Juggernaut, a perk from hell

[Zinaxos]

Yesterday I finally prestiged, after constant crap from friends, and a lot of guts.I sat down to try and work up the ladder to a higher level, I noticed one thing, being a prestiged person. It is very hard to get a kill when everyone in the match is using Juggernaut. I am only a level 3 first prestige person and that means no custom classes, no good weapons, and alot of outbursts of foul language. As I tried to sit and take in this epicly bad match I was in, I looked at the top player, he was using Juggernaut, