Judgement Day? Again?
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Some crazy Christians pulled some random numbers out of the Bible and got that Judgement Day is May 21, 2011. Having knowledge about the Bible does not assist in deciphering their nonsense for I have tried and failed. I heard that we're gonna die in October though, because judging seven billion must take awhile.imacharginmehlaz0r said:
But the question is, is May 21st a Friday? ;D
The recent "end of the world" "May 21st" stuff got started by a guy called Harold Camping. He's the head of a small American congregation and he runs the "family radio" radio station.
Camping says the world will end on the 21st of may due to, I kid you not, this 'calculation':
1) He claims that Jesus was crucified on exactly the 1st of April, 33 A.D. He has no proof of this, and due to the fact that the current calender didn't even exist during Jesus's time, and due to the fact that there really isn't any date Christian scholars can agree upon, this date is probably baloney. Nevertheless, Camping insists that Jesus was crucified on the 1st of April, 33 AD.
2) Camping THEN says that 1,978 years have passed between Jesus's death and 1st of April 2011. Since he can't be sure when Jesus died, the number is meaningless.
3) Then, pulling these numbers from who-knows-where, Camping claims that 5 = Atonement, 10 = Compassion, and 17 = Heaven. Where he got these numbers, no one knows.
4) He then multiplies 1,978 by 365.2422, the exacty number of days in a year (yes, the .2422 is the reason why every four years, we have a leap day). This gives him 722,449. Why he thinks this reveals anything is beyond me.
5) He then says that there are 51 days between April 1 and May 21st. Why the number 51 is important, and not, say, the number 43 or 76 or 92 is again, beyond me.
6) Then he says "51 + 722,449 = 722,500. Well....okay, so what? What is special about the number 722,500?
7) Camping then says: "AHA! (5 x 10 x 17)^2 ALSO equals 722,500!
You see how his theory is insane? He's taken numbers, assigned them arbitrary meanings, multiplied by other numbers he extrapolated from dates that he can't be sure of, then just because two numbers match, he claims that this is proof that doomsday is at hand!
Why is the number 51 important?
How can he be sure that 1st April 33 A.D was the date of the death of Jesus on the cross?
What proof does he have that 17 = heaven or that 5 equals atonement?
Why was it necessary to multiply 1,978 by the days in a solar year?
Why are 722,449 or 722,500 important numbers?
How does multiplying 5 x 10 x 17 then squaring the result PROVE ANYTHING??!?!
Camping has done nothing more than a simple calculation based on meaningless data!
Okay, TWO can play at THAT game Mr. Camping:
1) I have been alive for 8536.5706 days - I round it up to 8537. Why? BECAUSE.
2) Then I decree that I will divide that number by four. Why? Because Four is my favourite number. This gives me 2134.
3)Arbitrarily declaring that 4 = enlightenment, 10 = Glory and 17 = Baloney Sandwiches and 20 = Pastrami with Mustard, I will add those numbers together, giving me 4 + 10 + 17 + 20, which gives me 51 - THE SAME NUMBER OF DAYS CAMPING UNCOVERED! IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
4) I reverse 51 to make 15. Also, 51-15 = 36. 36 is THREE YEARS AFTER 33 A.D. Jesus was said to have RISEN from the grave THREE days after his death. OH MY GOD THE NUMBERS MATCH!
THIS PROVES, BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, THAT I AM THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD AND THAT IN THE YEAR 2134, I will RISE TO BECOME LORD AND I WILL DISTRIBUTE BALONEY AND PASTRAMI SANDWICHES WITH MUSTARD!
Also 2134 is FOUR DIGITS LONG, AND CONTAINS THE FIRST FOUR DIGITS ABOVE ZERO! CO-INCIDENCE!?!?!?! YOU DECIDE!
To sum up: Harold Camping is nuttier than a Mr. Goodbar.
Camping says the world will end on the 21st of may due to, I kid you not, this 'calculation':
1) He claims that Jesus was crucified on exactly the 1st of April, 33 A.D. He has no proof of this, and due to the fact that the current calender didn't even exist during Jesus's time, and due to the fact that there really isn't any date Christian scholars can agree upon, this date is probably baloney. Nevertheless, Camping insists that Jesus was crucified on the 1st of April, 33 AD.
2) Camping THEN says that 1,978 years have passed between Jesus's death and 1st of April 2011. Since he can't be sure when Jesus died, the number is meaningless.
