Jimquisition: Mass Effect 3 And The Case For A Gay Shepard

[Anodos]

Im not mad about including gay people, im angry about the red hair option.


Red hair only represents a small part of the human race. Including this takes away ram from ALL OTHER OPTIONS. I wish they would stop giving us so many options in games.

 

[Siege_TF]

There are plenty of ignorant people out there
They will rage about anything without any deeper understanding of topic
Also since when pedophilia=homosexualism?
That makes no f. sense, if homosexual molests kids of same gender, what stops heterosexual to molest kids of opposite gender? The answer is- nothing. Both can be pedophiles.

And besides all humans are bisexual, only hetero/homo balance is different for every person.
And no amount of denial will change it.

P.S. Congrats to Jim, he actually forced me to make Escapist account, because this topic is really important to me. No, not sexuality issues, but ignorance and stupidity of people.

P.P.S. I agree with ReservoirAngel, having this option in previous games, would be nice

Again I feel I must point out that while all child molesters are pedophiles, not all pedophiles are actually child molesters. There's a line between the 'old man who sits on a park bench and fantasizes about raping a newborn's face' as Jim put it, and someone who actually does it. At the end of the day one is an old man sitting on a park bench, and the other is (ideally) the subject of a good old fashioned lynch mob. It's the difference between believing that your country can't continue under it's current model and flying a plane into a building in an effort to change that model. The differences really are that extreme. At least to me. I'm sure that if I had children I'd understand (and all that good drivel).

Im not mad about including gay people, im angry about the red hair option.


Red hair only represents a small part of the human race. Including this takes away ram from ALL OTHER OPTIONS. I wish they would stop giving us so many options in games.

Too fucking right. Ideally, games should have no options at all. Giving people freedom will only ever lead to adult men violently raping and murdering children. Why won't people understand? If only people opened their eyes they would realize what a terrible, awful thing it is to be free to do stuff some arbitrary judge decided wasn't worth doing.

Thirded. I'd like to point out Somalia and China; two countries whose governments have much less and much more control than most first world countries over its' citizens, and ask your personal opinion on which countries' citizens are better off for it. China, obviously, even the pirates are all intellectual!

 

[Mosstromo]

You rule Torquemada Jim. With a necessary, merciless, iron-gauntleted, ruthless, bitchslapping hand for idiots.
I seldom have laughed so fitfully as with this one show. Awesome.

d(^-^)b

 

[Treblaine]

Really thy don't want even the gay OPTION! They don't even have that option with their own lives, nothing stops THEIR OWN lives going that way.

All there is is a gay character you can interact with and reciprocate the sexy-time. If you can't resist that you aren't a homophobe... you are a homosexual - in denial.

... Or a Bisexual in denial. You can't forget that.

I suppose to be pedantically correct, yes. Though I suppose you could say a bisexual is someone who is BOTH Homosexual and heterosexual.

 

[SandroTheMaster]

Goods gods! Nearly 500 comments? Really?

On a tiny little counter-argument, if I was gay, I'd not like to have a representation of my sexual inclination be shoe-horned into the game just to please me. But hey, from what I heard it is not really the case. So, more power to the rainbow power.

And Jim... you really earned my full respect this episode. A man with such a healthy self-esteem that he can shove a dildo-sword into his mouth to the internet to see... you have a lot more balls than every single one homophobe in the world combined. Just like Marzgurl of That Guy With The Glasses when she agreed to let Benzaie (another guy who I respect a lot) make a dead-ringer of her in Custom Girl 3D to show the internet.

People like you restore the faith I have in humankind.

 

[ElPatron]

The ability to fight fate or even control it, with the fate of death being symbolised by scissors in the myth of the fates.
The manifistaion of internal power.
Destruction, fairly simple.
Honor; the use of a tool of war not just to destroy, but to protect your ideals from forces that will not stop unless fought.
Your ties to others; how many times have you seen a weapon given to someone either from their father or a friend?

Translation: "who has the biggest dick" and "wanting your male offspring to have the biggest dicks".

The best fighters would be manlier, stronger, smarter. The best females would mate with the best males while the worst genes slowly sunk into oblivion.

 

[Jimi Ennis]

this is pedantic and will prob get abuse from people but.... child molesters and rapists have sex with children, pedophiles are sexually attracted to children, the 2 aren't necessarily related, let the flames begin

 

[dubious_wolf]

Huh I had never thought of that.....
You're right. The people who want a straight Shepard can have one.
The option would have no consequences...

 

[TheProfessor234]

Not really sure where the conversation is right now but I just wanted to add something.

I don't have any problems with homosexuality and if that's what you like/want, more power to you.

Where my problem is, not that it really is a problem, is that with my first hours into Mass Effect 3, the homosexuality is just really heavy handed. It's more about the writing than what it is actually. What I mean is, in previous games, when you're wooing your eye for romance, it was a subtle changes. You keep talking to them and things come up and boom, romance. In Mass Effect 3, the second time I talked to the guy you can have a relationship with, he pretty much flat out admits he's a romance option.

Again, I don't have a problem with homosexuality, it's just that in most other cases with the character writing, it's more subtle. They don't just flat out say, "Hey! I'm a romance option! Talk to meeee!" Or maybe they do and I just didn't notice it.

As I read the last bit of the post I can see while typing this, I see that other people have the same idea as me. Hopefully in the next RPG epic will have better writing in both spectrums, where both sides can enjoy what is going on.

 

[pffh]

My only problem with them including a homosexual option for Shepard in Mass Effect 3 is that I wish they'd had the same types of options in the first 2 games so I could have hooked up with Kaiden.

As it stands since I let him die in the first game, if I want to get me some of that sweet arse I'm going to have to play the first 2 over again. Though I'm not sure if he even appears in Mass Effect 2. I assume he only didn't show up in my playthrough of it because I sacrificed him on Vermire in Mass Effect 1.

Even so, I am determined to hit that even if it means playing through 2 past games (I never did finish ME2 anyway).

He indeed appears on ME2 if he survives 1 and I´m with you there going to get me some sweet Kaiden booty in ME3 (or if he is not available Jacobs pecs will do).

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Ok, so far you've offered a terrible argument and attempted to insult me by saying I am a child.

You're not bringing much to the table here in this debate.

Wheras you, on the other hand, are a beacon of masterful, intelligent reaso-oh wait. Your entire argument is based on the scientifically disproved concept that being gay is "wrong" or "unnatural" for humans. Wanna argue that the earth is flat while you're at it?

What? I support homosexuality as equally as I do heterosexuality. In fact, I've dated MORE people of my own sex than the opposite.

 

[Roman Monaghan]

I feel like a lot of the arguments in this video could be applied to the detractors of the "gay patch" in Star Wars The Old Republic. I don't get why people living in a utopian society will try to shit in everyone elses free lunch just because they aren't hungry. It's fucking stupid.