Jimquisition: Solving the Sexism Situation

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Xirema said:
I really, 'really' like this guy, but we do need some sort of content disclaimer for him.

Great solution though.
I agree. There should be some sort of disclaimer... I'm not a prude, but there's been a lot of nudity (even if poorly drawn), and I haven't seen a single "WHAT AGE ARE YOU?" thing to try to prevent kids from seeing it.
 

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The daily drop has a better chance of saying something intelligent about the state of modern gaming than this guy.

Has someone in the escapist office figured out they'll make more money using trollbait or something?
 

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Had a good chuckle at this one. I was hopeful after episode 1, and indeed it seems like somebody read the comments and took on some of the criticism; this episode is much slicker all round. Looking forward to the next one! :)

Not crazy about the MS paint drawings, though. I guess I can appreciate that the video needs something to break it up a little.

unabomberman said:
Has Jim ever seriously talked to a woman about this topic before? I mean, where does he get it that the issue would be solved if they exploited everyone "equally"? Or maybe I'm just ignorant and am not aware of the growing trend of women demanding men without their clothes on in their videogames, to get their rocks off. Women, on average, have a different sets of base preferences than those of males.
I'm a woman. When I Play Left 4 Dead 2, I purposefully choose a character other than Ellis so that I can stare at his arse while he runs ahead of me. Have you ever seriously talked to a woman about this topic before?
 

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By the end i was in doubt, was he f****** around or being serious?
 

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MatsVS said:
A different, perhaps more radical, solution:

How 'bout we objectify no one, and only place men or women in revealing clothing when it is tangential to exploring their character and/or fits their cultural/geographical background. You know, as in good storytelling that is inclusive and realistic at the same time.
Why don't we solve world hunger and create world peace while we're at it?
Sorry, didn't mean to be rude. I think the joke in the episode is that stopping objectifying women is just so unrealistic that it likely won't happen. Most people are aware of how and why all the objectifying is wrong, but even today (maybe even more so in some) almost all forms of media objectifies women, and to a certain extent men.
 

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Well. Hm. At least it was shorter this time. My main problem with this guy is he doesn't really add anything to the discussion. Sexism in games is a topic that's been around for ages and I can't say this added anything insightful or really even funny to the discussion. Also there's some creepy pictures and I just don't really see what this show is meant to provide- Moviebob, Yahtzee and the guys from Extra Punctuation talk about the issues with more insight and humor.
 

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The heteronormative perspective here is jarring as all get out. The whole "Men are hardwired to like breasts" argument is particularly bothersome. What about homosexuals? Or (weakly attempts levity) heterosexual "ass men" or "leg men"?

Jim may be trying to tackle important, pertinent issues to the gaming industry and lifestyle, but he is not doing these serious subjects the justice they deserve by presenting them alongside these jokes that stem from a very limited perspective of the world. Yes, he is attempt to tackle the subject from the "troll" angle, and I'll admit, those portions are kinda funny; I did laugh at his proposition for equal objectification across the board. Its clear he's trying to tackle these subjects farcically, but he's coupling this approach with jokes and observations that aren't rooted in farce, e.g. akin to Yahtzee.

It's also an issue that he's not bring much polish to his performance; I think if he were a better actor he MIGHT be able to pull of some of the heteronormative jokes as coming from an ironically progressive standpoint, but as it stands now I don't think he's there yet. I think he COULD, MAYBE, IF HE REEEEAAAAALLY WORKS at improving his performance, make this show work. But unless he does it fairly soon I don't know that he should be kept on the Escapist's payroll.
 

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God that was awful. Even worse than the first one. Old, played-out jokes, uninteresting arguments. The Escapist can put these up all they want, but I won't be watching them.
 

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littlerudi08107 said:
This guy is pretty much piggy-backing off of what commentators like Yahtzee, Moviebob, and the Extra Credits crew have been saying for a while now. The host just seems to be trying too hard to make a name for himself. I mean, The "Jimquisition," seriously? My only serious critique is that host needs to get over himself.
I can't lie,but I think that's part of the "joke"
 

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Zing said:
I'm sorry but how the hell is Jim any more vulgar than Yahtzee? That makes no sense to me at all.
He's not. But Yahtzee's vulgarity has to do with comedic timing and colorful metaphor. Jim's just seems to be slapdash and thrown in there whenever he feels like it and it comes off as him just being a prick. Jim comes off as the kind of guy that has Tourettes. It's just placed in their awkwardly and it doesn't really add anything to the topic as a whole.
 

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Well, at least you had your second chance! Should prob just stick with Destructoid, this isn't really 'Pist material.
 

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MatsVS said:
A different, perhaps more radical, solution:

How 'bout we objectify no one, and only place men or women in revealing clothing when it is tangential to exploring their character and/or fits their cultural/geographical background. You know, as in good storytelling that is inclusive and realistic at the same time.
Why don't we solve world hunger and create world peace while we're at it?
Sorry, didn't mean to be rude. I think the joke in the episode is that stopping objectifying women is just so unrealistic that it likely won't happen. Most people are aware of how and why all the objectifying is wrong, but even today (maybe even more so in some) almost all forms of media objectifies women, and to a certain extent men.[/quote]

That doesn't make it right. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to change it. There was a time when it was just a given the black people weren't as smart as white people or that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. But those ideas changed, there is no institution that is beyond change.
 

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Alphakirby said:
littlerudi08107 said:
This guy is pretty much piggy-backing off of what commentators like Yahtzee, Moviebob, and the Extra Credits crew have been saying for a while now. The host just seems to be trying too hard to make a name for himself. I mean, The "Jimquisition," seriously? My only serious critique is that host needs to get over himself.
I can't lie,but I think that's part of the "joke"
So he's like the Movie Movie's guys that just rehash the same two jokes throughout their "parody" movies? Now I feel almost sorry for him.
 

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fail... again... it might be better if it was a less broad and overly done topic (for his second time) and the fact thats its not entertaining, and weak arguemently. both moviebob and extraceditz have already perfected game discussion shows and this guy is several hundred lbs of unimaginitive boring, in a black jacket.
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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Said and done before hand.

Want to catch my attention? Come up with something that hasn't already been said.

Though this one did make me chuckle at one point. (Punching babes with your cock, think about it......)
 

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"PLEASE NO!~~~~ You don't know what you are unleashing... women players population will increase! this male dominated hobby would be flooded with female players, and we'll have to suffer the grotesque imagery that women had to suffered through! no!~ half naked guys on games, showing off their man parts...in erotic ways...while killing zombies... shower scenes with men... men showing more "meat"... NOOOOO things would look soooo homo!~" (homophobic)

LOL good job!~ will keep watching...
 

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This guy's opinion is the closest to my own (assuming he isn't being ironic) and he does approach the problem from a different angle than extra credits, but I think the format of the show is a little cheap. Maybe a written column would be better.
 

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Bostur said:
Nice to see Jim back. I was worried the comments from his last show might have discouraged him.

Also contrary to popular belief, watching penises do not make you blind, or gay, or turn you into a mutant.
Good thing too, otherwise The Lost and Damned would make all GTA players spiral into a pit of despair.

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Still, I'm glad Jim's show will be a regular thing as well. Seems it might be bi-weekly at this point, but that's fine if it is.

The sexism bit in this one made me laugh a few times, especially his bit about putting men in loincloths as well as women. Appealing to both sides would be interesting, but I think he meant that we should grow up a bit more on the issue first, then work to correct it in games. I would agree.