Jimmy Fallon Debuts the Nintendo Switch

[votemarvel]

not really. people take ipads everywhere with them. why not this?

Accessories would be my guess. With the Switch you just have more to lose than with an iPad or even Nintendo's own portable systems. Imagine getting home and finding half your controller has come out of your bag or pocket somewhere.

Not to mention that the Switch is likely to be far more power hungry than a tablet, so people would need to take a charger or portable power bank with them. Yet another thing to carry around and potentially misplace.

I take my GPD XD out with me because it is completely self contained, I'd be too afraid of losing stuff to take the Switch out with me, I can see the only time it would come out of the cradle being if I wanted to carry on gaming while I sat on the toilet.

 

[Yoshi178]

not really. people take ipads everywhere with them. why not this?

Accessories would be my guess. With the Switch you just have more to lose than with an iPad or even Nintendo's own portable systems.

not really. Ipads cost pretty much the same price as consoles do anyway.

Imagine getting home and finding half your controller has come out of your bag or pocket somewhere.

i don't know about you but i'd be MUCH more concerned if i lost a whole expensive ipad or an actual expensive switch tablet compared to if i lost half a controller that probably doesn't even cost half as much as either tablet does....


and if you bother to actually, oh i don't know, LOOK AFTER your expensive technology that shouldn't really be a problem at all in the first place.

Not to mention that the Switch is likely to be far more power hungry than a tablet, so people would need to take a charger or portable power bank with them

Diddums.

You think people don't already do that with their phones and their 3DS's and carry chargers around for them?

 

[votemarvel]

not really. Ipads cost pretty much the same price as consoles do anyway.

I fail to see how that changes the issue of potentially losing accessories?

I don't know about you but I?d be MUCH more concerned if I lost a whole expensive iPad or an actual expensive switch tablet compared to if I lost half a controller that probably doesn't even cost half as much as either tablet does....

You are switching the argument from people not wanting to risk losing to accessories as the reason people would not be keen on using the Switch as a portable system.

No matter the price people are far more likely to take their portable devices out if they don't have to risk losing extras.

Diddums.

You think people don't already do that with their phones and their 3DS's and carry chargers around for them?

Actually they don't. I can't speak for yourself of course but I've lost count of the amount of times I've been asked if I've got a charger on me when I am out, or even when I am at work customers are forever asking if there is a charger available.

People don't tend to take their chargers out with them.

 

[Yoshi178]

not really. Ipads cost pretty much the same price as consoles do anyway.

I fail to see how that changes the issue of potentially losing accessories?

it doesn't. you said you have more to lose by losing an ipad than if you lost a switch when not really when both machines cost around the same price...

I don't know about you but I?d be MUCH more concerned if I lost a whole expensive iPad or an actual expensive switch tablet compared to if I lost half a controller that probably doesn't even cost half as much as either tablet does....

You are switching the argument from people not wanting to risk losing to accessories as the reason people would not be keen on using the Switch as a portable system.

No matter the price people are far more likely to take their portable devices out if they don't have to risk losing extras.

Not everyone is extremely concerned about losing accessories. it sucks when it happens. but people deal with it.

for example. there's always the possibility of losing your headphones when you take your ipod out and about with you, that doesn't stop everyone taking their ipods with them though.


at the end of the day, look after your shit, and you won't lose it. simple.

Diddums.

You think people don't already do that with their phones and their 3DS's and carry chargers around for them?

Actually they don't. I can't speak for yourself of course but I've lost count of the amount of times I've been asked if I've got a charger on me when I am out, or even when I am at work customers are forever asking if there is a charger available.

People don't tend to take their chargers out with them.

Actually, people do. i see shitloads of people carry around portable chargers with them especially at large events like PAX where you're walking around all day never being able to stop and charge.








All you're doing is spouting extremely trivial 1st world problems that really aren't that big of a deal at all in the grand scheme of things.

 

[KissingSunlight]

The Jimmy Fallon clip is pure infomercial cheesiness. I don't think it really revealed anything that the other video did about The Switch.

As for me, until Nintendo expand their game catalogue beyond their overused IP's. I won't be interested in the console. Like other people said, I don't game so much that I need to take a handheld version of the game with me when I'm not home.

 

[xaszatm]

I mean, according to rumors/confirmed sources, these are the current games rumored for the Nintendo Switch

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Out of this list, there are a few games right now that have been confirmed for the Switch:
- Zelda: Breath of the Wild
- Dragon Quest X
- Dragon Quest XI
- Just Dance 2017
- Sonic 2017
- Nobunaga's Ambition 2017
- Lego City Undercover
- Steamworld
- Yooka-Laylee
- Silver Case

So, at the very least, they aren't making the same mistakes as the Wii U.

OT: Jimmy Fallon isn't that interesting but it's nice to finally see the console in action. It does seem to be more powerful than the Wii U (no surprise there) but there isn't enough information now for actual specs.

 

[gorfias]

One thing is certain: there will probably be a lot of these in school annoying teachers.

"Ok everyone put away yer damn Switches now!!!

or,

"Everyone switch off dem damn Switches now!!!"

