Judge allows Sony to get IP of anyone who has visited Geohot site.

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Saucycarpdog

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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/03/geohot-site-unmasking/

In other words, Sony's coming after you. Hide.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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And what would they do exactly? I visited his site out of curiosity when this whole scandal broke, but I didn't download anything. And Sony can't prove I did.
 
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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
And what would they do exactly? I visited his site out of curiosity when this whole scandal broke, but I didn't download anything. And Sony can't prove I did.
You make it sound like Sony cares. A silly position to take. Although them enforcing anything against so many people sounds ridiculous, I'll still bet they may try to ban all PS3's that use the same IP address.
 

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I'm not surprised and nobody really should be. Our justice system is owned by whoever can make the deal sweetest for the judge.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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Irridium said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
And what would they do exactly? I visited his site out of curiosity when this whole scandal broke, but I didn't download anything. And Sony can't prove I did.
You make it sound like Sony cares. A silly position to take. Although them enforcing anything against so many people sounds ridiculous, I'll still bet they may try to ban all PS3's that use the same IP address.
I just wanted to say that your new avatar is awesome. And modding a PS3 would be worthless to me. The only thing I hate are region locks. And all PS3 games are region free. I just thought I'd clear that up. My original post sounded a little guilty.
 

shadow skill

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This is total nonsense, this is as bad as the government wanting access to what books you check out in the library. If the EFF is correct the rulings giving Sony permission to access this data violates the First Amendment anyway. I would hope that the providers fight the ruling and do not comply.
 

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Let's not delude ourselves into thinking the IP is some sort of secret information you absolutely must keep to yourself, instead of some piece of internet information that is necessary to get data back to you otherwise the internet simply cannot work.

Dynamic IPs mean go home get some sleep and stop panicking.
 

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TestECull said:
Sony has no business with that information so why the fuck does that judge think they need it? It boggles my mind.

icame said:
Good. I hope they burn.
So you're glad Sony gets to skirt the First Amendment?


Get out of my country. Just go. If you're not here then stay the hell out.
Not in your country. Don't care about first amendment.
 

Lazier Than Thou

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TestECull said:
Sony has no business with that information so why the fuck does that judge think they need it? It boggles my mind.

icame said:
Good. I hope they burn.
So you're glad Sony gets to skirt the First Amendment?


Get out of my country. Just go. If you're not here then stay the hell out.
I'm not going to defend Sony, but precisely how does this skirt the First Amendment?
 

PlasmaFrog

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Lazier Than Thou said:
I'm not going to defend Sony, but precisely how does this skirt the First Amendment?
Breaking of privacy I assume.

This isn't the case at least. They have the rights to disclose this information.

Yet, I can't help but say this. "Go, go, go, GO! Sony Entertainment!". They've had it coming.
 

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DracoSuave said:
Let's not delude ourselves into thinking the IP is some sort of secret information you absolutely must keep to yourself, instead of some piece of internet information that is necessary to get data back to you otherwise the internet simply cannot work.

Dynamic IPs mean go home get some sleep and stop panicking.
First off they are asking for all the logs. It isn't just the IP addresses. Secondly they are even asking for the text of comments in at least the subpoena of Youtube. Thirdly we don't actually know what these companies log and how they do it, they could very well contain identifying information within the logs that contain the IP addresses. Lastly see this letter by an attorney for the EFF:https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wired.com%2Fimages_blogs%2Fthreatlevel%2F2011%2F03%2Feffletter.pdf

According to this attorney the sixth request in the Youtube subpoena is expressly prohibited, and there is already precedent that says you can't get the IP/account info of people because they post comments you don't like for example. (See the letter for a more detailed explanation.)

Plasmafrog they don't have any right to this information if you think about it logically. It is like arguing that the government has a right to see what books you check out from the public library and then show up at your house because you have books on Arabic or physics. The former indicating that you have terrorist leanings and the latter indicating that you are learning to build bombs.
 

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PlasmaFrog said:
Lazier Than Thou said:
I'm not going to defend Sony, but precisely how does this skirt the First Amendment?
Breaking of privacy I assume.

This isn't the case at least. They have the rights to disclose this information.

Yet, I can't help but say this. "Go, go, go, GO! Sony Entertainment!". They've had it coming.
I'm going to post the text of the first amendment. You're going to tell me exactly where it says anything about privacy.

First Amendment said:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 

PlasmaFrog

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Lazier Than Thou said:
I'm going to post the text of the first amendment. You're going to tell me exactly where it says anything about privacy.
Oh, sorry, I was trying to be sarcastic. That thing is more along the lines of the IV amendment.
 

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Lazier Than Thou said:
First Amendment said:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
You win the internet, for being the first person in so very long to actually bother looking up anything in the constitution before arguing over it :D

Anyway, I'm with Sony on this one. It must be a real prick to have so many people screwing with the service you worked so hard on, and now they're in a position to work against those people. It's unlikely that this data will ever be used - and it would be difficult to enforce whatever they might want do to, anyway - but in principle, I'm glad they have it.