3) Then, pulling these numbers from who-knows-where, Camping claims that 5 = Atonement, 10 = Compassion, and 17 = Heaven. Where he got these numbers, no one knows.
4) He then multiplies 1,978 by 365.2422, the exacty number of days in a year (yes, the .2422 is the reason why every four years, we have a leap day). This gives him 722,449. Why he thinks this reveals anything is beyond me.
5) He then says that there are 51 days between April 1 and May 21st. Why the number 51 is important, and not, say, the number 43 or 76 or 92 is again, beyond me.
6) Then he says "51 + 722,449 = 722,500. Well....okay, so what? What is special about the number 722,500?
7) Camping then says: "AHA! (5 x 10 x 17)^2 ALSO equals 722,500!
You see how his theory is insane? He's taken numbers, assigned them arbitrary meanings, multiplied by other numbers he extrapolated from dates that he can't be sure of, then just because two numbers match, he claims that this is proof that doomsday is at hand!
Why is the number 51 important?
How can he be sure that 1st April 33 A.D was the date of the death of Jesus on the cross?
What proof does he have that 17 = heaven or that 5 equals atonement?
Why was it necessary to multiply 1,978 by the days in a solar year?
Why are 722,449 or 722,500 important numbers?
How does multiplying 5 x 10 x 17 then squaring the result PROVE ANYTHING??!?!
Camping has done nothing more than a simple calculation based on meaningless data!
Okay, TWO can play at THAT game Mr. Camping:
1) I have been alive for 8536.5706 days - I round it up to 8537. Why? BECAUSE.
2) Then I decree that I will divide that number by four. Why? Because Four is my favourite number. This gives me 2134.
3)Arbitrarily declaring that 4 = enlightenment, 10 = Glory and 17 = Baloney Sandwiches and 20 = Pastrami with Mustard, I will add those numbers together, giving me 4 + 10 + 17 + 20, which gives me 51 - THE SAME NUMBER OF DAYS CAMPING UNCOVERED! IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
4) I reverse 51 to make 15. Also, 51-15 = 36. 36 is THREE YEARS AFTER 33 A.D. Jesus was said to have RISEN from the grave THREE days after his death. OH MY GOD THE NUMBERS MATCH!
THIS PROVES, BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, THAT I AM THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD AND THAT IN THE YEAR 2134, I will RISE TO BECOME LORD AND I WILL DISTRIBUTE BALONEY AND PASTRAMI SANDWICHES WITH MUSTARD!
Also 2134 is FOUR DIGITS LONG, AND CONTAINS THE FIRST FOUR DIGITS ABOVE ZERO! CO-INCIDENCE!?!?!?! YOU DECIDE!
To sum up: Harold Camping is nuttier than a Mr. Goodbar.
I have no idea what it means, but considering this 2012 business with people not understanding how calenders work I image its something stupid. No place in the bible says "judgement day, April 32, 3021, look out for it" so why do people say the bible says anything about the date? Every half-assed theory is always based on insane troll logic. At least its entertaining to try and follow the math and see if you can find the moment when their mind exploded.
I have an idea, which I have ripped off from Penn & Teller:
"Hey, Mr. Camping? You think the world is going to end? Oh well now, ain't that swell for you folks! Hey, given that you're SURE the world's gonna end on the 21st of May, how about I give you 3000 dollars, and in return, you give me all your property? I mean, you're not gonna need it after the 21st, right? I'll even let you live in your property until the 21st, at which point the property becomes mine! And the 3000 dollars I give you can be used by you to save more souls! It's win-win! You get extra cash to save souls, and you get to stay and use your property until the 21st! YA CAN'T LOSE! I mean, what are the odds of you being wrong! You, you're a superstar! So take advantage of me! Take my 3000 dollars, and I'll take your property on the 22nd of May - you won't need it right?"
I also extend this offer to all 2012 believers - I give you all the money in my bankaccount, and you give me the rights to your property AFTER the 21st of December 2012. It's not like you're gonna NEED your property, right?
Strangely enough, I don't think I'll get any takers.
