Jimquisition: GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS

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ElPatron

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Smilomaniac said:
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I'm here to subpeona you on behalf of deflection, it feels abused and is taking you to court :)

You're dragging it way out of what the original point was. Take it for what it was or don't. Just don't waste my time debating any and everything else.
I am not dragging it out. Changing the visuals to a game does not change it's gameplay flaws.

Call of Duty has it's flaws. Simply making it look different doesn't change the horrible balance, the underpowered shotguns, the immensely retarded spawn system, the glitches and the lag compensation issues (this not taking into account the pain that it is playing a game designed for consoles in a PC).

Generally I don't give a shit about visuals and honestly nobody should cling on them to criticize a game unless they are horribly uniform. The Modern Warfare titles might have limited palettes but they are not uniform as color schemes change. Battlefield 3 looks gorgeous if I ignore the bloom.

Yeah, I would love a new jungle shooter. But I don't care if it looks like Crysis or like Quake III. As long as it plays well, visuals can go take a hike because they don't make shit gameplay feel any better.

About the unrealistic Middle East game thing:

We are talking about gaming here. We don't take ourselves seriously. We can kill Russians and Germans but if your character is a Taliban killing Americans then there is a shitstorm and you have to change the name of the faction.

We are talking about gaming - people tried to make a serious game about war... It was called Six Days in Fallujah. Apparently you can't make a virtual documentary on a war that is too recent.
 

ThunderCavalier

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Vault101 said:
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Forgive me.

Action-Adventure Survival whatever the hell it is.

... That just happens to have a cover mechanic and gunplay.

(You know... like most FPSs anyways.)
I havnt really played a FPS with an actual "cover" mechanic excpet Deus Ex (which also had a big does of RPG)

anyway, I'm actually talking about the perspective

for example Gears of war is NOT a FPS
Sorry. I tend to lump shooters of most kinds with FPSs nowadays since they do basically share most of the same mechanics:

1) Your character has shit health.

2) In order for your gun to hit anything not right by him, he has to manually aim down the sights.

3) The game has a lot of gunplay that involves your character manually or automatically hiding behind a piece of debris shooting at people behind other miscellaneous pieces of debris.

While FPS refers specifically to shooters in the FIRST-PERSON, ala Halo and CoD, we tend to use FPS so much that the whole 'shooter' genre in general tends to start being referred to as FPSs. Hence why I really just call them FPSs in general; no one really says 'shooter,' they tend to say FPS.

At least, in my experience. I don't want to argue semantics regarding the title. I'm well aware that games like Gears of War don't fall under the correct specifications for being called 'FPSs,' but I've heard people call them that anyway.
 

Smurf McSmurfington

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Truth be told, the only shooty shooter that actually matters in the longer run as a game itself, is Planetside 2, which most certainly is somewhat different, though based on the same basic mechanics... just done differently.

Personally I haven't really played many FPS games these past few years, or indeed many third person shooters, maybe 2-3, which makes it kind of surprising to me that shooters are still popular.
I remember the early 2000's when shooters were extremely popular and I played a lot of them... did they perhaps wane in popularity at some point and then became popular again? This is a sincere question, by the way, I truly do not know.
 

ThunderCavalier

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Vault101 said:
well...its wrong

and being in 3rd person or first person actually makes a big difference for me
I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just kinda stating how I'm kinda seeing it. I understand if people may have some different views on a game based on a point of view and all of that stuff, and I'm not trying to advocate my view. I'm just kinda saying that shooters just blend into the FPS title just because of fairly similar mechanics, and thus I tend to refer to them as such. I'm not saying we should all refer to them as 'FPSs' as, technically speaking as you've pointed out, it's mechanically incorrect.

Sorry for dragging out this conversation longer than we probably had to.
 

Undeadpool

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We gamers are an impossible to please bunch. We demand variety, but when it's OUR favorite game that's changed, the dev is RUINING THE FRANCHISE!
We demand mainstream acceptance, but we don't want to make any of the sacrifices that comes with it (like press conferences that are made for TV in both tone and pacing).

And that's why I thank God for you, Jim. At least you don't jump on the "EVERYONE SHIT ON SHOOTERS BECAUSE THEY'RE POPULAR" bandwagon.
 

Mr_Pickles

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Jim keep up the great Jimquisitions they are informative. I love hearing opinions about what people think about any topic that deals with the video game industry. Hey Jim to my knowledge at least EA doesn't charge for cheat codes anymore. Remember the "Godfather" video game? : ) I just want EA not to mess with the Dead Space developers and just let them do their thing. Also I want to see some new IPs that's not a shooter.

[I would like a "Gravity Rush" shirt please. ALSO JIM IS SEXY : { )]

Wrong topic sorry guys/gals