Jimquisition: Angry Birds Is Not Sh*t
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I don't think I could call it "shit", but I can say I don't like it, mostly because I don't think the physics are actually that good, which is basically what the entire game runs on.
I can hit the same exact spot over and over again and have it do completely different stuff each time. then theres times where I hit something, and it doesnt move at all, and other times it breaks the whole fucking thing. So it feels like luck is more important then skill, and most people can't see that which is the other annoying factor. Yea theres aiming, but you might as well be playing a slot machine. And while I'm sure I'll get a hundred responces to this post with people saying "YOU'RE JUST DOING IT WRONG, L2P!" all my friends agree with me that there really is no L2P, and I think thats what makes it so popular.
Then you have buy the eagle mode thing which gives you an auto win basically? what the point of that even? might as well just not play the game then lol.
I wouldn't say the game is "shit" but I would say its overhyped and not really that good for its popularity. I wouldn't say its the downfall of all gaming, but I don't understand all the praise it gets when its such a flawed and basic game.
I also don't understand all the hate the "haters" get for anything like this though. Were instantly marked as "haters" and that we just seem to hate everything ever made. Were told we have no good reasons, then once we give reasons, we're somehow still the haters, branded a hater forever and ever for the rest of time. It's so much easier to brand someone a hater then it is to genuinely listen to their side, and in the process, being a true hater.
hypocrisy is a subtle thing I guess.
I can hit the same exact spot over and over again and have it do completely different stuff each time. then theres times where I hit something, and it doesnt move at all, and other times it breaks the whole fucking thing. So it feels like luck is more important then skill, and most people can't see that which is the other annoying factor. Yea theres aiming, but you might as well be playing a slot machine. And while I'm sure I'll get a hundred responces to this post with people saying "YOU'RE JUST DOING IT WRONG, L2P!" all my friends agree with me that there really is no L2P, and I think thats what makes it so popular.
Then you have buy the eagle mode thing which gives you an auto win basically? what the point of that even? might as well just not play the game then lol.
I wouldn't say the game is "shit" but I would say its overhyped and not really that good for its popularity. I wouldn't say its the downfall of all gaming, but I don't understand all the praise it gets when its such a flawed and basic game.
I also don't understand all the hate the "haters" get for anything like this though. Were instantly marked as "haters" and that we just seem to hate everything ever made. Were told we have no good reasons, then once we give reasons, we're somehow still the haters, branded a hater forever and ever for the rest of time. It's so much easier to brand someone a hater then it is to genuinely listen to their side, and in the process, being a true hater.
hypocrisy is a subtle thing I guess.
As many others here have stated; Angry Birds is shit because it is a remake of a flash game that, if iOS allowed flash, would never had cost 1$ and would never had made millions.
I hate the game because it is another example of how people will pay money for something that has been given away for free, and because they are fucking retarded they will by it over and over again with new skins.
I hate the game because it is another example of how people will pay money for something that has been given away for free, and because they are fucking retarded they will by it over and over again with new skins.
I personally thought the game was, overall, fairly boring and pretty annoying at times. Sure, it was a hoot the first 15 minutes, but then the novelty wore off.
It works good as a timewaster while waiting for the bus to arrive, but other than that i can't really see the long-term appeal.
Disliking something because it is popular is stupid, true, but I can't stop myself from doing it anyway at times...
Why do we do that, anyway?
It works good as a timewaster while waiting for the bus to arrive, but other than that i can't really see the long-term appeal.
Disliking something because it is popular is stupid, true, but I can't stop myself from doing it anyway at times...
Why do we do that, anyway?
Yeah, Angry Birds is fine. It's great for when I have five minutes to kill in line. I get a little annoyed with the touch-screen interface at times, but that may well be as much the fault of my phone as the game's interface itself (though some way to "reset" a bird if the pull starts to go awry would certainly be appreciated.)
Still think Jim is wrong about Farmville, though.
Still think Jim is wrong about Farmville, though.
I love Angry Birds.... Play the fuck out of it, that I do.
I only hate that stupid useless red bird. Drop an egg, blow up, kamikaze dive, boomer-rang or get the fuck outta my army.
I only hate that stupid useless red bird. Drop an egg, blow up, kamikaze dive, boomer-rang or get the fuck outta my army.
Okay, I've sat back and watched enough of this show to finally talk about it.
1: Having your live action body recorded is unnecessary. I know everyone else here is just a disembodied voice or a cartoon that doesn't move their mouth, and you wanted to do something different. But if it doesn't really add any value or change anything, and you don't have any legitimate reason to do it, then save yourself the trouble and don't.
2: On the internet, it seems to be cool to A: think life sucks, and B: be cartoonishly self-absorbed. But of course, most of the time, people make those assumptions on people (or themselves) unfairly.
We all know that Yahtzee is not cynical, right? He's what you call 'extremely critical', which is a good thing. And I hope you can tell he's not egotistical either, eh? He just doesn't hesitate to congratulate himself for the things he actually has accomplished.
Outside of that, his 'I'm cynical and egotistical' routine is just a funny gag he likes to play.
Then when MovieBob arrived, the 'I'm cynical and egotistical' gag got a new dark twist. In that Bob really is cynical and egotistical. Like holy shit, I feel really bad for him.
But nowwwww, here comes Jim Sterling. He seems to be mostly focusing on the 'self-absorbed' side of the act. And my God, it is so fake. It is so forced. It is SO cheap! Clearly, he spent less than a day developing his on-screen persona. Speaking of which...
3: I thought everyone agreed wearing sunglasses indoors was an automatic douche-descriptive.
4: You set your opening to the first random song you saw on your iPod? Really?? Is it 2006??
5: You talk so slow! Now, one can't help if their own voice is a problem, so this isn't a real major knock against you, but it's annoying when the previously-mentioned Bob and Yahtzee can effortlessly crank out words at the speed of thought, and even the Unskippable boys can get out jokes within very small timing restraints, but you make it sound like it hurts every time you open your mouth. You endlessly stumble over your own words. A journal/blog would be better for you.
6: This episode is ridiculous. Hardcore gamers don't like angry birds? WHAT hardcore gamers? We all know that SOME do, because every opinion possible is contained within the internet. Some hardcore gamers like to drink piss. Some hardcore gamers have split personality disorder. So what should we do about that? Make a video on the Escapist about how piss is unhealthy to drink? And should the next one be referring everybody to a psychiatrist?
The point is, I like Angry Birds, my brother likes Angry Birds, I've never once talked to a gamer who didn't like Angry Birds, lots and lots of gamers like Angry goddamn Birds. So why make a video defending it like this, acting like you're some tiny resistance fighting for truth?
In the following regard, you actually ARE like Movie Bob; you scan the internet until you find a few people with an opinion you disagree with, then make a video all about how that opinion is wrong.
I know there is some value in this. I know it can make for constructive conversation. But your show hardly gets that far. In this one instance, that's because...
7: This episode is also a complete re-tread of your Call of Duty show! I'm sure you're fully aware of that, but goddamn. You pretty much just replaced "Call of Duty" with "Angry Birds", then added that brief sidebar of 'idea development' and 'the thing the developer has said in the past'. This isn't good showmanship, nor is it good journalizm.
8: In fact, you never seem to say anything that isn't already well-known or completely obvious overall.
In conclusion: The Jimquisition would be okay for Youtube, but it's not the kind of quality I expect from The Escapist. The one nice thing I will say is, the pictures in the slideshow are sometimes pretty funny.
1: Having your live action body recorded is unnecessary. I know everyone else here is just a disembodied voice or a cartoon that doesn't move their mouth, and you wanted to do something different. But if it doesn't really add any value or change anything, and you don't have any legitimate reason to do it, then save yourself the trouble and don't.
2: On the internet, it seems to be cool to A: think life sucks, and B: be cartoonishly self-absorbed. But of course, most of the time, people make those assumptions on people (or themselves) unfairly.
We all know that Yahtzee is not cynical, right? He's what you call 'extremely critical', which is a good thing. And I hope you can tell he's not egotistical either, eh? He just doesn't hesitate to congratulate himself for the things he actually has accomplished.
Outside of that, his 'I'm cynical and egotistical' routine is just a funny gag he likes to play.
Then when MovieBob arrived, the 'I'm cynical and egotistical' gag got a new dark twist. In that Bob really is cynical and egotistical. Like holy shit, I feel really bad for him.
But nowwwww, here comes Jim Sterling. He seems to be mostly focusing on the 'self-absorbed' side of the act. And my God, it is so fake. It is so forced. It is SO cheap! Clearly, he spent less than a day developing his on-screen persona. Speaking of which...
3: I thought everyone agreed wearing sunglasses indoors was an automatic douche-descriptive.
4: You set your opening to the first random song you saw on your iPod? Really?? Is it 2006??
5: You talk so slow! Now, one can't help if their own voice is a problem, so this isn't a real major knock against you, but it's annoying when the previously-mentioned Bob and Yahtzee can effortlessly crank out words at the speed of thought, and even the Unskippable boys can get out jokes within very small timing restraints, but you make it sound like it hurts every time you open your mouth. You endlessly stumble over your own words. A journal/blog would be better for you.
6: This episode is ridiculous. Hardcore gamers don't like angry birds? WHAT hardcore gamers? We all know that SOME do, because every opinion possible is contained within the internet. Some hardcore gamers like to drink piss. Some hardcore gamers have split personality disorder. So what should we do about that? Make a video on the Escapist about how piss is unhealthy to drink? And should the next one be referring everybody to a psychiatrist?
The point is, I like Angry Birds, my brother likes Angry Birds, I've never once talked to a gamer who didn't like Angry Birds, lots and lots of gamers like Angry goddamn Birds. So why make a video defending it like this, acting like you're some tiny resistance fighting for truth?
In the following regard, you actually ARE like Movie Bob; you scan the internet until you find a few people with an opinion you disagree with, then make a video all about how that opinion is wrong.
