Jimquisition: Xbox One out of Ten

[WeepingAngels]

Yeah, I don't see any value in the new Xbox. I don't watch TV and I haven't paid a cable/sat bill in over 7 years. I can get Netflix on my current consoles and the PS3 lets me watch DVD's and Blu Rays.

BTW, do you know you are quite popular on NeoGaf Jim?

 

[Another]

As someone who doesn't watch tv until it hits netflix, doesn't play console games online, doesn't like sports, and doesn't have the money to pay full price for new games, I have to say this: I am not even angry.

Know why?

Because it is clear that I am no longer the target demographic. I am not the consumer they are looking for. And considering I have 3 other options (PC, PS4, WiiU), that's fine. My only fear is that this console does not tank and other companies go on to copy it. This thing needs to get thrashed at market.

 

[TK421]

WHAT'S THIS?JIM BEING A DUMBASS?NO WAY?!
I like how he said this is gonna be a console for the rich and he doesn't even know the price.I also like how he went on to bash a console for having MORE OPTIONS!HOW IS HAVING TV,INTERNET,MOVIES,MUSIC BAD?!

Did you actually watch the episode. He prefaced the comment about it being for the rich by highlighting the casualties of having an always on console, most of which were either of a charitable nature or a cost saving nature, such as game renatl services, believe it or not not everyone is going to stump up cash for every game and prefer to rent a game to see if it is worth the cash.

As for the console with more options again he prefaced these contents by highlighting the fact that most smart TVs already do these things, highlighting that he doesn't need an XBox to do the majority of the things that MS highlighted but the XBox does need a TV to do ANYTHING.

So who is the real dumbass here then?

Hey man, don't feed the trolls. If you ignore them, they get bored and go away.

OT: Jim did a great job this time around.
I hope that E3 doesn't help the situation, and Microsoft has to get out of the console business for good.

 

[Aeonknight]

WHAT'S THIS?JIM BEING A DUMBASS?NO WAY?!
I like how he said this is gonna be a console for the rich and he doesn't even know the price.I also like how he went on to bash a console for having MORE OPTIONS!HOW IS HAVING TV,INTERNET,MOVIES,MUSIC BAD?!?In my opinion,the focus of the conference was not good but the console IS! You HAVE to have these features to compete,you can't just be a OH I CAN PLAY GAMES box anymore.We all know that the xbox always has and WILL have good exclusive I.P.Halo,Gears of war,Crackdown,alan wake,quantum break might be good,RYSE and they might even bring out some rare games that HOPEFULLY won't suck!
All in all,i hate when people bash shit that hasn't even been released.Give it the benefit of the doubt.At the end of the day,the deciding features will be A)price B)games and C)what else it can do And for now both the PS4 and xbox one are looking good.In my opinion,the price won't be THAT expensive since sony said they are gonna learn from their mistakes and the xbox usually isn't that expensive.Also,i REALLY dislike Jim sterling,the guy who gave a game 10/10 JUST for the music and jokes,i'm looking at you, dumb deadly premonition review.Jim be sayin' shit just to say controversial shit.

Careful, your fanboy is showing.

You can claim that having options isn't a bad thing, but when you're looking for convenience (which is the only thing consoles have over PC gaming) of just putting the disc in and sitting back on the couch, adding a bunch of superfluous menus is just annoying. But that's just opinion, here's where it really fails:

-Always online console. As Jim said, there are people w/ crap internet out there, even in urban/suburban areas. You don't have to work for an ISP to hear the horror stories people put out w/ having unstable connections that disconnect them often, routers that aren't working properly, etc. And if your XboxOne can't connect to the server for a day, it bricks itself until it can. Convenience!

-Making you pay a fee to play used games on the console. Who thought this was a good idea? That's actually worse than EA's DLC/registration practices, because at least then my money is going to someone who puts out games I like (both EA and the developers.) I'm not paying the fucking console manufacturer to play used games when it's main priority is to play games. Also, I don't care how much you hate GameStop for what it does, the fact they are still in business means there is a market for used games. And XboxOne just gave the finger to that market.

I'm sure Xbox fanboys such as yourself will pick this up anyway. Your money, your decision and all that. But as someone who is impartial to either system (I have both in other words), Xbox just convinced me not to buy their next console. Getting CoD first isn't enough of a selling point.

If they retract some of these idiotic decisions, it may be salvagable. If they don't, then exactly one thing and one thing alone would redeem it:
Xbox Live being free.

Until then, PS4 beats it hands down.