 

[meiam]

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Aren't they?Looking at the list there's almost no game that's exclusive for it and 3rd party game that will be multi platform will play much much better on other console, so its hard to see people interested in 3rd party game grabbing a switch (unless they don't know its a weaker console). The console weakness will also stop it from getting all the 3rd party game, I just don't see anyone piking this up over a PS4/XB1... Beside the wii U also started with quite a few 3rd party game, but when it became clear the sales number weren't there they all vanished.

Honestly the only real strength of the switch, imo, is like Yoshi said, the combined Nintendo library. The 3DS didn't have enough game I'd want to justify picking it up, the wii U didn't have enough game to justify picking it up. But combine both of them and suddenly I'm a lot more interested.

 

[Yoshi178]

The console weakness will also stop it from getting all the 3rd party game

nope. like you also just said.

the sales number weren't there they all vanished.

3rd Party games weren't on the Wii U because it didn't have sales. graphics power has literally nothing to do with it.






when you say will people will keep buying XB1 and PS4 3rd Party games because they'll play better on those consoles here's what you really need to have a good long hard think about. in this instance you are purely looking at a "it will play better on those consoles" because of their graphics. but here's the thing, not everyone gives a shit about graphics, and this has been proven over and over again by the least powerful console winning the sales war of its respective generation. (PS1 was less powerful than N64. PS2 was Less powerful than the GC and Xbox Original and the Wii was less powerful than the 360 and PS3.)


yes the Switch will probably be less powerful than PS4 and Xbox. but 3rd Party games will still "Play Better" on the switch because people will be able to play them on both their tv at home in 1080p, or they'll be able to take it anywhere in the world with them while they're on the go. it's literally a home tv console AND a handheld console in 1. alot of people value that type of functionality much more than "specs"

that is an extremely practical function and advantage the Switch has over the PS4 and the Xbox One and is big reason why people may decide to pick the Switch up over the PS4 & Xbox One. and if the Switch ends up getting the Sales that Nintendo hopes for because of that reason, then those sales will only naturally bring 3rd Party support. for example From Software is already considering putting dark souls on the Switch if it receives a good amount of sales. and support from those types of Devs is exactly what Nintendo needs right now to continue to drive sales.

 

[meiam]

The difference is the spec gap between two console of a same generation (PS2 vs GC, N64 PS1 was a bit different since you compare disc to cartridge) was pretty small, difference between PS4/XB1 and switch will probably be something major (probably close to PS3 versus vita) if it can only do 720p on the move and then get upscale 1080p on TV, you know it's not that much. So I think it's not a case of same game with weaker graphic, but a case where some game just won't run without some massive amount of reworking for the switch, i.e. the dev will have to spend significant amount of time and money and it won't be worth it (akin to trying to make a current PS4 game run on the PS3, without handicapping the PS4 version).

Also being able to play on the move really isn't that big a deal, the PS vita could do that for the PS3 (and maybe even 4 if I recall), this might actually come as a surprise because nobody cared about that and it was never talked about. Similarly you could play vita (and PSP) game on your TV, all you needed was a simple cable, and again no one ever talked about it cause it's not a big deal.

So this leave the switch, a portable with a very bulky base that essentially just combine the power cable and TV cable into one, trying to compete with home console. I don't think it'll go well, the switch has a reasonably bright future ahead of it because it has little competition on the portable market right now (until we start seeing better game for tablet). Speaking of tablet, you know how everyone was like "ZOMG, skyrim on tablet amazing!" when the switch was announced, little know fact that was something you could have been doing for years with gaming tablet, but again people just don't care that much about gaming on the move with tablet, and so gaming tablet are a super niche, so I fail to see why the switch will be able to do that well with it.

 

[Yoshi178]

The difference is the spec gap between two console of a same generation (PS2 vs GC, N64 PS1 was a bit different since you compare disc to cartridge) was pretty small, difference between PS4/XB1 and switch will probably be something major (probably close to PS3 versus vita) if it can only do 720p on the move and then get upscale 1080p on TV, you know it's not that much. So I think it's not a case of same game with weaker graphic, but a case where some game just won't run without some massive amount of reworking for the switch, i.e. the dev will have to spend significant amount of time and money and it won't be worth it (akin to trying to make a current PS4 game run on the PS3, without handicapping the PS4 version).

Also being able to play on the move really isn't that big a deal, the PS vita could do that for the PS3 (and maybe even 4 if I recall), this might actually come as a surprise because nobody cared about that and it was never talked about. Similarly you could play vita (and PSP) game on your TV, all you needed was a simple cable, and again no one ever talked about it cause it's not a big deal.

So this leave the switch, a portable with a very bulky base that essentially just combine the power cable and TV cable into one, trying to compete with home console. I don't think it'll go well, the switch has a reasonably bright future ahead of it because it has little competition on the portable market right now (until we start seeing better game for tablet). Speaking of tablet, you know how everyone was like "ZOMG, skyrim on tablet amazing!" when the switch was announced, little know fact that was something you could have been doing for years with gaming tablet, but again people just don't care that much about gaming on the move with tablet, and so gaming tablet are a super niche, so I fail to see why the switch will be able to do that well with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwh3Yvabw1c&t=

Also being able to play on the move really isn't that big a deal, the PS vita could do that for the PS3

the PS Vita was a seperate handheld device you had to buy as well as your PS3.

the Switch is one system that does both roles. Vita and PS3 are two devices that do two different things.