Jimquisition: Videogames Are Not Movies, Get Over It
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...The box isn't amazing, it just covered with oragomi stuff but, I use it to store ALIENS comics...
I'm with you so far...
Interesting new voice on the site, curious to see how this turns out.
I'm with you so far...
Interesting new voice on the site, curious to see how this turns out.
Weak video with a weak point delivered in a weak argument. No duh, a game is not a movie, but guess what, they both can be narratives. So using the three act structure in a game is not a bad idea. Using dynamic characters that change throughout the gameplay and develop is not a bad idea. Using antagonists with clear plot points with the protagonist is not a bad idea.
Bioware has been using that stuff to pump out game after game and it just so happens that the last game they made Dragon age 2, which is least like a movie, is the worst. Are games movies? No. Should games take some cues from movies to better deliver their messages? Yes.
Bioware has been using that stuff to pump out game after game and it just so happens that the last game they made Dragon age 2, which is least like a movie, is the worst. Are games movies? No. Should games take some cues from movies to better deliver their messages? Yes.
This would be a lot better as just a forum post like what Yahtzee and Movie Bob does between movies. At least they as well as Extra Credits provides some entertaining pictures, I don't want to sit and listen to you rant when I could just easily read it, that way I can skip to the fucking point.
Quite frankly, yes. And I don't mean that all games should strive to be open world complete freedom types, but that games should not compromise the fact that they are games to try and emulate films. Which, shock motherfucking horror, was the point of this video.Jumplion said:
There are other, better ways to blend narrative into games that do not sacrifice interactivity. The interrupt actions in Mass Effect 2, for instance, allow you to control cutscenes to better impose your version of Shepard onto the universe. The scene in Metal Gear Solid where Gray Fox is trapped against a wall by Metal Gear and although you can line up a shot Snake refuses to fire and kill Gray Fox along with Liquid, but you still have to pull the trigger.
That kind of interactivity with a narrative is what games can do that other media can't, and they do it without sacrificing the rest of the game.
If you pare the interaction down to the absolute minimum as in Heavy Rain and it's predecessors in the interactive movie sphere (because no, it's not innovative, the old Blade Runner game did branching narrative and was still more of a game. This stuff has been done before, it didn't catch on because it turns out it's not very good), you've lost all of what makes games worthwhile and interesting, and all you've done is made a crap movie with multiple endings.
Sorry, not all that impressed. Maybe it's because I don't like seeing the face of someone who does video game related content... or movies.
English moviebob? He's right though but the big problem is that they need something to guide them and there is a lack of creativity there and the extra credits guy said awhile back the writers for these games were often used to the book or the television or even the movie theatre as a medium rather than games.
Ehhh, not really a lot to keep my attention and it seems to be just a combination of Moviebob's style of ranting with Extra Credit's attempt to educate. Its a good idea, but it just bland when compared to what's already around. Not to mention that its on a topic I don't care for.
New video series? Let's try it out!
*Clicks.*
Oh, no. I've seen this guy before and he grates upon my soul.
*Close browser window.*
Sorry, nope. This is the third time I've seen this guy and the third time I couldn't sit through the entire video. He could be agreeing with me completely and I still couldn't stand him. Presentation no different than any other Youtube vlogger and yet more annoying.
Pass.
*Clicks.*
Oh, no. I've seen this guy before and he grates upon my soul.
*Close browser window.*
Sorry, nope. This is the third time I've seen this guy and the third time I couldn't sit through the entire video. He could be agreeing with me completely and I still couldn't stand him. Presentation no different than any other Youtube vlogger and yet more annoying.
Pass.
I'm not impressed.
It's five minutes of repetition. In the same time frame, things could have been fleshed out far better. And they really needed to be, because I presently disagree with a substantial amount of the stuff stated in the video. Even in the few cases where example was brought up, it was brought up with respect to arguments that couldn't really be helped by example-giving, and the example was usually nonrepresentative, such as using The Room as a representative for film storytelling.
Also, the low production value combined with the angry and vulgar tone made for a rather painful effect. Even if the argument was good, I think I would have very strongly disliked the video.
It's five minutes of repetition. In the same time frame, things could have been fleshed out far better. And they really needed to be, because I presently disagree with a substantial amount of the stuff stated in the video. Even in the few cases where example was brought up, it was brought up with respect to arguments that couldn't really be helped by example-giving, and the example was usually nonrepresentative, such as using The Room as a representative for film storytelling.
Also, the low production value combined with the angry and vulgar tone made for a rather painful effect. Even if the argument was good, I think I would have very strongly disliked the video.
From now on when picking shows, I think the Escapist should follow this standard: If the video was presented by a nobody as an entry in their annual film festival, would it win? If the answer is no, then there is a serious problem. This would not have even made first pick status in the film festival. I'm really stressing to think of what the benefit of adding this to the lineup is.
-Dear Escapist Staff
If I want an intelligent discussion about video games, I'll watch Extra Credits.
If I want a good rage about a subject that I care about, I'll watch Moviebob and his projects.
If I want excessive references to fucking and penises, I'll watch Zero Punctuation.
This guy is just an asshole who brings nothing substantive or new to the site. If he were posting something like this on the forums, he would be suspended in a heartbeat. Why are you paying him for this?
-The Gentleman
If I want an intelligent discussion about video games, I'll watch Extra Credits.
If I want a good rage about a subject that I care about, I'll watch Moviebob and his projects.
If I want excessive references to fucking and penises, I'll watch Zero Punctuation.
This guy is just an asshole who brings nothing substantive or new to the site. If he were posting something like this on the forums, he would be suspended in a heartbeat. Why are you paying him for this?
-The Gentleman
