Jimquisition: The Positive Side of Mass Effect 3's Ending Drama

[pandasaw]

I am waiting for the real ending. Jim was indoctrinated the whole time.

 

[Avatar Roku]

Jim sterling everyone, the only contributor that has actually gotten in trouble for attitude on the forums. Not that it's unexpected I guess.

Actually I got suspended for 5 days once for attitude on the forum

Well, you're an active member of the forums (and you were before you were a content creator), whereas to my knowledge, Jim is not except in his own threads.

 

[orangeapples]

I found it funny how one of your points in the vid is: Bioware is not ever going to remake the ending.

and a top news post on the site is: BioWare "Considering" Calls for New Mass Effect 3 Ending.

Considering does not automatically imply that they will. Though if I were Bioware at this point I'd probably replace all of the endings with something like this:

Just because I'd consider it hilarious.

Oh, I read the news article and it was piecing together two kinda unrelated comments from bioware. Doesn't make the idea that Jim and The Escapist newsroom are somehow trying to undermine one another any less funny to me.

 

[irishda]

Jim sterling everyone, the only contributor that has actually gotten in trouble for attitude on the forums. Not that it's unexpected I guess.

Actually I got suspended for 5 days once for attitude on the forum

Nobody likes a one-upper.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Jim sterling everyone, the only contributor that has actually gotten in trouble for attitude on the forums. Not that it's unexpected I guess.

Actually I got suspended for 5 days once for attitude on the forum

Nobody likes a one-upper.

My one-up is bigger than yours.

 

[irishda]

"It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are, or whether you got ending A, B, or C." - Casey Hudson


I'm not trying to start an argument, but here you are.

Thanks! You got a reference link to go with that per chance?

You won't find an argument out of me (yet) because I literally don't know much on this specific subject. I didn't even really know that they promised some kind of ending at all until this thread.

Mind that statement you provided doesn't really seem to promise anything either, but it's hard to tell what he's actually saying without context. Hence why a link to an actual article that came from would be appreciated.
I'm just trying to see where these dudes are coming from at the moment

http://www.oxm.co.uk/37677/mass-effect-3-citadel-is-bigger-than-ever-endings-will-be-more-sophisticated/

Thought I would help because I was wondering the same thing for quite some time when people were saying it.

This is kind of why Jim Sterling made the point in an earlier article that gamers who aren't considered "hardcore", who don't pay attention to who makes what, are smarter than the more active crowd. How many times have I read promises from devs about "what this game was going to do" or "how blown away gamers would be"? It's all hype from people who truly believe it's not hype because this is their baby, their project.

In the end it's all grand ideals tempered by finite resources, and no game ever lives up to the hype that the pre-gaming communities pile onto it. I can only hope this is a lesson to many Mass Effect fans. Take what people say about anything, not just games but movies, books, shows, anything, with a grain of salt until you experience it for yourself.

I see a lot of people complain about what they were promised, but how many people complain who didn't listen to any promises?

 

[artanis_neravar]

never promised you a different ending to the one you got.

[edit] someone enlighten me: what ending was promised and where?
(sounds a bit strange off the bat - divulging an ending to a game before it's release...)

"It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are, or whether you got ending A, B, or C." - Casey Hudson


I'm not trying to start an argument, but here you are.

That doesn't say you won't have to choose between ending A, B, or C just that you won't be trying to figure out which one that you got.

 

[nightwolf667]

"It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are, or whether you got ending A, B, or C." - Casey Hudson


I'm not trying to start an argument, but here you are.

Thanks! You got a reference link to go with that per chance?

You won't find an argument out of me (yet) because I literally don't know much on this specific subject. I didn't even really know that they promised some kind of ending at all until this thread.

Mind that statement you provided doesn't really seem to promise anything either, but it's hard to tell what he's actually saying without context. Hence why a link to an actual article that came from would be appreciated.
I'm just trying to see where these dudes are coming from at the moment

http://www.oxm.co.uk/37677/mass-effect-3-citadel-is-bigger-than-ever-endings-will-be-more-sophisticated/

Thought I would help because I was wondering the same thing for quite some time when people were saying it.

That's more proof that Casey Hudson should never be allowed near a microphone or a reporter...ever. Actually, let's put the whole dev team down for that and all the different studios.

