Jimquisition: Xbox One out of Ten

[darth gditch]

Normally, I play devil's advocate for the companies, because usually I feel like people expect what are actually unreasonable things from them.

But in this case, wow. This just sucks. It's not even a game console anymore. Why should I even buy it?

The worst part about this for me (and this is sad) is that I just really like the Xbox controller and I rather dislike the Sony controllers. But wow, if I even buy a next gen console, it'll probably be the PS4, if it means I can still lend games to friends.

 

[Vault Citizen]

It is probably for the best that Jim isn't our hitman, if he was I imagine that we would have to start paying him.

 

[Necrofudge]

I won't be buying any consoles for the new generation, but this whole thing still makes me sad.

I mean, of all the names to call it, did they have to use Xbox One?

What am I supposed to call the original Xbox? Just "Xbox?" That gets confusing! Everybody already calls the Xbox 360 an Xbox...

"First Xbox" sounds awkward and the "black Xbox" was thrown out the window when Microsoft repainted the 360, so I'm stuck here.

Screw you Microsoft, and your weird naming practices too!

 

[Drejer43]

But as a Sony user and a computer convert, hay lifes good. Shame really, Xbox has been an interesting rival, a rival that kept sony honest at times.

My first console was the PS1 though I primarily use PC now. The old sony fanboy in me is glad to see the xbox flop, but the sensible person in me is afraid that sony is going to become arrogant again without a competitor. There is a possibility that if the Wii U dont start getting good games soon the PS4 will dominate this console gen. Not like the PS2, but still.

 

[Ken_J]

MWA HA HA! I have a Wii U. You Have no power here Microsoft.

 

[Billy3B]

I called it, years ago during the start of the 7th gen i said the 8th gen would be the last for gaming consoles. That by that time the differences between PCs and consoles would be too small to warrant the making of a gaming console instead of gaming centered PCs. neither the PS4 nor the Xbox one, can really justify their existence when they fill the same role as any decent PC. It is only through niche gaming peripherals (Wii, Kinect or Move)that a separate console system might survive and even that will quickly fold in to PC or smart TV. I guarantee people will finds ways to load Android or Linux on the 8th gen consoles to replace the clunky console OS rendering them in effect PCs.

 

[Ghored]

Not sure if anyones noticed by this point or if it's just me, but that intro was like, so incredibly textbook tsundere. I approve.

OT: To be fair, that dog model focus caught my attention so badly because it was the only other thing mentioned besides them trying to sell us a Comcast One.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

I'm just done. They have gone bat shit insane. Bets down on how often the Xbox Live server is down therefore denying you any ability to play on the console.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Absolutely spot-on, Jim. I mean, it's one thing to have Nintendo and Sony eat Microsoft's lunch... but this looks more like Microsoft is FORCE-FEEDING it to them.

I've been exclusively a PC gamer for years, but I've always felt there was a place for consoles in gaming- including their ease of use, and their market for trading games. Rather than exploit these strengths, Microsoft seems hellbent on obliterating them entirely in order to hop on every last profitable trend (games "in the cloud", streaming media, social interaction, etc.) at once. But the problem with being a jack of all trades is that you're a master of none, and expecting people to consolidate everything they do onto your hardware and all its picayune restrictions and requirements (mandatory Kinect connection? What the hell?!) just because "It's XBox" isn't exactly a recipe of success.

At first, i didn't believe it: http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/139706-microsofts-new-kinect-patent-goes-big-brother-will-spy-on-you-for-the-mpaa

...holy crap, is that actually a thing? Well, the mandatory Kinect connection suddenly makes a lot more (spine-chilling) sense. Console gamers, are you going to put up with this? I can write all the words I want, but it's your money that decides if this kind of thing succeeds or fails. Just how badly do you want that next Call of Duty game?

