think D.H. can safely AT LEAST ask Steam to remove this group.
However I can't justify the money they want....just no....we don't even know what kind people are the majority of the Group. Maybe the most of them are just Children. And we all know how cruel are the children in real life.
You know what's so funny - with all the crap they tried to pull, this one they can't blame it on Jim. And I betcha anything that those two Judges are now well that they are dealing with 2 nearly identical lawsuits by now.
I want to see that reprimand Romine is SOOOO gonna get.
I want to see that reprimand Romine is SOOOO gonna get.
One thing I've noticed is that people are saying that the judge has issues a subpoena against Valve.
I don't think that has happened yet.
Item 2 of the case log is flagged as MOTION:
In James Romine's case against Jim Sterling, "Motion" is just a bit of paperwork submitted either by James Romine or Jim's lawyers. Sometimes, that's followed up by the court clerk sort of "accepting receipt" of it as "Lodged:". Then sometime after that, an "Order:" entry is added, where the judge has order something based on the Motion. Sometimes that's a "is ordered", sometimes it's an "dismissed".
So I'm pretty sure the thing that everyone is linking as "The judge granted a subpoena" is really just a mock up by James Romine of what he WANTS the court to do.
Edit: Some links....
Pacermonitor (Romine vs Stanton) : https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/10890330/Romine_v_Stanton
Pacermonitor (Romine vs Unknown Steam Users) : https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/19146067/Romine_v_Unknown_Party_et_al
Plainsite (Romine vs Stanton) : http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2y7venbbn/arizona-district-court/romine-v-stanton/
Plainsite (Romine vs Unknown Steam Users) : http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/31r72raqc/arizona-district-court/romine-v-unknown-party-et-al/
US Courts Archive (Romine vs Stanton) : https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/azd/969057/
US Courts Archive (Romine vs Unknown Steam Users) : Not updated yet.
Arizona Court Calendar : http://www2.azd.uscourts.gov/azd/callive.nsf/searchresults/$searchForm?SearchView
(Search for "John J Tuchi" or "Eileen S Willett" to see their schedules for the upcoming week).
I don't think that has happened yet.
Item 2 of the case log is flagged as MOTION:
In James Romine's case against Jim Sterling, "Motion" is just a bit of paperwork submitted either by James Romine or Jim's lawyers. Sometimes, that's followed up by the court clerk sort of "accepting receipt" of it as "Lodged:". Then sometime after that, an "Order:" entry is added, where the judge has order something based on the Motion. Sometimes that's a "is ordered", sometimes it's an "dismissed".
So I'm pretty sure the thing that everyone is linking as "The judge granted a subpoena" is really just a mock up by James Romine of what he WANTS the court to do.
Edit: Some links....
Pacermonitor (Romine vs Stanton) : https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/10890330/Romine_v_Stanton
Pacermonitor (Romine vs Unknown Steam Users) : https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/19146067/Romine_v_Unknown_Party_et_al
Plainsite (Romine vs Stanton) : http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2y7venbbn/arizona-district-court/romine-v-stanton/
Plainsite (Romine vs Unknown Steam Users) : http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/31r72raqc/arizona-district-court/romine-v-unknown-party-et-al/
US Courts Archive (Romine vs Stanton) : https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/azd/969057/
US Courts Archive (Romine vs Unknown Steam Users) : Not updated yet.
Arizona Court Calendar : http://www2.azd.uscourts.gov/azd/callive.nsf/searchresults/$searchForm?SearchView
(Search for "John J Tuchi" or "Eileen S Willett" to see their schedules for the upcoming week).
