Judge Tells Apple Samsung Won't Wipe it Out

[gardian06]

Hey Apple, maybe you should try something else like oh I don't know try to make a better product that can compete with what Samsung is making as well as maybe trying to be more competitive with your pricing. Ya know? Stuff that companies normally do when they want to win over customers.

Maybe the deal is keeping it overpriced, same reason you'll pay more for an Armani shirt, and no matter what you won't get a cheap Armani (cheap in the sense of price). You're paying for the brand and everything that comes with it. It is illogical, but it's a social thing.
However stepping up to the competition in terms of bringing new features, etc. Well, that can't be argued... Though my father in law has both that latest Galaxy (the pretty one) and iPhone 5, he barely uses the Galaxy, he says he prefers the iPhone, I used his Galaxy a bit, I also prefer the iPhone, BUT it is a real fine phone and though I felt apple was smoother, samsung also had a very nice feel to it. Let's put it this way, I'd pick iPhone any day, but the differences were minimal, and what really links me to iPhone is the iTunes store, because I have tons of movies, tv shows, music and games that i bought on it; also the immediate synch with iPad, iPod, iMac and Apple TV is VERY helpful.

But I have a rant against some people who badmouth Apple products (for this reason only): they say "wow, their stuff is made for retards, it's too easy to use"... WTF??? Isn't that GREAT? The easier the better, I see my grandfather and the way he suffers to put the DVD to work and I ask myself, this shit should be easier. I'm not going against Galaxy here, no, the little I used it was as easy as the iPhone. I'm just ranting here, but hey, things should become easier, EVERYTHING. If the iPhone is too easy than go use morse code or something... geez...

The problem I have with Apple products is that while yes, they do make things easier to approach and have very clean interfaces, they give this at the cost of actually being able to do a lot with them. The system is very closed, and after learning how to actually take advantage of a lot of fiddle bits on my phone and computer, having them effectively removed is not an enjoyable prospect. Combine that with their obnoxious advertising (yes, you managed to make a nice feeling product with a lot of polish (not apple maps), but guess what, all the "new" features that keep getting talk up have been done by other companies, often better, years before) and their very cult? (not right word, can't think of a better one) mentality where only their own stuff is worth ever touching (and is the only option in existence) can be very irritating.

However, I have also recommended Apple computers for people before simply because they are still a good choice for some people (though they need the spare cash for the extra cost).

yes "cult" is the right word.

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really so your reasoning is that you will run back to apple because you have purchased so much from their draconian controlled system. wasn't this the very issue that got them sued class action style over their "Idevice only DRM" to where you couldn't even put the music on CDs. so really by making the statement that you will choose Apple because you have invested so much money into their Itunes system actually means you are part of the problem where the things that we purchase from a given service are so tied to that service that we don't actually own the things we buy, and can't do anything about it.

great job for complacency.

 

[Tiger Sora]

The patent system needs some tweaking. You shouldn't be able to sue to frivolously just because over these things.

 

[Hagi]

Can't we just ban Apple from courts everywhere? At least for a year?

That'd be good I think.

 

[Doom972]

Can someone confirm for me that this is indeed the legal version of someone giving the spoilt brat that is Apple a good whack on the backside and sending them off back to the schoolyard under orders to get along with the other kids?

Well, this is what I heard: "Wah! Waahhh!!! They're making better products than me and I'm losing all my customers because my products are inferior and much more expensive! Wah! It's not fair! Waaaahhhhh!!!!!".

I think I can confirm that.

 

[PoolCleaningRobot]

Can someone confirm for me that this is indeed the legal version of someone giving the spoilt brat that is Apple a good whack on the backside and sending them off back to the schoolyard under orders to get along with the other kids?

Only if Samsung counter sues them which they may or may not feel like doing. Of course, its also possible that Apple might have to pay all the legal bills if they lose

 

[mysecondlife]

Apple's "ecosystem"? Oh for fuck's sake.

So.. consumers = prey, Apple = hunter, Samsung = fire-breathing raptor with machine gun and jetpack?

Meanwhile, Galaxy Note 2 looks more and more sexy by the day.

 

[PoolCleaningRobot]

Can someone confirm for me that this is indeed the legal version of someone giving the spoilt brat that is Apple a good whack on the backside and sending them off back to the schoolyard under orders to get along with the other kids?