I know there is some value in this. I know it can make for constructive conversation. But your show hardly gets that far. In this one instance, that's because...
7: This episode is also a complete re-tread of your Call of Duty show! I'm sure you're fully aware of that, but goddamn. You pretty much just replaced "Call of Duty" with "Angry Birds", then added that brief sidebar of 'idea development' and 'the thing the developer has said in the past'. This isn't good showmanship, nor is it good journalizm.
8: In fact, you never seem to say anything that isn't already well-known or completely obvious overall.
In conclusion: The Jimquisition would be okay for Youtube, but it's not the kind of quality I expect from The Escapist. The one nice thing I will say is, the pictures in the slideshow are sometimes pretty funny.
DustyDrB said:
People saying that "no one" hates Angry Birds should look at some of the other comments in this very own thread. Of course, it's not always expressed as "hate". "It's not original!" or other rationalizations are often used.ZZoMBiE13 said:
Exactly. You can't copyright ideas, only the expression of ideas. Where I'm from, seeing someone else's idea, refining and improving it, expressing it in your own fashion and making money off of it is called "capitalism working the way it's supposed to". It's in every industry, and especially creative ones. If you don't like the end product, don't give them your money.Active Schizophrenic said:
But that's all a smartphone game has to do. Smartphones aren't platforms for hardcore gamers, they are for people who want to kill a few minutes here and there while commuting, waiting for an appointment, and so on. And for that market, Angry Birds is an almost perfect game as Jim noted.lancar said:
Angry Birds and all those other popular iphone games aren't shit, but they aren't really games either. They are $1 distractions, well worth your money good $1 distractions, but nothing more. I don't sit at home and choose to play angry birds instead of watch Tv or brows the net. Angry Birds is just to kill time at the dentist's office or work breaks. It's not an experience like Mass Effect or Skyrim, it's not trying to be. If you compare it to those games, then yeah, angry birds is shit, and I think that's the problem. The developers who make these distractions like to compare their stuff to actual games (and go as far as to say their stuff will replace real games one day). That makes people also compared iphone games to real games, thats why people say angry birds is stupid.
You have to remember that an iphone game and an xbox game are two different forms of entertainment, and they both fill specific nitches in our lives the other cannot.
You have to remember that an iphone game and an xbox game are two different forms of entertainment, and they both fill specific nitches in our lives the other cannot.
Well, there's always hate for a game. Even in these comments (which are bound to attract more haters than average given it's nature) I'm not seeing that much of it. Is there hate? Yes, and there always will be no matter what. I'm sure some people even hate grilled cheese sandwiches (the monsters). But is it really a substantial amount of people?tautologico said:
I'm not a fan of the game by a long shot. I just lack the patience to play the game constantly and get aggravated with it all to easily.
But that doesn't mean I don't see the appeal to it. It's cute, with simple gameplay and an even more simple premise. And God knows it's like crack for game completionists.
But that doesn't mean I don't see the appeal to it. It's cute, with simple gameplay and an even more simple premise. And God knows it's like crack for game completionists.
Dusty, you at least have to accept that it is completely possible to put too much cheese in the sandwich, rendering it disgusting.DustyDrB said:
Lulwut?UltraHammer said:
That's a terrible analogy, you can't have too much cheese o.0
You only have 'too much' cheese when you can't pick up the sandwich, but even then that isn't "too much" cheese, it's "too little" bread.
ANYWAY!
I've always hated the HYPE of Angry Birds... never actually played the game but I think I'd enjoy it.
I mostly just hate ignorant people who will go onto the comments page of games that predated Angry Birds and call it an "ANGRY BIRDS CLONE!!!!!".
And in the end I don't even think you can call "angry birds" a clone either, the style of game easily has enough entries to have its own subgenre.
No, the game isn't shit. However, it does take a toll on my phone's battery. I'll just stick to using my PSP as a game device and my phone as a news browser/texting machine.
Yes, having played the game on Google Chrome (which is free, by the way! =O) I identified two things that make it good and are probably the whole reason why it is so big.SoulSalmon said:
1: The gameplay is engaging. The physics must be the best of any game in this genre. It's not a new kind of game, but it's the first one to do a really good job, as far as I can see. Every time you miss a pig, you get the feeling that you missed it. And when you kill a pig, you feel like it was your skill and focus that made it happen. In both cases, the game simply sat back and did its job; letting you play it.
2: The presentation is unforgettable. A lot of games these days are adopting the 'cartoony' art style, but most of the time, it's too lazy to be engaging or interesting. For example, that new Rayman sidescroller that was at e3? Nothing bad to say about the gameplay, but the visual aesthetic was lousy.
Birds, on the other hand, actually has a style, and a damn good one. Going back to Rayman again, the birds really remind you of the rabbids, don't they? The basic concept is the same: "crazy animal that constantly blabs gibberish". And the rabbids were cool, but the birds are awesome. They were all carefully and expertly designed to guarantee that you will love them.
Furthermore, I like how they make the enemies a lovable cartoon stereotype as well. Reminds me of what people love about the Kirby series.