Journalist demonises video games in article criticising the demonising of videogames. Inception!

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SycoMantis91

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Buretsu said:
SycoMantis91 said:
Buretsu said:
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They wouldn't be wrong if the lines were part of a paragraph or two on the games, not a "complete" analysis of said games. But yea, as much as I hate this "video games make you violent, but Saw and Necroscope are good for you" bulllshit, most people who say that just won't be convinced otherwise. At the very least, they're not likely to be convinced by us spouting our displeasure on an internet forum.
The police officer quoted in the article said that there was "nothing more potentially damaging than the sort of violence they're being exposed to, be it in movies, be it in console games they're playing." So at least in this case, the double standard you're referring to is not present.
I realize that's not the point of the article, but it's more or less the point of the post.
Which post, where? I literally do not see such a point being mentioned in any post other than your own.
The OT we're all responding to.
Perhaps you could point out the exact line, because it doesn't seem like movies are ever referenced in the post.
I misinterpreted what you were asking. No, no one else said that. Save one person responding to my initial post.
 

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Those quotes, out of context, are actually true. Also, this piece is pointing out the error of the police commissioner that 'demonized' videogames. The title is called 'Police commissioner Andrew Scipione under fire for video game comments.' I'd say this is a good thing rather than bad, although rather unnecessary. The 'actual' article is here. [http://www.news.com.au/technology/gaming/violent-video-games-incite-kids-to-crime-says-scipione/story-e6frfrt9-1226443402160]
Read the captions under the pictures, now read the top 5 list. Now tell me that it's a helpful article.
I have, but the article is still about the police commissioner being corrected. Sure there's some anti-videogame content but it's still not as bad as you make it out to be. As I said, the captions are actually true.
 

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Gone Rampant said:
This stopped getting funny after the "No Russian is a terrorist simulator" bullshit.

I found it hilarious that the article didn't actually mention that example. Probably more worrying from a moral standpoint than killing aliens in Gears.
 

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I'd hate to be wrong but that sounds true [all though I'm pretty sure Saints Row 1 didn't have you beating up hookers with dildos but I may be wrong] especially Max Payne, since it pretty much started the violence craze. I'm just surprised at why we should get mad about it, it doesn't seem like a opinion piece.
 

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I'd hate to be wrong but that sounds true [all though I'm pretty sure Saints Row 1 didn't have you beating up hookers with dildos but I may be wrong] especially Max Payne, since it pretty much started the violence craze. I'm just surprised at why we should get mad about it, it doesn't seem like a opinion piece.
Max Payne started the violence craze? Ever heard of a low budget game called Doom? or Duke Nukem 3D?


Or, you know, Space Invaders.
 

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His baseless claims are baseless. Hell, I started reading blank text when it came to his assumption, because it was that baseless.
 

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IGN AU are actually pretty good. If you read their original editorials they are scores better than anything else on the site, and usually pretty well thought out and enjoyable to read. IGN AU isn't deserving of the same scorn the other subsidiaries of the site are.

But this article is pathetic. I expect more from The Telegraph. They're not known for sensationalist fearmongering like this. The "Top 5 most violent games" bit at the end is shameful. They just picked 5 random games out of the air. It shows they know nothing about what they're talking about, and that section serves absolutely no purpose! It's got nothing to do with the rest of the article, they just put it there to scapegoat them.

These kind of news stories make me more depressed than angry now. Depressed at how it's still happening. They're still prepared to shovel this kind of shit over and over when it's obvious bull crap if you do even the slightest of research. You don't even need to do that. Just look at the millions of gamers out there and recognise that they're not all fucking serial killers!
 

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ResonanceSD said:
Gone Rampant said:
This stopped getting funny after the "No Russian is a terrorist simulator" bullshit.

I found it hilarious that the article didn't actually mention that example. Probably more worrying from a moral standpoint than killing aliens in Gears.
Wow, you really just don't get it? She's not demonizing anything. Killing civilians in No Russian is more "worrying from a moral standpoint" then ripping a chainsaw into an alien, but it's also less violent. She's not making some sort of argument, she's just providing context for her article -- and it's probably not even her. Pictures are usually handled by the editor, because they were part of the whole layout thing when it was all done in print.

Do you understand the difference between an editorial and a newspaper article?

She's not a pundit, she's not putting forth an opinion. She's writing for a newspaper, which means hectically fast writing, often about subjects that you are not intimately familiar with.
 

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"Saints Row
A game that makes a sport out of beating prostitutes with sex toys. Players spend the game killing people, blowing stuff up, swearing, selling and buying drugs and robbing people."

"Max Payne
Shoot drug gangs dead with a spray of bullets, take drugs to keep your health up. Shoot enemies with a grenade launcher from a helicopter. Violence is as common to this game as breathing."

"Assassin's Creed III: Liberation
Bloody, violent 16th century video game where gamers play assassins. Use a machete and blowpipes to destroy your enemies."
To be fair that is a pretty accurate laymans summation of those games...WHICH I LOVE
 

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She's not a pundit, she's not putting forth an opinion. She's writing for a newspaper, which means hectically fast writing, often about subjects that you are not intimately familiar with.
She's the tech writer for that paper. Not having the slightest idea of stuff you're talking about is rarely a good standpoint if you're meant to be a specialist in a related field.
 

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Video games are just another scapegoat that media will use to make people blameless, and they will continue to be blamed until the next big thing comes along.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
Aprilgold said:
I'd hate to be wrong but that sounds true [all though I'm pretty sure Saints Row 1 didn't have you beating up hookers with dildos but I may be wrong] especially Max Payne, since it pretty much started the violence craze. I'm just surprised at why we should get mad about it, it doesn't seem like a opinion piece.
Max Payne started the violence craze? Ever heard of a low budget game called Doom? or Duke Nukem 3D?


Or, you know, Space Invaders.
Fine wrong word. Amplified it.

Buretsu said:
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all though I'm pretty sure Saints Row 1 didn't have you beating up hookers with dildos but I may be wrong
It was in Saints Row: The Third
The OP did not make it clear, all it says is "Saints Row" not specifically the "Third."
 

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Aprilgold said:
Fine wrong word. Amplified it.

Buretsu said:
Aprilgold said:
all though I'm pretty sure Saints Row 1 didn't have you beating up hookers with dildos but I may be wrong
It was in Saints Row: The Third
The OP did not make it clear, all it says is "Saints Row" not specifically the "Third."
The OP was directly quoting the article. Sloppy journalism strikes again! -_-. Seriously, that article had about 9 seconds worth of research put into it.
 

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Human centipede? Nah that's fine. Must be because it doesn't go for very long compared to Spec Ops: The Line.
I'll give you a gajillion dollars if you can find me one single person in the world who thinks violent video games are somehow harmful, but violent movies are just 'fine'.

http://www.destructoid.com/vaz-violent-videogames-worse-than-violent-movies-159784.phtml

www.google.com 4 life. Took me exactly three seconds.
 

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Zaik said:
LeeArac said:
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Human centipede? Nah that's fine. Must be because it doesn't go for very long compared to Spec Ops: The Line.
I'll give you a gajillion dollars if you can find me one single person in the world who thinks violent video games are somehow harmful, but violent movies are just 'fine'.

http://www.destructoid.com/vaz-violent-videogames-worse-than-violent-movies-159784.phtml

www.google.com 4 life. Took me exactly three seconds.
Destructoid FTW! =D Love those guys.


Also pay up.