Jimquisition: Hate Out Of Ten

[Arcane Azmadi]

The problem with these retards is that they aren't interested in the review or ANYTHING it's saying. They have no interest in the opinion of the review writer in the first place. Their chain of insane troll logic works like thi:

I am a fan of [insert series here], ergo this series is perfect, otherwise I wouldn't like it. Therefore anyone who claims this game is LESS than perfect is personally attacking and insulting me. And since I am smarter (and have a bigger dick) than everyone else, anyone who disagrees with my view of this game is inherently wrong and therefore should be abused and insulted because they are morons and deserve it.

As you and I and Jim and everyone whose brain is large than a walnut can see, this is fucking retarded. But "fucking retarded" is a pretty good description for half the gaming community these days (disclaimer: hyperbole) so what would you expect?

 

[ManInRed]

I thought it has been commonly assume game review scores of 8.8 or lower are below average for a long time now. This mainly because the people who care about game reviews, especially for games they never played, are morons.

Game scores are tricky as its different to rank an experience when games offer so many experiences. Even if 5 were average, what would an average experience in a game be for you? Liking games as a whole, I tend to think an average experiences would be pretty good. But if 6 through 10 were levels of perfection my game score would be hated by the above conformed morons.

If I had to do my own scoring, I half think I just through random numbers with no ratio in place of what they were out of. Just to see peoples reactions are the same. Otherwise, I guess I like the idea that games get rank as:
FUBAR - painful to play
Expendable - waste of time to play, been done better
Disappointing - interesting, but fails to be as good as I expected
Curious - something cool, if it sounds like your thing
Brilliant - a complete success at what it does
Amazing - beyond a success, everyone should play it

I would be alright if "Brilliant" was considered average, if games were that good on average, but it would be shocking if an average number of games got "Curious."

 

[notimeforlulz]

Last game I made got a 5. I... would.. fucking.. kill... for a 7, so fuck anyone who bitches about an 8

 

[GaltarDude1138]

Don't bother me. I'm currently defending a reviewer for rating Assassin's Creed Revelations a 7/10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OxANJjLSaw

 

[Hitchmeister]

I have seen so many lackluster, mediocre games get 10/10 reviews that they mean nothing at all to me. I'm much more interested in a game that can get an 8 out of 10. First off, it probably means the reviewer took some time to play the game and see what it's about rather than just heap praise to appease touchy publishers and drooling fan-boys. They might be able to tell me something about what's great and what's not-so-good in a game. Because face it, gamers hate bad 8 of 10 reviews, but you can't swing a dead cat on the internet without hitting those same fans complaining about parts of their 10 out of 10 games that they don't like.


Somebody needs to switch to a 2 point, rather than a 10 point scale. 2 would be the new "perfect" all the old 9/10s would get 1, and everything else gets a zero. If that's all the variation you're going to use, why waste all the other numbers?

 

[Orinon]

Really enjoyed this one, it had a real issue and it was funny around the end.
"The whole thank god for me" is Jim's thing I know, but I like to see variety and Jim just having a silent freak out is definitely amusing. Also love the Zelda sound.

 

[Satosuke]

I think if I ever start reviewing stuff, I'm just gonna give scores of 1, 2, or 3 based on whether or not said media is worth your time. 3 would be recommended, 2 would be maybe, and 1 would be not recommended. That's it. No half-stars. No percentages. Just good, average, and bad. Maybe even make it a cute visual representation like a traffic light. Want in-depth analysis? Read the text review, goddamnit.

The mentally deficient rabble don't want nuanced x-out-of-10 scores to evoke serious discussion about a game's strengths and shortcomings. They want to see critics groveling at the feet of their favorite IP's. To them, tens out of ten are the confetti thrown at the game's triumphant parade down main street. I honestly hope that anyone who's EVER complained about a 7, 8, or 9 out of 10 gets a swift kick in the ass.

 

[Kopikatsu]

Don't bother me. I'm currently defending a reviewer for rating Assassin's Creed Revelations a 7/10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OxANJjLSaw

WHAT? OBVIOUSLY ASSASSIN'S CREED: REVELATIONS DESERVES A 10.5/10. I KNOW THIS DESPITE THE GAME NOT BEING RELEASED HERE FOR ANOTHER HOUR. STRING THAT REVIEWER UP AND LET THE DOGS FEAST ON HIS INNARDS.