 

[OZ7O]

WHAT'S THIS?JIM BEING A DUMBASS?NO WAY?!
I like how he said this is gonna be a console for the rich and he doesn't even know the price.I also like how he went on to bash a console for having MORE OPTIONS!HOW IS HAVING TV,INTERNET,MOVIES,MUSIC BAD?!?In my opinion,the focus of the conference was not good but the console IS! You HAVE to have these features to compete,you can't just be a OH I CAN PLAY GAMES box anymore.We all know that the xbox always has and WILL have good exclusive I.P.Halo,Gears of war,Crackdown,alan wake,quantum break might be good,RYSE and they might even bring out some rare games that HOPEFULLY won't suck!
All in all,i hate when people bash shit that hasn't even been released.Give it the benefit of the doubt.At the end of the day,the deciding features will be A)price B)games and C)what else it can do And for now both the PS4 and xbox one are looking good.In my opinion,the price won't be THAT expensive since sony said they are gonna learn from their mistakes and the xbox usually isn't that expensive.Also,i REALLY dislike Jim sterling,the guy who gave a game 10/10 JUST for the music and jokes,i'm looking at you, dumb deadly premonition review.Jim be sayin' shit just to say controversial shit.

Careful, your fanboy is showing.

You can claim that having options isn't a bad thing, but when you're looking for convenience (which is the only thing consoles have over PC gaming) of just putting the disc in and sitting back on the couch, adding a bunch of superfluous menus is just annoying. But that's just opinion, here's where it really fails:

-Always online console. As Jim said, there are people w/ crap internet out there, even in urban/suburban areas. You don't have to work for an ISP to hear the horror stories people put out w/ having unstable connections that disconnect them often, routers that aren't working properly, etc. And if your XboxOne can't connect to the server for a day, it bricks itself until it can. Convenience!

-Making you pay a fee to play used games on the console. Who thought this was a good idea? That's actually worse than EA's DLC/registration practices, because at least then my money is going to someone who puts out games I like (both EA and the developers.) I'm not paying the fucking console manufacturer to play used games when it's main priority is to play games. Also, I don't care how much you hate GameStop for what it does, the fact they are still in business means there is a market for used games. And XboxOne just gave the finger to that market.

I'm sure Xbox fanboys such as yourself will pick this up anyway. Your money, your decision and all that. But as someone who is impartial to either system (I have both in other words), Xbox just convinced me not to buy their next console. Getting CoD first isn't enough of a selling point.

If they retract some of these idiotic decisions, it may be salvagable. If they don't, then exactly one thing and one thing alone would redeem it:
Xbox Live being free.

Until then, PS4 beats it hands down.

So after a couple of days I saw this and i mostly agree with you.It does indeed look bad,but what I hate the most is when people flag something as bad and they have 0 experience with it.I honestly am a fanboy of the xbox and like it more then the ps because of the simplicity,elegance and it all looks and plays a bit nicer,but honestly I am sick of microsoft's shit with the xbox live crap,the fee's (witch will probably change since that system isn't set in place still) and now the (almost) always on DRM?!Nope,I would much rather go to the PS4,and now that I look back on it,if the PS3 had the same price I would have bot it.I just really hope the online play will be free and a bit better.I'm still pissed at jim for his lack of doubt,EVEN if he is a journalist!He lost my credibility.

 

[Requia]

I didn't realise XBoxOne was the new console. I thought people were just talking about the original Xbox (like in was way Playstation was nicknames PSOne after the PS2), but like, 5 years after XBox 360.

Where I live, if the internet doesn't work, my whole world cracks. That's how reliant gaming has became on internet connections. Curse you XboxTwat.

Are Sony and Microsoft trying to make PC gaming superior?

Don't know about Sony, but MS might be trying to get those Linux and Apple users back, as much as I hate the pile of dogshit that is Windows, publishers (who aren't Valve) aren't going to give me much choice.

 

[Vault Citizen]

I won't be buying any consoles for the new generation, but this whole thing still makes me sad.

I mean, of all the names to call it, did they have to use Xbox One?

What am I supposed to call the original Xbox? Just "Xbox?" That gets confusing! Everybody already calls the Xbox 360 an Xbox...

"First Xbox" sounds awkward and the "black Xbox" was thrown out the window when Microsoft repainted the 360, so I'm stuck here.

Screw you Microsoft, and your weird naming practices too!

I've never called the Xbox 360 "Xbox", always by its full name or shortened to "360" calling the Xbox "Xbox" isn't a problem for me.

 

[darksakul]

Crap I agree with Jim for once, the Xbone is crap.
If I want a DRM heavy Always online Entertainment Hub I just ask EA to design a Smart TV.