Honestly, I've had issues with Bioware over their endless and sometimes overzealous hype. It's starting to work its way up to Fable levels without a great deal of effort and without the Peter M fun. At least we know Peter is crazy, with Bioware it just seems like they say whatever they think will help them sell the most copies and not what has any bearing on reality. We promise X and deliver Applesauce while coming off as seemingly reasonable people.

On the same subject, thank you Jim! It's good to know that the gaming community has come so far that they may now be just as ridiculous as everyone else.

 

[mjc0961]

Interesting thoughts. I still didn't like the ending, though.

never promised you a different ending to the one you got.

[edit] someone enlighten me: what ending was promised and where?
(sounds a bit strange off the bat - divulging an ending to a game before it's release...)

Well, let's just put it this way:

Spoiler

If you need proof that he actually said that: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/01/10/mass1525-effect-3-cas5ey-fdsafdhudson-interviewae.aspx?PostPageIndex=2

 

[sifffffff]

"Cringemaking as some of the fans have been"

What about the "journalists" making fun of people for donating to charity instead of running a DDOS on a website or flat out ignoring that people didn't like the endings for more than "They aren't happy."

Would you characterize that as "cringemaking" Jimbo?

 

[artanis_neravar]

Interesting thoughts. I still didn't like the ending, though.

never promised you a different ending to the one you got.

[edit] someone enlighten me: what ending was promised and where?
(sounds a bit strange off the bat - divulging an ending to a game before it's release...)

Well, let's just put it this way:

Spoiler

If you need proof that he actually said that: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/01/10/mass1525-effect-3-cas5ey-fdsafdhudson-interviewae.aspx?PostPageIndex=2

Ok, re-read that quote and tell me where he says you won't be picking from ending A,B,or C. He just says that you won't be able to say which ending you got, which is true because you directly choose which ending is your ending.

 

[ManupBatman]

Stupid episode. Rubbish topic. I vote he makes a new one where he spends the last 5 minutes doing the macarena. I am a fan, I made this show successful. APPEASE ME!

 

[Dandark]

Well im looking on the positive side now XD

Thanks for the video, that was a great episode.
Thank God for Jim.

 

[AbstractStream]

This...is a really good way to view the whole Mass Effect uproar.
I was starting to get upset with all the complaining but now I feel better. Good job, Jim

 

[Abedeus]

anc[is]I was honestly expecting you to just troll and flame bait for 5 minutes. Thank you for not doing that.

He already did that once on youtube.

Interesting thoughts. I still didn't like the ending, though.

never promised you a different ending to the one you got.

[edit] someone enlighten me: what ending was promised and where?
(sounds a bit strange off the bat - divulging an ending to a game before it's release...)

Well, let's just put it this way:

Spoiler

If you need proof that he actually said that: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/01/10/mass1525-effect-3-cas5ey-fdsafdhudson-interviewae.aspx?PostPageIndex=2

Ok, re-read that quote and tell me where he says you won't be picking from ending A,B,or C. He just says that you won't be able to say which ending you got, which is true because you directly choose which ending is your ending.

I think YOU should re-read that quote. He said that there won't be a situation where you can pick A, B, C and name them.

We can name them.

Or we can give a quote where they promise 16 different endings. Even if you consider 3 Red endings ("Good", Bad, Vaporization) and 2 blue endings, that's 6 endings total (5 + 1 green).

 

[Proverbial Jon]

We're not angry because we didn't get the ended we wanted.

We're angry because we didn't get an ending.

 

[Abedeus]

We're not angry because we didn't get the ended we wanted.

We're angry because we didn't get an ending.

Dude that would require people to actually understand why we're angry. It's much easier to use strawman arguments to get a source of cheap jokes and videos.

 

[Fr]anc[is]

anc[is]I was honestly expecting you to just troll and flame bait for 5 minutes. Thank you for not doing that.

He already did that once on youtube.

Do you have a link?

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

Great episode, Jim. That made me look a little more kindly on the whole ME3 ending discussion. Kuddo's to you for at least trying to find a bright side to it.

But, mentioning tvtropes is an incredibly evil act, Jim, you magnificent bastard.

Captcha: words of wisdom
Hmm, how apt.

 

[RastaBadger]

So how many people stopped 30 seconds in and looked up the Jimquisition on TV Tropes before watching the rest?