JRPGs SUCK

[Ando85]

Is it weird that I absolutely love Yoshitaka Amano's art. But I can't stand the Final Fantasy series. Characters and aesthetic and all?

Still, after all these years, I can't quite figure that one out.

JRPG's rarely if ever interest me. I think their style lends itself better to a very linear and pre composed character setup. Which they often end up having.

And that kinda takes away the flagship thing I want from an RPG. Customisability. I want to inject my own style into the characters actions and their looks.

JRPG's tend to have thoroughly outlines their characterisation and have a very set story. I'm not going to plug 50+ hours into a story that I don't really have any control over.

WRPG's tend to be more open to player whims. But can suffer from weak story telling and characterisation.

It's a catch-22 really.

And it usually comes down to the fact that I hate JRPG gameplay mechanics with a burning passion. I do not like taking turns.

Yea I agree about the catch-22. WRPGs stories aren't as in depth, they have to sacrifice some story and characterization to make the game more open ended. Since you are in control of the story there is just way too many outcomes to flesh them all out in the same depth as a JRPG.

JRPGs are at times painfully linear but this allows the story to progress more smoothy and in depth. Since you don't create the characters it is easier to give them a set personality. Dragon Quest 9 comes to mind for me. Your party members are all generic people you create, so therefore they have absolutely no personality. A rarity in a JRPG.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I don't know if the games have aged well or not and I haven't even played them myself, but you could check out Persona 1 and 2 for PSP (PS1 game remakes). Or Persona 3 Portable for something more recent (very late PS2). You don't need the first two to understand the third in any capacity.

P3P was on the PSP.

you're thinking persona 3 fes.

 

[Defense]

I'm playing Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky right now, and it's a really good game so far. I'd definitely suggest it if you don't really like modern JRPGs.

I'd also suggest Crisis Core, but only if you can handle the repetitive combat.

I actually recently completed TitS. It was the tits! Anywho I really hope to see the other 2 parts released soon, it sort of left at a cliffhanger.

Crisis Core was the first game I got with my PSP I really enjoyed it.

You already got both of them? You have good taste my friend.

Jeanne d'Arc*, Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions*, Disgaea 1/2*, Star Ocean: Second Evolution*, Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together*, Ys Seven, Yggdra Union, Knights in the Nightmare, and Hexyz Force.

I've only played the marked ones, but they should all be good JRPGs. Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep is also pretty fun and I'd put Persona 3 Portable up there as well if I didn't have a mediocre time with it. I did have a better time playing as the Female MC, but it was probably because I abhorred the battle system in that game.

 

[Spaceparanoid42]

Ahhaha! Ok, that was a good one. I clicked the link all ready to rage at the OP, and then saw the rest of the post and was like "Oh...Never mind!"

I recently downloaded Final Fantasy VII off of the PSN. After hearing so many people talk about how it was an overrated piece of shit, I started playing it to see what the fuss was about. It was around the point of the motorcycle chase that I had to pause the game for a second and think: "What the %@&# are the haters talking about? This game is frikkin awesome!"

 

[SpaceBat]

Tales of Symphonia
Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross
Final Fantasy VI, VII, IX, X, Tactics (different kind of game)
Lost Odyssey
Persona games

JRPG's tend to have thoroughly outlines their characterisation and have a very set story. I'm not going to plug 50+ hours into a story that I don't really have any control over.

Sorry to hear that. There's really no flaw whatsoever in having a set story, but I suppose not everybody has to accept that. You are missing out on some decent story's though.

 

[The Wykydtron]

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Damn that was good mini trolling there OP, i was gonna Present Persona 3 and 4 as the most awesome JRPG i've ever played but it seems quite irrelevent now since half the guys in this Thread have ninja'd me...

 

[Pyro Paul]

Radiata Stories was acctually quiet good on PS2. an intresting mix RPG, tactics, and real time action rolled up into one. I think a perfect cross between the old Final Fantasy feeling and the Kingdom Hearts new feeling. I am some what saddened they didn't use this formula more often, exspecially in their more recent Final Fantasy releases.

i personally think that the game play mechanics seen in Radiata stories would of married well with the story and presentation of FFXIII. but oh well.

 

[Snotnarok]

I've got nothing to recommend that's new, all new JRPGs on consoles have been nothing bad to me.

However PSP and GBA did have a decent sized library of titles to check out,

PSP- Jeanne D'Arc, Disgaea 1 and 2, Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core

GBA- Summon Night 1 and 2, Final Fantasy VI (improved over SNES), Golden Sun, Breath of Fire 2

PSOne- Breath of Fire 3 and 4, Final Fantasy Tactics, Brave Fencer Musashi, Megaman Legends 1 and 2, Final Fantasy VII

Genesis/Mega Drive- Phantasy Star II and IV, Shining Force I and II.