But I do not want a Entertainment Hub, I want a fucking bloody gaming system.

Even Steam offers a OFF LINE MODE. If I loose internet my SNES game carts do not vaporize.

I guess for the Next Gen I am sticking to PS4, the Ouya and the PC.

Or I can unpack my Dreamcast, PS2 and SNES from "moth balls" and go retro.

Microsoft stop with this cloud BS, wait, even better yet just scrap your whole gaming division like you was going to before halo 3 and work on making Windows Not suck, you are failing with Win 8.

 

[Aeonknight]

snip

Now we're getting somewhere. It's fine if you prefer the formatting that Microsoft has put on it's machines in the past, no one can fault you for that, being your opinion and all. And honestly, I do agree that this website especially has gotten very "glass is half empty" lately. But if these are the details as is, there would have to be something left out or added in the very near future that absolutely redeems the Xbox1 in order to change people's minds.

Although I should change my original statement, it's going to take more than just Xbox Live being free to turn this whole fiasco around.

 

[alj]

I wonder if someone can make a console thats not overpriced, does not abuse its customers and one that has a good business model that is good for the developer the publisher and the consumer?

Oh sorry someone already did

http://www.ouya.tv/

 

[LoLife]

The Xbox One reminds me of "The Homer" the car for the average Joe ^^



"Jerry, what's the sticker price?" "$82,000?" "This monstrosity costs $82,000? ... I'm ruined!"

 

[wearesoneutralthatithurts]

At first, i didn't believe it: http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/139706-microsofts-new-kinect-patent-goes-big-brother-will-spy-on-you-for-the-mpaa

...holy crap, is that actually a thing? Well, the mandatory Kinect connection suddenly makes a lot more (spine-chilling) sense. Console gamers, are you going to put up with this? I can write all the words I want, but it's your money that decides if this kind of thing succeeds or fails. Just how badly do you want that next Call of Duty game?

I wont buy this. this thing can recognize your face, monitor your heart rate, can see how many people are there ( i think up to five).. its like.. fucking scary, there is a wired-video on youtube, which shows what kinect2 can do.

This thing IS literally BIG BROTHER.

and i dont get it why jim and bob dont mention that. because-well, xbox fail because its like tv- not my problem. but kinect on permanent surveillance, with face recognition, which can see how many people are at my home, in my room, how they move (this can see force-eg if you jump it can see the force which works in your legs, it can see if you straighten your arm-it can see whether your palm is turned so it shows to the ground, like you let something fall down, or whether your palm shows to the ceiling, like you want somebody to put something in your hand. it can see whether you form a pistol with your hand or-maybe that you make the vulcan-handsign.
i cant write that precisely because my english is not good enough.

 

[MB202]

I've said this multiple times and I'll say it here: if there was ever a time where I'd truly consider being a PC gamer, now's the time.

 

[badgersprite]

So after a couple of days I saw this and i mostly agree with you.It does indeed look bad,but what I hate the most is when people flag something as bad and they have 0 experience with it.I honestly am a fanboy of the xbox and like it more then the ps because of the simplicity,elegance and it all looks and plays a bit nicer,but honestly I am sick of microsoft's shit with the xbox live crap,the fee's (witch will probably change since that system isn't set in place still) and now the (almost) always on DRM?!Nope,I would much rather go to the PS4,and now that I look back on it,if the PS3 had the same price I would have bot it.I just really hope the online play will be free and a bit better.I'm still pissed at jim for his lack of doubt,EVEN if he is a journalist!He lost my credibility.

I just felt the need to point out that Jim isn't acting as a journalist, at least not in this capacity. Jimquisition is purely an "editorial" or an opinion piece. It has never been an objective view on anything occurring on the industry and it has never claimed to be. This is the "entertainment" section of The Escapist. Jim is simply giving you his opinion in his capacity as an entertainer.

He has never claimed to be acting as anything else in this segment.

 

[KiKiweaky]

Haven't really kept up to date with whats coming out for the Xbone but it sounds horrific.

Surely Microsoft must know that lots of people are spending most of their 'TV' time on the internet. Why would I bother browsing the web on a console? Until recently my 360 was gathering dust next to my PC, until I gave it to my cousin as his 360 died.