 

[Stryc9]

So, it turns out that German guy that was on my local news a few months ago was right. Microsoft needs to get out of the console market and go back to doing what they did best, making operating systems that people actually wanted to use, making productivity software that people actually wanted to use, and making some of the best PC hardware on the market. That, and occasionally shitting out some pretty decent PC games that when Microsoft was at it's height wasn't crippled with shit DRM like Games "not" for Windows Live.

 

[sid]

I need to stop watching Jim and Yahtzee's poetry immediately before other videos. Now no matter what either of them says my head just automatically looks for rhymes.

 

[Lovely Mixture]

So, it turns out that German guy that was on my local news a few months ago was right. Microsoft needs to get out of the console market and go back to doing what they did best, making operating systems that people actually wanted to use, making productivity software that people actually wanted to use, and making some of the best PC hardware on the market. That, and occasionally shitting out some pretty decent PC games that when Microsoft was at it's height wasn't crippled with shit DRM like Games "not" for Windows Live.

I agree. That's what makes this thing kind of sad.

I don't want any of the big three developers to fail so hard that they have to fold, they have done good work in the past even if they have also made fuck awful decisions (then and now).

Best episode ever just for the Interstella 5555 image!!!

That cover was fucking badass. I hadn't seen it before.

It's a shame,really. Also,if I may pose a question to your wisdom,Jim,my PSP broke not that long ago. Should I replace it,or just get a Vita?

If I may add my two cents. I would replace it unless there's some exclusives for the Vita that you REALLY want.

Primarily cause you won't be able to use your SD cards with the Vita, hence you'll end up spending a lot more money for a full upgrade.

 

[The White Hunter]

Xbox One: It only makes sense as a Rube Goldberg-worthy plot to invigorate PC gaming and sell Windows machines.

I hope this whole LInux for gaming thing takes off if thats the case.

 

[The White Hunter]

- Catastrophically bad reveal conference
- THE PRESS WEREN'T THE ONES CHEERING AT THE CONFERENCE
- No B/C
- Semi-Always Online
- Can't work without Kinect
- Live TV requires separate device and it's U.S. only
- Second hand games fee may or may not be a thing, tho probably is since it was the VP of Microsoft who says it is the case. Though Xbox Support contradicted itself like a champ on their twitter on this matter.
- Fee is price of full game, btw.
- No replacable hard drive
- Xbox One won't allow indy devs to self-publish games
- Sony stocks go up, Microsoft stocks go down.
- Fish. Moving out of the way.

It's safe to say that the Xbawks Juan is as good as dead unless Microsoft engages in a massive overhaul for E3. Or before E3 even.

Rest In Peace,Xbox. Remember when the 360 was DOMINATING the PS3? It had XBLA,some form of B/C,and even good games for it. Now? Talk about a role reversal. I like and respect MS and everything,but as it is now? I'd rather go for the system with more options. I also hear the Xbox One will have a porn streaming service. Just another sign they've thrown their hands in the air to give up. I think I'll wait for all this hooplah to die down,then see if I want one then. But then the Xbox One has 8 disadvantages,whereas the PS4 has 1. I think Nintendo and Sony got this. Captcha: "Options. In Your Hands." Indeed. I want options.

That PS4 advantage I assume is the lack of direct backwards compatibility? Because thats all I can think of off the top of my head, I mean if you don't like the "Share" button you can just ignore it. I'm no drooling facebook imbecile but I can certainly think of uses for the Share button: Glitches, for example, it's basically F12 for consoles...

 

[Mr_Terrific]

Yeah...things will not change in a week or 3. MS was actually shocked people could give a shit less about that entire hour. An hour that they even pushed back a month just so they'll have enough content to fill an hour. Just so CoD could show up with a dog...I mean, instead of fixing the lag or game breaking bugs in all CoDs, they stuck a dog in a mocap suit so CoDogs could look more doggish at the Xbone reveal.

Now...on to the real business. After watching the Sony reveal Jimquisition, I said some bad, albeit truthful, things about Jim. I said there would be no ripping of MS and I was wrong....this time.

 

[Hastln]

I love the current Xbox, but the new one seams like it wont really be a thing for gamers, for the first time in years, Im starting to lean toward Nintendo, its a strange, but wondrous feeling

 

[Stryc9]

So, it turns out that German guy that was on my local news a few months ago was right. Microsoft needs to get out of the console market and go back to doing what they did best, making operating systems that people actually wanted to use, making productivity software that people actually wanted to use, and making some of the best PC hardware on the market. That, and occasionally shitting out some pretty decent PC games that when Microsoft was at it's height wasn't crippled with shit DRM like Games "not" for Windows Live.