Only if Samsung counter sues them which they may or may not feel like doing. Of course, its also possible that Apple might have to pay all the legal bills if they lose

Hey Apple, maybe you should try something else like oh I don't know try to make a better product that can compete with what Samsung is making as well as maybe trying to be more competitive with your pricing. Ya know? Stuff that companies normally do when they want to win over customers.

Maybe the deal is keeping it overpriced, same reason you'll pay more for an Armani shirt, and no matter what you won't get a cheap Armani (cheap in the sense of price). You're paying for the brand and everything that comes with it. It is illogical, but it's a social thing.
However stepping up to the competition in terms of bringing new features, etc. Well, that can't be argued... Though my father in law has both that latest Galaxy (the pretty one) and iPhone 5, he barely uses the Galaxy, he says he prefers the iPhone, I used his Galaxy a bit, I also prefer the iPhone, BUT it is a real fine phone and though I felt apple was smoother, samsung also had a very nice feel to it. Let's put it this way, I'd pick iPhone any day, but the differences were minimal, and what really links me to iPhone is the iTunes store, because I have tons of movies, tv shows, music and games that i bought on it; also the immediate synch with iPad, iPod, iMac and Apple TV is VERY helpful.

But I have a rant against some people who badmouth Apple products (for this reason only): they say "wow, their stuff is made for retards, it's too easy to use"... WTF??? Isn't that GREAT? The easier the better, I see my grandfather and the way he suffers to put the DVD to work and I ask myself, this shit should be easier. I'm not going against Galaxy here, no, the little I used it was as easy as the iPhone. I'm just ranting here, but hey, things should become easier, EVERYTHING. If the iPhone is too easy than go use morse code or something... geez...

The problem I have with Apple products is that while yes, they do make things easier to approach and have very clean interfaces, they give this at the cost of actually being able to do a lot with them. The system is very closed, and after learning how to actually take advantage of a lot of fiddle bits on my phone and computer, having them effectively removed is not an enjoyable prospect. Combine that with their obnoxious advertising (yes, you managed to make a nice feeling product with a lot of polish (not apple maps), but guess what, all the "new" features that keep getting talk up have been done by other companies, often better, years before) and their very cult? (not right word, can't think of a better one) mentality where only their own stuff is worth ever touching (and is the only option in existence) can be very irritating.

However, I have also recommended Apple computers for people before simply because they are still a good choice for some people (though they need the spare cash for the extra cost).

yes "cult" is the right word.

snip...

really so your reasoning is that you will run back to apple because you have purchased so much from their draconian controlled system. wasn't this the very issue that got them sued class action style over their "Idevice only DRM" to where you couldn't even put the music on CDs. so really by making the statement that you will choose Apple because you have invested so much money into their Itunes system actually means you are part of the problem where the things that we purchase from a given service are so tied to that service that we don't actually own the things we buy, and can't do anything about it.

great job for complacency.

You're kinda over reacting. I don't download a lot of shows, movies, and music in the "typical" way but if I did I would totally use the playstation store because of its selection and convenience. I would only be able to use it on my playstation stuff but why would I care about that? That includes my ps3 and my vita which is all I would want. In the same way, someone who used the istore would be fine using the Mac they already own and their iphone

 

[Sonic Doctor]

Can someone confirm for me that this is indeed the legal version of someone giving the spoilt brat that is Apple a good whack on the backside and sending them off back to the schoolyard under orders to get along with the other kids?

Well, this is what I heard: "Wah! Waahhh!!! They're making better products than me and I'm losing all my customers because my products are inferior and much more expensive! Wah! It's not fair! Waaaahhhhh!!!!!".

I think I can confirm that.

That's right.

What I don't like about this whole thing is that the judge seemed to act like, since the loses were small, Apples lawsuit was in the wrong. The problem is that makes me feel that if Samsung was putting Apple out of business, she would have ruled in Apple's favor.

Even if Apple was being put out of business because of this, they would still be in the wrong. That is how the true and proper business world works:

Competitor makes better product for less, and the other company if it doesn't do something to compete it goes out of business.

I'm glad the judge basically slapped Apple upside the head.

Though, frankly, Apple needs to be slapped upside the head for everything it makes and markets. If I had one wish, it would be that Apple would go out of business and disappear by next week.

 

[Doom972]

Can someone confirm for me that this is indeed the legal version of someone giving the spoilt brat that is Apple a good whack on the backside and sending them off back to the schoolyard under orders to get along with the other kids?

