Jimquisition: Limited Collector's Complete Edition

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Limited Collector's Complete Edition

The heroic Jim Sterling is back once again to champion the rights of those too weak to champion themselves, and bask in the very palpable gratitude that he most assuredly deserves. This week, he describes how the game industry is tying a noose around its own neck while trying to blame everybody else for its problems. Sterling is pretty brilliant, really.

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DustyDrB

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I just wish they got the mindset of people who buy Collector's Editions. They give the extra money so they can have everything that's available for the game at launch. So all this retailer exclusive content is just a slap in the face.

 

Gennadios

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Thank you Jim Sterling, this was indeed better than I was doing.

I burnt out on special edition DLC long before this episode aired, and most of what you mentioned was already the case. Wont stop me from buying the Digital Deluxe copy of Mass Effect 3 or games I actually give a damn about, but I'm seeing less and less point in marginally interesting games from untested developers.

Worst case scenario is they'll end up selling a complete pack of pre-order DLC somewhere down the line.
 

Ford-Prefect

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It is true as I find myself waiting for price reductions on a lot of games. In fact its pretty much only hype that makes me buy on release and more often than not I am disappointed and feel ripped off. My fear is that new or under performing Triple AAA get aggressively price cut and then they start competing price point with indie games. So what do I buy a mediocre AAA or that interesting indie game. Oh and I never buy Collectors unless its actually cheaper than standard release, I have done this a few times I picked up collectors edition of Enemy territory for less than the standard game that was also in the same shop *duh.
 

Scrustle

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Jim does it again. Personally I was intending to get one of the collectors edition versions of Reckoning (the cheaper one) but I recently decided that was retarded, so I'll just get the normal one. And he's right about them making us wait. I'm waiting for the inevitable re-release of Assassin's Creed Revelations when it comes out, judging by the past 2 games. But that said, it doesn't look like any of the DLC included in it will be anything I'm interested in, so I might just end up getting the normal version for even cheaper.

But it isn't the worst thing that publishers are doing. I mean you can always look at it in the way that you pay more earlier after release because you get to spend more time enjoying the game than someone who waits. So it kind of makes sense.

Also, as just a random addition, when I bought Enslaved new myself it was pretty soon after release, but it was only like £15. I also bought it as a new sealed copy which was just lying in a cheapo bin. There were used versions of the game on the shelf which were priced higher! I was pretty chuffed with that. Good game.

And why the hell are they re-releasing Homefront? What for? Who the hell would buy it?
 

Satosuke

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So what if a special edition or 'game of the year' edition of a game is released a good chunk of time after the game's initial launch, with all the DLC included? That's a great way to get new players interested. And no, you're not stupid for buying the game when it's first released; all that means is you wanted to play the game now instead of later. And to be honest, unless it's a game-changing piece of DLC, I don't really give a fuck if there's retailer-exclusives offered at launch. If it doesn't effect the game, why would you care?


Jim spouted a lot more DERP than he normally does this week.
 

CardinalPiggles

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I thank you Jim (does that help your ego?).

Anyway a good episode this week I thought, people know not to buy games brand new anymore, because 80% of the games out their will either be cum stuffed bullshit, or not to your personal liking.
 

UNHchabo

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Yep; I've pre-ordered all of Valve's games starting with Half-Life 2, and everything else I've bought has been after it's been on a massive sale.

L.A. Noire is probably the first single non-Valve game (as opposed to a pack) that I've ever bought for more than $10, and that's because it was only $12.50, and I was really interested in playing it. It's advertised as the "Complete Edition", so if they came out with DLC after I bought it and didn't give it for free, I'd be upset.
 

nilus2k

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I always wonder about special editions. Are people really paying the ext 20 or 30 or 50 or 100 dollars to get the little bit of extra content or do they want the cheap gimmick crap that comes in those packs.

I mean does any really care about "Art books"?
 

rofltehcat

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nilus2k said:
I always wonder about special editions. Are people really paying the ext 20 or 30 or 50 or 100 dollars to get the little bit of extra content or do they want the cheap gimmick crap that comes in those packs.

I mean does any really care about "Art books"?
Hm... the SWTOR collector's edition cost like 150 or so and the figures from it alone went up to 100 on ebay. However, this is Star Wars and not some game/series without a fanbase. It is M'fing Star Wars and there are many many people out there that are nuts about it.

The buying behaviour outlined by Jim basically fits my own. I'm buying most of my games when their price has been reduced by a lot. I'm a cheapskate and tbh in a market where there come out more games than even I (wuts a RL?) can play, I'll take the cheap solution.
Imo, release game prices are inflated anyways and they could make a lot more money by reducing release game prices from the start.
 

Something Amyss

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A Working Class Hero says "Thank God For Me."

Also, thank you for actually pointing out that Gamestop is being put in the position where used sales are the only way to make money. I've been the only one I'm aware of saying this for ages. While it doesn't make them nice guys, they're still not the second coming of Satan as they're so often made out to be.

And honestly, the reason I don't own Skyrim is I can get a GotY edition in six months or so. Though that won't affect Skyrim the way it will Enslaved.

Speaking of, Kingdom of Amalur is a game I want to like, but fear it will probably suck. I'm not opting into a special edition of any game like that.
 

Neverhoodian

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Well said, Jim.

I remember buying a new copy of Arkham Asylum after hearing all the praise it garnered. A few months later the "Game of the Year Edition" was released, with all the DLC content included for the same price. I couldn't help but feel a bit miffed. I was faced with either buying the game again or shelling out a few extra bucks for the DLC I missed. In the end I decided to do neither, and I can't help but wonder if my negative reaction played a factor in that. Now I'm waiting for the GOTY Edition of Arkham City so I can prevent that situation from happening again.
 

Fullmetalfox

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Agree 100%. I'm very interested in Kingdoms of Amalur but no way I'm getting the collector's edition. Probably not even gonna get the game on launch. Few are the titles I pick on day one precisely because of the reasons you mentioned.
 

Cowabungaa

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I just wonder; how can we get into a dialogue with those game publishers? It's quite obvious that they're shooting themselves in the foot, and we as gamers don't want that either, because if they ultimately loose then we will too.

So how could we talk with each other so that everyone can benefit?