Jimquisition: Nintendo of America
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Thank you!! A side note to Stall. The sole objective of this video was a comical nerd rage based on exaggeration and the points of view of a knowledgeable and well informed journalist. If you didn't appreciate this kind of humor, refrain from watching. And it be nice to ask you who you are to be so informed about the stockholders and shareholders of NoA... Or are you only making assumptions on basic financial knowledge? Well only as slight remark to you my dear friend, bigger companies then NoA have fallen over bad marketing decisions... so I dunno extrapolate from that basic knowledge? (oh and just for the record I'm not a fan boy, i don't even knew these games existed and I do not own a wii).Feylynn said:
Jim, that was waaaay over the line of decency, and propriety, and I loved it.
Also, that was probably the only good argument for piracy that I've ever heard.
((aside from the existence of Games for Windows Live))
There can be legitimate reasons for burning your bridges.
Setting fire to a mattress stuffed with American dollars is insane.
Oi! Jim?
In future, my approval will scale directly with evidence presented.
Yes Nintendo is making stupid amounts of money. And the heads of their Marketing and PR department apparently have Tourettes syndrome or something. But more information is better, like: How well staffed are the groups that do localizations? Are those groups booked solid through 2013? Who does Nintendo normally use for NA releases? Do they have a short list of homeless guys who can "phone it in" at a hamburger's notice? Hell, I've got a nice voice, are they hiring?
Also, that was probably the only good argument for piracy that I've ever heard.
((aside from the existence of Games for Windows Live))
Perhaps they did, but Jim did put some effort into trying to find reasons for their stupidity. Legions of fans make themselves heard, but all Nintendo will say publicly to them is "thanks for playing." ?? But I do agree that I'd like to see more evidence that Jim is doing his homework to find out what the Jarate is going on here.Stall said:
There can be legitimate reasons for burning your bridges.
Setting fire to a mattress stuffed with American dollars is insane.
Oi! Jim?
In future, my approval will scale directly with evidence presented.
Yes Nintendo is making stupid amounts of money. And the heads of their Marketing and PR department apparently have Tourettes syndrome or something. But more information is better, like: How well staffed are the groups that do localizations? Are those groups booked solid through 2013? Who does Nintendo normally use for NA releases? Do they have a short list of homeless guys who can "phone it in" at a hamburger's notice? Hell, I've got a nice voice, are they hiring?
I cannot be avoided, the guy who hosts this segment is annoying as all fuck. But he brings a good point. I would LOVE to buy those games, and have my Wii be more then just shelf decoration. Hell I've only played one game on it in the last year, and that was Twilight Princess. If not for the Sonic games exclusive to it and Klonoa, I'd have givin up the Wii long ago.
And truth be told, Nintendo isn't selling me on the WiiU yet. Its claim of third party support of what the PS3 and the 360 will have makes me think " I have a Ps3 and/or 360, why should I buy a gimic like this?". Unless they ahve some really outstanding games that you know, they actually announce, maybe I'll invest. Honestly I'm still waiting for the PS4 or something, knowing that Sony and Microsoft, though incompetent boobs in their own right, know that they should be making a system, and not a ... whatever the hell the WiiU claims to be.
And truth be told, Nintendo isn't selling me on the WiiU yet. Its claim of third party support of what the PS3 and the 360 will have makes me think " I have a Ps3 and/or 360, why should I buy a gimic like this?". Unless they ahve some really outstanding games that you know, they actually announce, maybe I'll invest. Honestly I'm still waiting for the PS4 or something, knowing that Sony and Microsoft, though incompetent boobs in their own right, know that they should be making a system, and not a ... whatever the hell the WiiU claims to be.
Buying the European version of the game and messing with the Wii's region lock is NOT piracy. Piracy is STEALING THE GAME.
For years people have been buying Japanese SNES games and popping the tabs out of the NA SNES so they could play Japanese games on their SNES. Messing with your own hardware is not piracy either.
For years people have been buying Japanese SNES games and popping the tabs out of the NA SNES so they could play Japanese games on their SNES. Messing with your own hardware is not piracy either.
I'm warming to you, Jim. Your episodes are getting better in both how you present your argument and the actual point you're trying to make. You are quickly becoming what GameOverthinker used to be before inane prattling turned that and all subsequent shows into a slide show projection of fanboyisms.
Here's a question:
If anyone on these forums honestly considers BUYING AN IMPORT piracy or "stealing," how does he or she explain games like Mushihimesama Futari, which were DELIBERATELY designed with no region lock so they could be played by Americans without localizing the game? After all, importing is importing. Region lock is just a jerkish thing publishers do because they THINK it might affect their future sales, but usually it doesn't because the game will either be released in the US and make a bunch of money (because we generally want our english language version), or else it never will be released and they're screwing customers for no reason.