"Hey, Mr. Camping? You think the world is going to end? Oh well now, ain't that swell for you folks! Hey, given that you're SURE the world's gonna end on the 21st of May, how about I give you 3000 dollars, and in return, you give me all your property? I mean, you're not gonna need it after the 21st, right? I'll even let you live in your property until the 21st, at which point the property becomes mine! And the 3000 dollars I give you can be used by you to save more souls! It's win-win! You get extra cash to save souls, and you get to stay and use your property until the 21st! YA CAN'T LOSE! I mean, what are the odds of you being wrong! You, you're a superstar! So take advantage of me! Take my 3000 dollars, and I'll take your property on the 22nd of May - you won't need it right?"
I also extend this offer to all 2012 believers - I give you all the money in my bankaccount, and you give me the rights to your property AFTER the 21st of December 2012. It's not like you're gonna NEED your property, right?
Strangely enough, I don't think I'll get any takers.
You sir, are awesome. I take my hat off to you.Korolev said:
OT: I have no idea why anyone would believe in this world ending nonsense. And besides, we have nothing to lose if we don't believe. You see, if the world does not end, the stupid guys who made up the rumour will have egg on their faces. And if it somehow does end, they will be too dead to gloat.
I have lived through two or three particular dates for a "rapture" or "second coming" of Christ, and Wikipedia has shown me hundreds more.
Sometimes I feel like the entire clergy is just one gigantic season of Lost: Hanging you on the edge of your seat for questions to be answered and failing to deliver.
I remember reading about people committing suicide days before New Years 2000. They were jumping from telephone poles screaming "We're all going to heaven the same way we left!" or something along those lines.
There was this guy who used to work with my mother who'd spout all kinds of bullshit predictions and such. I recall he had several people fall for one of this "second coming" predictions for a while.
When December 21, 2012 rolls around, I'm cranking up my speakers and blasting this song:
Sometimes I feel like the entire clergy is just one gigantic season of Lost: Hanging you on the edge of your seat for questions to be answered and failing to deliver.
I remember reading about people committing suicide days before New Years 2000. They were jumping from telephone poles screaming "We're all going to heaven the same way we left!" or something along those lines.
There was this guy who used to work with my mother who'd spout all kinds of bullshit predictions and such. I recall he had several people fall for one of this "second coming" predictions for a while.
When December 21, 2012 rolls around, I'm cranking up my speakers and blasting this song:
Korolev said:
I remember another thread about this...my response was something along these lines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_religious_predictions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulfilled_religious_predictions
Funny that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_religious_predictions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulfilled_religious_predictions
Funny that.
It's a money-making scheme that even the church running the ads doesn't believe, and you can prove this for yourself:
1) Call in and tell them you want to donate 1000 dollars to help their cause.
2) Make a note of how enthusiastic they become, and how willing they are to take your money.
3) Tell them that you'll only donate on one condition: should the rapture not come on May 21st, they are to refund your donation plus 10%.
4) Admire their faith in their own prediction as they refuse your donation.
1) Call in and tell them you want to donate 1000 dollars to help their cause.
2) Make a note of how enthusiastic they become, and how willing they are to take your money.
3) Tell them that you'll only donate on one condition: should the rapture not come on May 21st, they are to refund your donation plus 10%.
4) Admire their faith in their own prediction as they refuse your donation.
May 21st eh? I'm busy that day I'm afraid. XD
I really don't think that the world will end on one specific day. I think for something to bring down an ENTIRE planet it'll be gradual, horrifying and, because I'm pessimistic (I think I've spelt that wrong) it'll be our fault.
I'd love it if Jesus came round my house though, I'm an Atheist so ya know. We'd probably have lolz.
I really don't think that the world will end on one specific day. I think for something to bring down an ENTIRE planet it'll be gradual, horrifying and, because I'm pessimistic (I think I've spelt that wrong) it'll be our fault.
I'd love it if Jesus came round my house though, I'm an Atheist so ya know. We'd probably have lolz.
If i had silly amounts of money i would grab a hellicopter, a huge spotlight and a gigantic stereo flying around the bibel belt on the 21.
O.T. : This rapture thing is something you americans came up whit, and from what ive gathered it smells of scam all the way to the bank...
O.T. : This rapture thing is something you americans came up whit, and from what ive gathered it smells of scam all the way to the bank...
Oi. Don't "you Americans" this one. These are a small collection of crazies that we find just as hilarious as you do.Smasngrab said:
What is this, the 50th time someone's called out a judgement day? They did that with the black hole machine...thing, and a couple of days before christmas two years ago.
I guess the only judgement is us laughing at them for getting it wrong yet again.
I guess the only judgement is us laughing at them for getting it wrong yet again.