Jimquisition: Revivify The Cold Vitae

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GonzoGamer

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eBusiness said:
I was seriously getting convinced that I should buy a Vita during the few seconds between being told that a bunch of PS1 titles were released for free and being told that the "bug" has been fixed.

I guess I should have recognised that that was too good to be true.
I know.
It's like the big ps4 announcement: I was all ready to preorder one (if only for their smart ass attitude towards ms)then they say you'll need to subscribe to plus to play online. So I'm taking a break from consoles.
But I don't know why anyone's surprised about the vita. The psp sold a bunch on un-kept promises. At least the psp was able to get the best franchises of the time: GTA, Burnout, Katamari. Though the latter didn't work well on the psp, it's the only one of those that's on the vita. It needs to show off it's power with some Original games from big franchises that people dig now.

And yes, the whole package is too expensive for something you carry around.
 

Lightknight

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Oh man, the Vita with a solid stream of indie games and PS1/PS2 ports? That'd be the perfect handheld right now.

I've enjoyed some of the exclusive content and the media capabilities but Sony consistently drops the ball here.

Good job touching on that memory card crap too. The moment I bought a PSP memory card (five years after owning one) I also bought 4 or 5 games. Sony is directly missing out on sales with these shenanigans.
 

Hutzpah Chicken

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Hutzpah Chicken said:
Talking about Sony and Crash Bandicoot, why did they toss him in a ditch? Sure Wrath of Cortex wasn't the best, but why abandon him?
They never owned him. Crash was Universal's property. Universal was sold to Vivendi, which was sold to Activision, the current owners who are doing fucking nothing with him.
Man, that is a damn shame.
 

Something Amyss

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I always wonder why Sony shoots their products in the foot and then wonders why they don't sell.

Also, yeah. If they dropped the price on memory cards, I would buy more Vita games and use my Vita more.
 

themilo504

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I think that the reason Sony is largely ignoring the vita, is because they think that the rise of mobile gaming is going to kill handhelds.
 

Evonisia

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If they dropped the price on memory cards and put more effort into the whole porting business to the Vita, I'd go out and get a Vita. Shame that they haven't though, maybe Sony think the handheld market isn't worth putting much effort into now?

Darn it, Jim, don't get me all in nostalgia for my now gone PS1.
 

mike1921

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GonzoGamer said:
eBusiness said:
I was seriously getting convinced that I should buy a Vita during the few seconds between being told that a bunch of PS1 titles were released for free and being told that the "bug" has been fixed.

I guess I should have recognised that that was too good to be true.
I know.
It's like the big ps4 announcement: I was all ready to preorder one (if only for their smart ass attitude towards ms)then they say you'll need to subscribe to plus to play online. So I'm taking a break from consoles.
Out of curiosity, what online games were you planning to play on PS4? Like, when I look at exciting games coming out for next-gen (which I will continue to call next gen at least until price cuts and libraries make them decent purchases) I just see single player on console, the new Infamous the new Final Fantasy the new Kingdom hearts, if you don't have a gaming PC than watch dogs and the yearly AC.

Not trying to sound insulting, I honestly just don't get what multiplayer games would be a deciding factor in a PS4 pre-order
 

ToastiestZombie

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Glad someone here mentioned this. Sony seems to sabotage this thing pretty badly. Other than what you said, Content manager's less than stellar. They only recently upped the limit on apps on the front to more than 100 (perhaps because 20 are now mandatory and can't be removed).
This really bugs me. Why are Near, Friends and Party separate bubbles? Why are Welcome Park and Parental Controls even there? Thank god for folders.
 

Thanatos2k

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Look Sony, if you're going to give up on the Vita, do it. Don't let it flail around in this awful state.
 

XDSkyFreak

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Ha Ha HA ... come on now guys ... do you really think Sony are idiots? Do you really think they will be retarded enough to put the library of the old PS and PS2 and PSP games on the fucking Vita? Grow up boys and girls: Backwards compatibility=less business for new games=less profit for the new console. That is how the minds of Sony and Microsoft work right now. So kiss the chance of seeing all those old and good games goodbye, they can't have old gold selling at discounted price steal the sales from the new shit coming out. (I'm not saying that evey new game released is shit, I'm just saying old one are proven good by time while the new ones are just sequels and rip-offs of the old with only the ocasional original ideea)

Be honest with me: IF you had 60 dolars and had to chose between buying ... let's say FF15 on the new console, or shell out 40 dolars for FF7 on the handheld: which one would you buy? Because I would buy the one I know is good and i enjoyed and let the whateverthefuck experiments of Squeenix gather dust until reviews and a discount. From a bussiness standpoint backwards compatibility is bad business. I mean if they released the PS4 and said you could put in and play all your PS, PS2 and PS3 disks, the number of people actualy buying the new games that come out would be pitifull compares to people buying discounted old games from the old generations that maybe they didn't get the first time. And don't say it would boost sales. You don't understand basic math. People would rush and buy old games that they must sell at lower prices like 40 dolars instead of buying the new ones that cost 60. It's just common sense to buy the proven good cheaper one versus the more expensive new one, at least if you are not the kind of guy with 0 financial smartness or the kind of guy with so much money he can buy an army of slaves to tend to his every need. And for every potential sale they loose 20 dolars and that adds up.

