Jim Sterling in court.
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Jim was granted extra time to respond. He either submitted duplicate responses or asked for 2 separate extensions, because only one of those was denied. He was still granted one extension, though.Politrukk said:
So your belief is that these motions are being denied because the judge wants to speed things along?
"Digital Homicide" is already shorthand for "Shitty, lazy developers" with some Youtubers (I remember hearing TotalBiscuit use it, anyway), so there's that. I suspect that the Romines aren't going to stop this shit with Jim until they're no longer physically or legally able to (or until they find a new target), and they're probably taking it out on their families, so it might be best for all parties if they self-terminate.Elwes said:
His motions do seem to have a certain flounder-ing-ness to them. Whatever the reason, he certainly doesn't seem to quite know what he's doing. Romine was probably relieved when Jim's lawyers filed something and he had a "template" to base future motions on. Especially since it seems like he's still trying to argue over the motion to dismiss, despite having given his response already (and not having filed a sur-reply to Jim's reply).Elwes said:
My goodness, has this really been going on for over 2 months now? I think America needs to implement the Pheonix Wright judicial system: court cases, three days. No exceptions!
Hmmm, it seems no one still haven't updated it on plainsite. I see the option for requesting it on there, but not sure if there are some costs to it or a catch here. Also, isn't posting court docs here kind of against the rules here as well as other places since it does have personal information in them? Sorry, I'm still new here and not sure much of how the forum guidelines goes on here.Fsyco said:
The Phoenix Wright court system is a way for the writers to bypass all the paperwork and pre-trial motions associated with actual court cases (plus it adds tension to the plot). Implementing it would be like devising military strategy and policy based on how people play Call of Duty. I don't think the Phoenix Wright series has ever even had a civil case.Drathnoxis said:
I think you would have to pay for it. The way it seems to work is that one person initially pays and then everyone else can look at it.KoalaMan412 said:
The personal info thing hasn't been an issue anywhere, although we've not been actually posting them directly in this forum. I don't know if anyone has used the personal info from the court docs for mischief, but I suspect anyone who wants that info for naughty reasons could get it by other means.
Forget that. I have fallen in love with ClF3 for all my "get things done" bad ideas.Fsyco said:
My favorite quote about the stuff is from an engineer working on the idea of it being the oxidizer of rocket fuel.
EDIT: Spelling. Added quote.
Looks like there is a new update for the case from yesterday:
"RESPONSE in Opposition re:27 MOTION for Leave to File Supplemental Memorandum in Support of Motion/ Amended Motion in Response to Defendant's Motion to Dismiss Original Complaint filed by James Nicholas Stanton. (Hartman, Bradley)"
Also, I'm still familiarizing and new to law, so this is kind of an assumption that I'm seeing so far.
So based on what I'm seeing here, Jim's lawyer wants to deny Romine's Supplemental Memorandum because based on the previous motions that he have done for it, he's been repeating the same arguments from his response to the Motion to Dismiss and cites new cases which from what I can understand, does not relate to Jim's and his lawyer's previous reply (or something like that). Here is the full detail from the recent document:
"Defendant James Nicholas Stanton responds in opposition to Plaintiff's Motion for Leave to File a Supplemental Memorandum in Support of Amended Motion in Response to Defendant?s Motion to Dismiss Original Complaint [Doc. 27].
Plaintiff's motion should be denied because the Supplemental Memorandum [Doc 28] is an impermissible sur-reply. Plaintiff merely repeats arguments already made in response to the Motion to Dismiss and cites new cases not within Defendant?s reply brief. The motion should be denied.
If the Court is inclined to grant the Motion then Defendant respectfully requests leave to
file a response thereto."
"RESPONSE in Opposition re:27 MOTION for Leave to File Supplemental Memorandum in Support of Motion/ Amended Motion in Response to Defendant's Motion to Dismiss Original Complaint filed by James Nicholas Stanton. (Hartman, Bradley)"
Also, I'm still familiarizing and new to law, so this is kind of an assumption that I'm seeing so far.
So based on what I'm seeing here, Jim's lawyer wants to deny Romine's Supplemental Memorandum because based on the previous motions that he have done for it, he's been repeating the same arguments from his response to the Motion to Dismiss and cites new cases which from what I can understand, does not relate to Jim's and his lawyer's previous reply (or something like that). Here is the full detail from the recent document:
"Defendant James Nicholas Stanton responds in opposition to Plaintiff's Motion for Leave to File a Supplemental Memorandum in Support of Amended Motion in Response to Defendant?s Motion to Dismiss Original Complaint [Doc. 27].
Plaintiff's motion should be denied because the Supplemental Memorandum [Doc 28] is an impermissible sur-reply. Plaintiff merely repeats arguments already made in response to the Motion to Dismiss and cites new cases not within Defendant?s reply brief. The motion should be denied.
If the Court is inclined to grant the Motion then Defendant respectfully requests leave to
file a response thereto."
