It does, doesn't it?Agayek said:It's nice to see the government getting back to its roots and undoing all his efforts. Really warms the cockles of my heart.
Thanks for the history US history/politics lesson!
It does, doesn't it?Agayek said:It's nice to see the government getting back to its roots and undoing all his efforts. Really warms the cockles of my heart.
The only issue we're really divided on in gay marriage. Other than that, making sure we have enough to live and entertain ourselves on. The rest is team backing.Ninjamedic said:Well good luck with that (assuming you're American), your political arena at this point is a corporate playground, I'm suprised your country hasn't has seen a resurgence of the left yet.Kieve said:Mind you I'm not advocating actual violence, just saying there needs to be a very tangible message send that the population will not stand for such a thing. Because otherwise, silence is consent.
You know, in the past I've usually scoffed at this sort of rhetoric. Obviously there isn't going to be any sort of "revolution" akin to what happened in the late 18th century. But when it appears that there's nothing voters can do because even the democratic process is being controlled by large private interests, it really feels like some form of aggressive protest is needed, at least on the scale of what occurred during the Vietnam war.gridsleep said:It doesn't take a village. It takes a revolution. Worked in 1776. It'll work now. The body count might shock historians.
god damnit america. wtf. Let's see... where to go...Olas said:You know, in the past I've usually scoffed at this sort of rhetoric. Obviously there isn't going to be any sort of "revolution" akin to what happened in the late 18th century. But when it appears that there's nothing voters can do because even the democratic process is being controlled by large private interests, it really feels like some form of aggressive protest is needed, at least on the scale of what occurred during the Vietnam war.gridsleep said:It doesn't take a village. It takes a revolution. Worked in 1776. It'll work now. The body count might shock historians.
The only other option I can think of is simply leaving the country, which may begin happening en masse if life in the United States continues on a trajectory of becoming continually worse and worse. I've never really been much of a patriot to begin with so I'd be mostly fine with it.
not sure about US, but thats not even legally possible here. you MUST be over 45 years old to run for presidency and over 27 years old to run for anything else in politics. the "youth" cant even be legally elected even if it had support of majority.shirkbot said:If your goal is reform, voting is no longer enough. If the youth are to have a voice, then one of them needs to run for office. We need to be encouraging young people, in all countries, to take an interest in public policy, and to run for office as soon as they can. It's a group without much money, but endless resourcefulness, and with some orchestration can get these hacks out of office.
I know there are (usually somewhat archaic) limiting factors, but 27 is not all that old, and the president of any given country has a tendency to be something of a figure head. That's not to say they have no power, but that their perceived power is usually much greater than their actual power. Parliament tends to make the major decisions, with presidents playing along/against as it suits them. Imagine a Parliament with even a small number of people under 30. It may not seem like much, but if you could get even a representative proportion of younger members it could make a huge difference. It might even be possible to reduce the age restrictions.Strazdas said:not sure about US, but thats not even legally possible here. you MUST be over 45 years old to run for presidency and over 27 years old to run for anything else in politics. the "youth" cant even be legally elected even if it had support of majority.shirkbot said:If your goal is reform, voting is no longer enough. If the youth are to have a voice, then one of them needs to run for office. We need to be encouraging young people, in all countries, to take an interest in public policy, and to run for office as soon as they can. It's a group without much money, but endless resourcefulness, and with some orchestration can get these hacks out of office.