Here's a question:
If anyone on these forums honestly considers BUYING AN IMPORT piracy or "stealing," how does he or she explain games like Mushihimesama Futari, which were DELIBERATELY designed with no region lock so they could be played by Americans without localizing the game? After all, importing is importing. Region lock is just a jerkish thing publishers do because they THINK it might affect their future sales, but usually it doesn't because the game will either be released in the US and make a bunch of money (because we generally want our english language version), or else it never will be released and they're screwing customers for no reason.
This shouldn't be a surprise, given their business practices from the mid-'80s to the early '90s. So many praise them for saving the gaming industry, yet those same people forget about the iron-fisted tactics Nintendo used on its third party companies, and how their business model was on the fast track to driving it all into the ground again. Competition, like touching, is good, but Nintendo was all about making sure there was no competition, while keeping their third party companies on a tight, costly leash. So yeah, they can be pretty prickish when they feel like it.the spud said:
But anyway, it would be nice if Nintendo at least brought these games over with subtitles. That alone would make people happy, and all it would take is a some translators, proof readers, a few people to replace the text in the game, and finally have someone redo the manual in English. That would take, what... maybe a year? Sure, it wouldn't have English-speaking voice actors, but oh well. At least you'd still get the game and know what's going on while playing it.
Thank you so much for this. I completely agree with everything you said. I was behind the Wii for a while but a lack of interesting games has left it to gather dust. And just when some truly awesome titles could come out here Nintendo of America does just this.
I can't wait to see all the people I know that regard Nintendo as the "ultimate gaming resource in the world forever" have to say about this.
I can't wait to see all the people I know that regard Nintendo as the "ultimate gaming resource in the world forever" have to say about this.
I really did enjoy this episode, and thought you were pretty much dead on.
Even with the herp-derp part,..which I'll admit to laughing to. There I said it!
Even with the herp-derp part,..which I'll admit to laughing to. There I said it!
Hey, morons, before you all jump your way to conclusions, take a look at this [http://wii.nintendolife.com/news/2011/07/localisation_evidence_grows_as_pandoras_tower_demoed_at_expo]
It's very possible we might see these games at E3 2012.
It's very possible we might see these games at E3 2012.
I've started to realise something, I like Jim Sterling (though he does sometimes labour the point).
I just don't like his 'Jimquisition' shtick. Just be yourself Jim, you're much more interesting than the quasi-fascist routine. Sure return to it occasionally, but you don't need it and I think it holds you back.
Hell, Nintendo is a company that makes profit by SELLING GAMES PEOPLE LIKE! If they refuse to do that for MASSIVE market... what the hell sense does that make for the share-holders?
This all seems to be a useless marketing strategy to do with the Wii-U.
I also like this episode because he directs his vitriol not at the audience, or his critics, but well deservedly at the out-of touch corporations who are standing in the way of millions of gamers enjoying such wonderful works of gaming art. And Nintendo have done worse than given no reason, they have blatantly lied about why will bullshit like costs of localisation and minimal market.
How many languages in Europe is it localised for? 6? 12? And one of those languages is ENGLISH! I don't think it would be a deal-breaker if they saw words spelled like "colour" or "aluminium".
I just don't like his 'Jimquisition' shtick. Just be yourself Jim, you're much more interesting than the quasi-fascist routine. Sure return to it occasionally, but you don't need it and I think it holds you back.
Some episodes he fails to properly explain himself, this one he succeeded with aplomb. He shows how well these sorts of games sell in the USA. That is profit AND being nice.Stall said:
Hell, Nintendo is a company that makes profit by SELLING GAMES PEOPLE LIKE! If they refuse to do that for MASSIVE market... what the hell sense does that make for the share-holders?
This all seems to be a useless marketing strategy to do with the Wii-U.
I also like this episode because he directs his vitriol not at the audience, or his critics, but well deservedly at the out-of touch corporations who are standing in the way of millions of gamers enjoying such wonderful works of gaming art. And Nintendo have done worse than given no reason, they have blatantly lied about why will bullshit like costs of localisation and minimal market.
How many languages in Europe is it localised for? 6? 12? And one of those languages is ENGLISH! I don't think it would be a deal-breaker if they saw words spelled like "colour" or "aluminium".
At the time it might have but Fatal Frame didn't get fan translated for a while so I got a PS3 instead.Halo Fanboy said:
Now from what I've seen it's ridiculous to find a copy in stock at all, let alone what somewhere under a hundred dollars which is problematic since I'd need to be the system just to play it and have been waiting for other good reasons to convince me the Wii was worth it.