That sounds like the legal equivalent of DH saying "I know you are, but what am I?" and Jim responds with "I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you."KoalaMan412 said:
How'd you get your hands on that document so fast? o.oKoalaMan412 said:
I'd agree with your analysis though. It seems like Romine was trying to file a sur-reply (but not as an actual sur-reply), without raising any new arguments. I imagine the judge (or at least the clerks handling the paperwork) is not amused.
At the very least, this kind of angry, impotent flailing on Romine's part is going to make him look like an idiot in front of the judge, and this kind of grasping might mean that Romine knows this case is almost over (and he's gonna be royally fucked if even only one of those MTD's gets granted).
I actually got it from PacerMonitor and signed up as a free account:Fsyco said:
pacermonitor.com/public/case/10890330/Romine_v_Stanton
I wanted to see how it works. Each document costs around $5 each as a free member, so I just only this one. If you do want to get it without paying $5 for every documents, I can get it to either a plus or professional for $49 and $99 per month, but didn't want to do that.
But yeah, I got really curious (mostly impatient
) to see what's going on here since there were no updates on PlainSite.
At this point there's probably a Chinese family wondering why their garden is beginning to vanish.
Huh. Didn't know you could do that. I might give it a shot, since I'd really like to read Romine's wannabe-sur-reply.KoalaMan412 said:But yeah, I got really curious (mostly impatient
...Reed Spacer said:
Because Romine is digging himself into a hole...? I imagine that he'd burn to death in the mantle before he hit China. Or is he just rummaging through the yards of local Chinese immigrants?
Only tangentially related, but I thought I'd share anyway.
http://mmofallout.com/not-massive-valve-just-struck-down-digital-homicide/#_=_ [Note: At time of posting it's difficult to get to the site, cause Jim linked to it on Twitter]
Valve just dropped the banhammer on a huge chunk of DigiHom's Greenlight submissions. A whole 22 games have been tagged as "incompatible with Greenlight", although that article mentions they have around 40. I find it interesting that this is happening a few months after the lawsuit was filed, and Romine alleged that Valve threatened to totally blacklist them from Steam. Maybe Valve is finally sick of their shit?
http://mmofallout.com/not-massive-valve-just-struck-down-digital-homicide/#_=_ [Note: At time of posting it's difficult to get to the site, cause Jim linked to it on Twitter]
Valve just dropped the banhammer on a huge chunk of DigiHom's Greenlight submissions. A whole 22 games have been tagged as "incompatible with Greenlight", although that article mentions they have around 40. I find it interesting that this is happening a few months after the lawsuit was filed, and Romine alleged that Valve threatened to totally blacklist them from Steam. Maybe Valve is finally sick of their shit?
Here's a cached version of the article: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RjkawNOQaa0J:mmofallout.com/not-massive-valve-just-struck-down-digital-homicide/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=usFsyco said:
This certainly isn't going to help Digital Homicide, but I wonder how much it will really hurt them in court. If Valve were to come out and explicitly state that, in so many words, DH are essentially rip off artists, then yes, that would be a huge blow to the company and its lawsuit. But Valve isn't going to say that. At least I don't think it will.
I still think Sterling's case would benefit greatly from arguing DH is a limited purpose public figure in this case. At virtually every turn, the company has courted the limelight with this ongoing fued and fired back at Sterling after every criticism, using the publicity to its advantage. And if that's the case, then the company would have to prove that Sterling not only published false information but did so maliciously, i.e. he knew the info was false or published it with total disregard for the truth. There's basically no chance DH would win under that burden of proof.
I don't think this would affect the court case itself one way or the other (except Romine's behavior in court). It's only real link to the case is that Romine alleged in his complaint that Steam threatened to ban all DigiHom games for some unspecified reason (although he mentions that he convinced the steam rep he "hadn't done anything illegal").Exley97 said:
Jim's lawyers have already argued that Jim's claims aren't libelous, in addition to "Arizona has no jurisdiction" and "Romine can't sue on behalf of his company". If the judge sides with Jim, the case will be dismissed without going to trial. He'd only have to prove that Romine (not DH, which is a seperate legal entity) is a public figure if this went to trial.
No new court news AFAIK, but there's been some new DigiHom news.
Back in August of 2015, Jim wrote this article. [http://www.thejimquisition.com/steam-vote-rigging-and-shady-connections-the-curious-case-of-bob-middleton/] This predates the ECC Games article by about a month, and documents some of the early suspicions that DH might have been publishing games using fake names. This particular case was just confirmed, since DH just put up Clickerton Gang onto Greenlight. Don't think it's going to affect the court case, especially since DH didn't sue over this article, but it's still interesting nonetheless. Judge might find it odd that these two trade under so many different names, though.
Back in August of 2015, Jim wrote this article. [http://www.thejimquisition.com/steam-vote-rigging-and-shady-connections-the-curious-case-of-bob-middleton/] This predates the ECC Games article by about a month, and documents some of the early suspicions that DH might have been publishing games using fake names. This particular case was just confirmed, since DH just put up Clickerton Gang onto Greenlight. Don't think it's going to affect the court case, especially since DH didn't sue over this article, but it's still interesting nonetheless. Judge might find it odd that these two trade under so many different names, though.