Edit: After watching some of the review, a couple of his points do seem a bit...off. (Like the missions have no context.) But I won't be able to verify or deny those claims until I actually have the game and play it myself.

 

[IkeGreil29]

I think Jim has an excellent point! I recently read a "Guide to VG Scores" on some site, and they said 8's were not worth your time or cash unless you were part of the niche market or a fanboy. The 60 $ that a game is worth should make you choose which games you buy carefully, certainly (more in the cases of inflated prices abroad). That, however, does not justify complaining about a 7.5 onward; really shitty games ACTUALLY get shitty scores. Also, not READING the review leads to a lot of stupidity, and even Yahtzee has mentioned this kind of nonsense in most of his end-year review videos, saying that people can't seem to get through their skull the fact that numbers mean jack-shit and that you can have a less than AAA title and still have more or equal fun to that AAA title. Likewise, AAA does not = perfect or excellent game.

 

[Metalrocks]

i agree with him on that. 8 is still good. but i guess because you already read on the retail covers 10/10, lots of people believe it and seeing this game below 10, is a problem or an outrage. i guess you can call it a hardcore fanboy thing. damn, when i once talked bad about resident evil 4 for the pc, people of course complained about it. even when i explained why its bad like bad controls, graphics etc, people still made a fuss out of it.
i never believed it at all when i read such a high score on a retail cover. hell, even bad or silly movies still get a good score written on the cover.

mass effect 2 had 10/10 written on the box, and i love ME2, but even i have to say that its not a 10/10. not even half life 1+2. and these are my favorite games of all time.
why people are so stupid or blind is just amazing. but i guess its like this today. after all, politicians are stupid too and they run a damn country. george w. bush is a perfect example.

 

[SandroTheMaster]

Wow. One video from Jim that I actually agree with through and through, instead of just with the acknowledgement of the problem.

For me, 10 out of 10 (or 100%) is that score that should never be used. And to the people who think games under 5 don't exist: Have you ever played one of the FMV games from the 90s? I dare you find one deserving of a score above 4... well, maybe excluding Phantasmagoria. But even then it is a 6 at most.

Still, objectively speaking, reviewers themselves have come to give 6 to games they think are unremarkable in every way, but aren't downright painful to play.

In general I like the PCGamer scores. Sure, I've strongly disagreed with some games that received 80-90%, but they consistently do give out 20-40% to certain bad titles and in the 50% mark there really are games they say is just mostly average, while games with 60% usually are average games with some redeeming qualities. Still, I can probably guess the shitstorm it would be if they, say, give the next Bioshock anything less than 80%, but they have on occasion given hyped games scores around the 70% mark (and explaining the shortcomings that kept it from something higher).

 

[Strain42]

If I'm taking a test in school and I get an 80%...I celebrate with dancing, excited phone calls to friends and family and unhealthy rewards involving fast food and Netflix.

I expect the same from my games. An 8/10 is a fine score.

 

[MB202]

So much hate... And not only is it justified, I feel right within my mind to punch anyone in the face who dares say otherwise!

Honestly, what's the big fucking deal? 8/10 is GOOD! In fact, it's better than good! It's great! It's far above average! I can understand if people are upset about a 6. Maybe even a 7. But 8? Come the fuck ON!

 

[Jakisall]

Great video as always Jim, now go get a drink you look like you need it.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

So fucking true.

I sincerely hope that the various review sites, internet wide, can be inspired by this video, grow some balls, and go back to giving games proper scores.

Nothing is perfect. Not the best game ever made. Nothing - ever - deserves a 10/10.

 

[Vault101]

ya no sorry, i watched the first episode and didnt like it. thought maybe i'd give jim another try, but NOPE i still cant watch this guy's videos. i just dont like him

good for you!!!!!!

anyway, he makes a point that should be so friggen painfully obvious..I always thourght 8 or 7 were good scores and ment it was worth buying

 

[remnant_phoenix]

The more time passes, the more I find myself agreeing with Yahtzee when he said, "I don't believe that a complex opinion can be represented numerically."

The most effective reviews I've read have been ones without scores. When there is a score, it ends up coloring my entire perspective of what was said. When there isn't, I walk away with a better appreciation for what was written.

If there's going to be a numbering system, I like the way Rottentomatoes does it as opposed to the way Metacritic does it. On RT, all reviews are marked as either positive or negative based on whether or not the critic recommends the film. The average is then determined by percentage of positive reviews.