But yeah, nothing really recent I can recommend, I don't like the new stuff, it's a lot of angst.

Edit Do NOT get the War of the Lions for PSP, if you want that game on your PSP get the PSOne classics version on the PSN. The War of the Lions screwed up some of the midis in the music and every single move in that game is at 1/2 speed or slower and it makes things awkward. I bought it and wanted to microwave it, 30 dollars wasted.

 

[drisky]

For PSP, Valkaria Chronicles 2 was spectacular. Hell it was my personal game of the year last year.

 

[Dagnius]

The Mana Khemia remake for PSP: Mana Khemia Student Alliance was pretty fun to me. It's a turn based battle system similar to FF10, and also the character improvement system is also pretty similar to FFX (Kind of like the Sphere Grid). You gather materials (or have your teammates gather them in between certain points) and craft items. Some of the items you craft will allow you to continue your skill grid and learn stats and abilities. The combat involves chaining attacks the right way and filling up a burst meter to gain special attacks and whatnot. My description is probably half-assed and you should probably look it up if it sparked your interest. I have yet to finish the game since duodecim came out, but I have enjoyed every minute of it that I have played so far.

 

[thiosk]

I see what you did here.

Clever girl....

all i can say is MOAR CHRONO TRIGGER. Psp can run it, right? we have WAYS of making the psp run it. We have our ways...

 

[Ando85]

Edit Do NOT get the War of the Lions for PSP, if you want that game on your PSP get the PSOne classics version on the PSN. The War of the Lions screwed up some of the midis in the music and every single move in that game is at 1/2 speed or slower and it makes things awkward. I bought it and wanted to microwave it, 30 dollars wasted.

Damn, too late. I loved the PS version and still own it, but I decided to buy the PSP remake cause of some new features. I didn't even realize those problems. Think I only spent like 12 bucks on it though.

 

[EightGaugeHippo]

I was about to agree with you as well...
Ahwell

Only JRPGs I can stand are Final Fantasy (seven and nine being my favorite).
The rest either don't appeal, or I haven't taken the time to play.

 

[Ando85]

I see what you did here.

Clever girl....

all i can say is MOAR CHRONO TRIGGER. Psp can run it, right? we have WAYS of making the psp run it. We have our ways...

Clever girl? I'm a guy except on weekends.

Anyways, no problem there as I have the original Chrono Trigger SNES cart.

 

[Ando85]

The Mana Khemia remake for PSP: Mana Khemia Student Alliance was pretty fun to me. It's a turn based battle system similar to FF10, and also the character improvement system is also pretty similar to FFX (Kind of like the Sphere Grid). You gather materials (or have your teammates gather them in between certain points) and craft items. Some of the items you craft will allow you to continue your skill grid and learn stats and abilities. The combat involves chaining attacks the right way and filling up a burst meter to gain special attacks and whatnot. My description is probably half-assed and you should probably look it up if it sparked your interest. I have yet to finish the game since duodecim came out, but I have enjoyed every minute of it that I have played so far.

I got both Mana Khemias on PS2, but still haven't gotten around to playing them. The only Atelier title I have beaten was the first one Eternal Mana. I probably should get around to 2 and 3, both MKs and Atelier Rorona.

 

[thiosk]

I see what you did here.

Clever girl....

all i can say is MOAR CHRONO TRIGGER. Psp can run it, right? we have WAYS of making the psp run it. We have our ways...

Clever girl? I'm a guy except on weekends.

That was in reference:


Not specifically related to your junkstickles or lack thereof.

 

[cainx10a]

Jeanne D'arc was just so damn fantastic! I wanted to cry when she died! Poor Roger! Spoiler? What Spoiler? It's a history lesson!!!!!!

 

[Snotnarok]

Edit Do NOT get the War of the Lions for PSP, if you want that game on your PSP get the PSOne classics version on the PSN. The War of the Lions screwed up some of the midis in the music and every single move in that game is at 1/2 speed or slower and it makes things awkward. I bought it and wanted to microwave it, 30 dollars wasted.

Damn, too late. I loved the PS version and still own it, but I decided to buy the PSP remake cause of some new features. I didn't even realize those problems. Think I only spent like 12 bucks on it though.

If you like it then that's fine, I love the game so any little defects I'll notice. I got to chapter 2 and sold the PSP version. I just couldn't take it.