Jimquisition: Steve Jobs and iOS -- Videogame Related

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Steve Jobs and iOS -- Videogame Related

Over the years, Jim Sterling has seen many games proudly proclaiming their disinterest in Apple products and smugly questioning why such products should be considered videogame related topics. This only intensified when Steve Jobs died and those same people demanded answers -- why is Steve Jobs related to videogames at all? Well, the Jimquisition will answer!

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wooty

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I've been watching this from the start and ONLY just realized that the background song is Jesters of the Moon!

I'm now off to beat myself over the head with my Princess Garnet model as penance
 

Movement_Machine

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Good episode Jim. I've spent more time playing Steam Birds on my Ipad than i have playing most 60 dollar console games and Steam Birds was only 5 bucks =3
 
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I haven't played any iOS games, and I don't intend to start anytime soon, but I certainly agree that they're having an impact on the portable gaming industry.

For me personally, I don't really care about being able to play 5 minutes of Angry Birds, or any other game that essentially exists to kill time while on the bus or train, but I can understand while others would.
 

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Similar to the Wii The iOS platform has expanded the audiences exposed to video gaming and that is not a bad thing. I agree with Jim and agree with what Apple has contributed to this.
 

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I like to call them "Gaming Hipsters" Douche bags self assured of the superiority of whatever type of game THEY play and the inferiority of games THEY don't. They think that the main stream push of games is ruining what makes them superior by giving it to everyone. Because when everyone has something, it's not special anymore, and gaming in their eyes was what made them special. So they rage in response.
 

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This is the second time he used the "A classic game is like that, so this current game/future game, which is essentially like that, has to be good too"-Argument. The first time being with dysnasty Warrior.

And frankly, I consider this argument to be rubish. Dances with Wolves is a classical movie. Yet Avatar recieved Flogging for ripping of the story. Why was Avatar a succesful movie nontherless? Because it had innovation in other areas.

We can not judge the future/present by measuring it with the standards of the distant past. That's not how a medium evolves.
 

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I never quite got the hate for iOS games as well (mainly because I haven't seen a lot).

Small games offered on the iPhone and iPad are a preference to an audience, and it's pretty successful. I won't complain if something good resonates with an audience.
 

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The iPhone has had some great stuff on it and is one of the best platforms out there. But Apple and Jobs especially never intended it to be so. The whole gaming thing took them by surprise and Job himself said countless times he wasn't interested in Video Games as a market. Apple have never designed a platform with gaming in mind at any stage, they've always been more focused on lifestyle apps and the gaming versitility was a by-product of that. So Jobs and Apple were accidental (even reluctant) gaming greats. But none the less they are gaming greats.

Just think what would happen if they started publishing, or even developing their own games?
 

Zhukov

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I'm one of those people who is rather dismissive of iPhone games, and mobile gaming in general.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against them. Angry Birds and the like can be a good time. It's just not the kind of good time I look for in a game. They can't provide the kind of thing that Mass Effect 2 and Half Life 2 can, at least not yet.
 

gameoni

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Good one Jim and I'm not just saying that because I am typing this on my iPad.

Mid-Boss said:
I like to call them "Gaming Hipsters" Douche bags self assured of the superiority of whatever type of game THEY play and the inferiority of games THEY don't. They think that the main stream push of games is ruining what makes them superior by giving it to everyone. Because when everyone has something, it's not special anymore, and gaming in their eyes was what made them special. So they rage in response.
Mid-boos I like the way you put that becuase it is not different then what ppl say when a local band makes it big and ppl state hating on it saying they "sold out"
 

zelda2fanboy

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Best Steve Jobs pseudo eulogy/retrospective I've seen thus far. And announcing that you just want a free ipad is icing on the cake. Someone give him an ipad 2!
 

NinjaDeathSlap

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I am perfectly comfortable with Apple as a major gaming competitor, so long as they don't do what they've done with everything else and kill every other competitor under the weight of a million tea-tray shallow gimmicks. I will gladly accept Apple as being on par with Microsoft and Sony, so long as in doing so I'm not allowing apple to kill off console gaming completely and turn the whole medium into single-function iOS casual games. They can kill the DS and PSP in the handheld markets if they want, but the'd better not start harming my consoles/PC.
 

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If I were a top dog at Apple, I'd give you an I-pad <3
On a side note I've seen a lot of hateful comments (not necessarily here) about Jobs. Whilst I don't really like Apple's business model I can appreciate what that man turned that company in to. You have to have some respect for that. It's more than most of us have and will ever achieve.

I would also argue that historically Apple contributed a fair bit to gaming in others ways too, such as making the mouse mainstream; now the staple of PC gaming. Bungie started out making software purely for Apple PC's too.

Good show. Last bit had me chuckling.
 

Tich

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While I agree that Apple has been a force to be reckoned with on the game market. People have to remember that getting one of their products will set you back more money then a 3DS. Especially if you are getting an iPhone or iPad. Which hardly compensates for the low cost of games on the platform. In fact, I'd want to state that it might be slightly unreasonable for a platform like iOS to charge people more for the apps too.

Not that I want to be negative. about it. Could still buy an Android phone.
 

Unhappy Crow

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I use my iPod more than my DS to play games when I'm on the bus and train. That is because I can buy more games for a price lower than the normal price of a DS game, or I could download a free game. Not only that, I can listen to music while playing these games. I could do the same with my DS, but it's less of a hassle when I have one electronic instead of two.