"Oh but they would make it back with selling console units" ... perhaps. My view is anyone who wanted a PS4 got a PS4 anyway, backwards compatible be damned. Maybe they could have swayed a few more MS fanboys to the new console, but even then those guys would mainly buy old PS games to make up for the library they are abandoning. So in the end they would still be making less cash than they would in a world without backwards compatibility. And Jim allready taught us what these blind greedy idiots want: ALL THE MONEY NOW!

I will grant one thing: backwards compatibility would force new games to go on sale sooner to avoid the situation described above and that would be good, and in the long run backwards compatibility and releasing old libraries on new systems would make the industry a better place and bring more cash in the long run. But these fuckers don't care about the long run. They care about how many digits the number meaning profit has at the end of each day and how they can make that number have eveb more digits by any means.

TL;DR: Let it go, it ain't hapening.
 

Citizen Graves

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Goddamn it, I play mobile games on my phone and I'd gladly shell out cash for a Vita to have a proper Handheld Gaming Systems with proper gaming controls to play good games on, if only Sony didn't do all the things that Jim is criticizing in this video.

FFS, Sony!
 

alj

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Sony i want to buy crisis core on my vita i want to buy parasite eve on my vita, the money your money is just sitting there. Do you want this money sony ?
 

Ipsen

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-sigh- Vita...

It's as if Sony puts up a poor act of being a smaller company when they find it convenient; "Sorry, we can't give you enough memory for a games library heavily incentivised to digital copies. Also sorry we can't allow the cross-system functionality we tout for the system in the first place."

"No no, not even if you pay us more money, we can't do it! We just can't handle your demand, customers!"

...Separate thought, I'll go buy Child of Light on my 'dying' Wii U for reminding me of this bullcrap.
 

VonKlaw

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Hang on, I've had Spyro and Crash Bandicoot on my vita for months. Is this purely a US licensing issue (I live in the UK)? If so, this is so damn stupid and yet more proof of why regional game licensing is a godamm moronic idea.
 

carnex

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I might be speaking rubbish bit it just might be that SONY is financially in dire waters for a few years now. All those licensing deals, incentives and hardware costs money, and SONY has very limited amount for the size of the company. If I was in their place I wouldn't bet on Vita generating big returns. It failed to make a dent in Nintendo armor even compared to PSP. Especially since everyone and their grandma think handhelds are on the way out and that 3DS is absolute anomaly to say the least.

I would, however, invest in consumer electronics which are their traditional products which is their traditional product and huge part of the company, PS4 which is a small wonder, music and movies which stay afloat for now but have huge potential for profit and services. And that's exactly what SONY is doing.

I'll give you this. Leaving Vita aside is not what I'm used to see from SONY. I'm used to see them support their products and standards to the bitter end. And Vita does receive some support but it's somewhat limp. I understand why, money and all, but it still makes me sad, makes me feel like old SONY, with insane thinking but code of honor too is dying.
 
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themilo504 said:
I think that the reason Sony is largely ignoring the vita, is because they think that the rise of mobile gaming is going to kill handhelds.
The utter idiocy that they display with this logic is astounding is it not?

We don't want to put effort into our [/b]dedicated mobile games platform[/b] because we think [/b]mobile games[/b] will kill it.

"Um, sir? What if we just let people actually buy all the games we have for it? Seeing how people want them, and they're better games than the mobile sector could ever hope to create on their best day - seems a dead ringer Sir."

"Do they have Micro-Transdactions? We are supposed to be allowed to put those in all of the games now, somebody said so."

"No Sir, they all are sold for about ten dollars, give or take. And the company has [/b]already made millions and millions on them, back when we crushed Nintendo, and made Sega cry in the corner."[/b]

"I'm sorry, I wasn't listening. Lend me a Five-spot, I'm almost done this level of Candy Crush. Have you played this? It's brilliant! We should be making stuff like this!"
 

Wilco86

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Also: Why doesn't Blizzard sell Diablo 1 digitally as a Legacy Game? (Only StarCraft, Warcraft III and Diablo II. Heck, even Warcraft 2 is a classic...)
 

xGrimReaperzZ

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This video was a bit sad, to say the least..

I guess that i'm glad that i didn't invest in a Vita, i always said that i'd wait until it has more worthwhile games than i could count with my fingers and it may never reach that state, sadly.

The 3DS and my PC will do for the time being, then.