By the sounds of it, the "group harassment" extends as far as the name: Digital Homicide Poop Gaming (although, I think the name has been shortened to Digital Homicides. Outside of that, they claim to just be a consumer advocacy group dedicated to highlighting some of the shadier aspects of Steam developers. While some of the group being sued might be genuine harasses, I think it was confirmed earlier in the thread that some being targeted are Youtubers who either covered Digihoms games or actions.SweetShark said:
That was something I noticed as well. Since Romine filed it during this week, it's still under review and may take a while depending on the judge's decision. Some judges may continue some frivolous lawsuits to go forward and some will not, so that's something we are not sure about. If the case does go forward, then the court will send the subpoena to Valve and even if it did, Valve might counter it. Not sure how that process would work, but assuming Valve has all of the reports by users in the past as well as information about this lawsuit, then they might use it to counter sue them. Honestly, I don't see this going forward at all because based on the complaint as well as the subpoena he requested, this will get thrown out immediately. For right now, we can assume right now the Romines are in panic mode due to all of their games removed and they might currently trying to reach out to Valve about this. Of course, I don't think Valve going to listen because now that this lawsuit is made in public and have been mentioned in different outlets, they might have already looked into all of DH's past behavior and activity in Steam for almost the past two years.Elwes said:
That's just how I view it and I'm not a legal expert so not sure how this will go. So we might find out around either next week or later about the court's decision.
Digital Homicide has made first official comment on it's blog since its debacle with Valve.http://www.digitalhomicide.ninja/
Couple of extra things....
1. They are beginning to post their games on Amazon.
2.DigiHom is trying to (ONCE AGAIN) crowdfund legal representation - The Paragraph is after the last Screen-cap but before the Itchi.o bundles add...
Romine...
"When someone bothers you on say a platform like Facebook and you find the need to ban them, the Facebook response after you ban is "Sorry you had this experience" and then that person is removed from being able to post on your page. Steam's stance is what just happened to us. By removing us they have taken the stance that users have the right to harass me, tell me I should kill myself, and insult my family . If I try to defend myself against said actions then I lose my family's income. If it wasn't for 2 years of experience of dealing with Steam on a regular basis, this disgusting stance would seem shocking to me. The only thing that prevented me seeking legal counsel for a long list of breach of contracts, interference with business, and anti-trust issues was the fear of losing my family's income. Since that has been taken away I am seeking legal representation. The case will benefit from a long list of organized documentation of events that have happened over the past 2 years including dates, screenshots, emails, and more on over 100 infractions in need of litigation. Legal counsel interested in our case can contact us at" ...
Couple of extra things....
1. They are beginning to post their games on Amazon.
2.DigiHom is trying to (ONCE AGAIN) crowdfund legal representation - The Paragraph is after the last Screen-cap but before the Itchi.o bundles add...
Romine...
"When someone bothers you on say a platform like Facebook and you find the need to ban them, the Facebook response after you ban is "Sorry you had this experience" and then that person is removed from being able to post on your page. Steam's stance is what just happened to us. By removing us they have taken the stance that users have the right to harass me, tell me I should kill myself, and insult my family . If I try to defend myself against said actions then I lose my family's income. If it wasn't for 2 years of experience of dealing with Steam on a regular basis, this disgusting stance would seem shocking to me. The only thing that prevented me seeking legal counsel for a long list of breach of contracts, interference with business, and anti-trust issues was the fear of losing my family's income. Since that has been taken away I am seeking legal representation. The case will benefit from a long list of organized documentation of events that have happened over the past 2 years including dates, screenshots, emails, and more on over 100 infractions in need of litigation. Legal counsel interested in our case can contact us at" ...
"As well as commiting proffessional suicide by taking on a billion-dollar company at the behest of two men who couldn't even afford a lawyer to take on a Youtuber."Gades said:
Really, what sane lawyer would be willing to take on a case like this? And pro-bono at that?
I love how even if you search the company name on Amazon, their stuff gets second billing to completely unrelated books.DoPo said:
I'd like to point out that their GoFundMe thing for Jim is still sitting at $425. There's no way they can afford to keep these lawsuits going, especially if their major source of income was just axed. Unless Romine is dipping into his savings for this, which wouldn't surprise me.Gades said:
This would make for an interesting civil-suit themed Ace Attorney case. These are the kinds of dire, unwinnable cases that Phoenix Wright specializes in. Other than that, I seriously doubt any lawyer is gonna wanna touch this unless they're being paid gobs of money.Mangod said:
How does anyone find the time to watch a 4.5 hour video? o.o;;Gades said:
Amazon isn't nearly as popular for PC games as Steam, AFAIK. And doesn't Amazon just sell Steam/Origin keys for downloads anyway? Last I checked Amazon doesn't let you download a game from, well, Amazon. Unless their Steam Keys are still valid, even if you can't buy the game directly anymore. (Note: I just checked, and DigiHom's games do say "DRM: Steam" on them).