I agree. That's what makes this thing kind of sad.

I don't want any of the big three developers to fail so hard that they have to fold, they have done good work in the past even if they have also made fuck awful decisions (then and now).

As a company Microsoft probably isn't going anywhere anytime soon, most of their products still sell reasonably well, well enough to keep them in business at least. The thing that it seems people are forgetting, and I'll let it slide a little bit because this is a gaming website, is that Microsoft's first priority ISN'T GAMING, they only really dipped their toe into in any real way when they released the first Xbox. Microsoft's main priority is Windows and Office and they used to make some damn good hardware, keyboards, mice and some of their joysticks were pretty damn good if you were right handed I guess, but they don't even really do hardware anymore.

The management at Microsoft has really just gone to shit over the last few years, they used to be the people that everyone tried to emulate and now they're the ones playing catch up. The two biggest reasons the Zune was such a flop was it was too late to the market and it was advertised so fucking horribly it's not even funny. They wasted somewhere around $3 million to pay Jerry Fucking Seinfeld to appear on the screen for about 20 seconds and say a bunch of shit that didn't even advertise the product let alone make any sense at all and that was it. If they had done pretty much anything else with that money the Zune would have been a contender until smartphones erased the need for a dedicated mp3 player, those things were fucking great, I'm on my second one though I now only really use it for podcasts.

 

[OverEZ]

Introducing the next generation of Xbox buyers: The willfully uninformed!

 

[go-10]

wouldn't it be better if Jim was a console and we could all put our stuff inside him at the same time to our hearts content

 

[MarsProbe]

Does anyone really expect that Microsoft are going to reveal 15 games at E3 exceptional enough to eradicate the memory of this failure of a launch? Anyone?

Frankly I'd be amazed if they didn't spend half the E3 Presentation talking up their awesome new system that lets Americans watch TV on their TV.

But remember! 8 of them will be brand new IPs! Presumably the rest will be made up of the likes of Fable, Halo, Gears of War and all the other tentpole X-Box franchises we have come to know.

Also, does anyone think that in the Quantum Break trailer, after the clip changes to a shot of a ship crashing into a bridge that the little girl pulls an egg out from behind her mums ear? The game is actually about the rise of a young street magician who eventually gets involved in a conspiracy that spans both time and space, which she must use her amazing sleight of hand abilities to get to the bottom of. That's what I'm going with for now, anyway.

 

[chiefohara]

Im a sad panda

Sad because Jim is predominantly right.

I Went from PS2 to Xbox 360, mainly cause the PS3 was too expensive initially... when it shed its backwards compatibility (one of my main reasons for saving up for it) i had no reason to buy it. A cousin sold me his Xbox 360 for half price and i just built up my game library from there.

After several years i have Xbox Live content and a good library of games like Mass Effect, Cods and the Fallouts which i know i will play again in the future but I can't play these on Xbox One. I was going to get one just to have a machine to give these games a longer shelf life in case my 360 finally gives up the ghost, but no backwards compatibility...

Online registration... stupid idea (I See EA's filthy paw in this) .... i rent games before i buy. I also buy second hand games. Taking these options away from me isn't going to force me to buy more new games, it'll do the opposite, make me a more discriminating customer and less willing to take chances on new IP's. I bought Mass Effect 2 and 3 new because i bought Mass Effect 1 second hand. I also bought the Mass Effect 1 DLC. EA made a lot of money from one customer because their product was sold second hand, otherwise i'd never have tried it. Same with Dragon Age, i loved the second hand copy so much i went off and bought the Game again new with all the DLC attached.

If you want to flog new IP's then you need more people to try them, not less.

Regarding all the TV stuff.... i already have one thanks. Operating a remote control doesn't really stress me that much, Im also not really into American Sports.

Skype? my mobile phone already does that, unless everyone and their mother has Xbox One and i can skype my entire regular contacts list to the point it replaces landlines.... i don't see it working... not this generation at least, Not a desperately bad idea though... but i don't see it happening this generation because not everyone everywhere is connected to the internet 100% of the time. I only use Skype to talk to my GF because she is out of the country, everyone else i just phone the regular way.

Internet exploration... unless Xbox One comes with a keyboard, i won't really be using it for that. I like my forums.

Other posters have nailed it on the head i think by saying Gamers aren't the target audience here... Problem i see for Xbox One here is that non gamer people will still see Xbox as something for gamers only and bypass it.

I genuinely wanted microsoft to do well for the next gen... and i don't see it happening unless E3 is literally sex on legs with its games

Im a sad panda