Well, this is what I heard: "Wah! Waahhh!!! They're making better products than me and I'm losing all my customers because my products are inferior and much more expensive! Wah! It's not fair! Waaaahhhhh!!!!!".

I think I can confirm that.

That's right.

What I don't like about this whole thing is that the judge seemed to act like, since the loses were small, Apples lawsuit was in the wrong. The problem is that makes me feel that if Samsung was putting Apple out of business, she would have ruled in Apple's favor.

Even if Apple was being put out of business because of this, they would still be in the wrong. That is how the true and proper business world works:

Competitor makes better product for less, and the other company if it doesn't do something to compete it goes out of business.

I'm glad the judge basically slapped Apple upside the head.

Though, frankly, Apple needs to be slapped upside the head for everything it makes and markets. If I had one wish, it would be that Apple would go out of business and disappear by next week.

I agree with every word. In capitalism, even the biggest corporations must be allowed to fall if they can't handle the competition.

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

so whens that Win8 tablet thingy with akeyboard docl coming out?

 

[Qitz]

"Samsung wont wipe [apple] out"

Well yeah, but how is poor lil'apple going to do that to samsung without imposing some arbitrary restriction on them so they can't sell their better products? THAT'S NOT FAIR MAN!

 

[taciturnCandid]

I've loved my galaxy tab 2 and I think samsung is doing so well because they make quality products that are affordable.

So apple is complaining that samsung is too much of a competitor? Maybe try making products that are worth the purchase. Not only that, but their closed platform and refusal to allow sd cards really discourage me from touching their products. No third-party apps without jailbreaking.

Maybe apple could learn from their competitors. If they possibly allowed you to switch out sd cards i might be interested.

 

[J Tyran]

Can someone confirm for me that this is indeed the legal version of someone giving the spoilt brat that is Apple a good whack on the backside and sending them off back to the schoolyard under orders to get along with the other kids?

No, when the British judge (or at least I think it was the British case) Not only told Apple they were full of shit by throwing out their case, but also ordered them to post an apology to Samsung on their website, specifically stating that Samsung had in no way breached Apple copyright, that was what I call giving them a whack on the backside, and it was glorious.

It was even better than that, Apple posted a non apology that actually insulted Samsung and hid it away at the back of their site. The courts demanded they present themselves at court again to explain themselves. They where ordered to take it down and put the apology as the first page people in the UK would see, Apple tried to get the judge to allow them 14 days to make the changes. Apple didn't want to overshadow some product launches with the notice, the judges told them no and gave them 24 hours to make the changes and told them it was unbelievable that one of the biggest tech companies in the world couldn't change their websites so quickly.

They got a whack on the backside then had a tantrum about it, then they got a proper thrashing.

so whens that Win8 tablet thingy with akeyboard docl coming out?

The Microsoft Surface is out, been out for little while.

 

[unstabLized]

... Oh how I love my brand new Galaxy S3..

Excuse me but uh... *cough*..

APPLE CAN SUCK IT!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! *Runs around like a maniac*

 

[J Tyran]

... Oh how I love my brand new Galaxy S3..

Excuse me but uh... *cough*..

APPLE CAN SUCK IT!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! *Runs around like a maniac*

Fellow SIII owner here, Apple can indeed suck it. iPhone owners can keep their tiny screen, no social networking integration in contacts and lack of home screen with your apps and and other shit all over the screen all the time.

 

[Hero in a half shell]

The patent system needs some tweaking. You shouldn't be able to sue to frivolously just because over these things.

Oh I don't know.. you should be able to sue for anything you want.

What we need is some serious Anti-SLAPP type of laws though. So that if a judge deems that your suit was not only unsuccessful, but frivolous, then you can get nailed for like double what you were asking for originally.

I like that idea, I like it a lot!

Although there still needs to be stricter laws on what you can and cannot copyright, but that would be an excellent first step.

 

[Souplex]

I swear; no company tries to be more unlikable than Apple.

 

[darksakul]

Apple produced this commercial in 1984.

http://youtu.be/HhsWzJo2sN4

Apple Computers went 180 degrees their policy, Apple once protested "BIG BROTHER" now they are the villains.

I refuse to spend premium money for a closed-off inferior product, where I can only use their applications and products, where they restrict me on how they used their product and that I should "Think Differently" when that really means Think-What-we-tell-you-to-think. Apple does not want it's customers to Think Differently, they want there customers to be sheep.

And if you are an Apple supporter than to me you already lost your soul and your words are invalid.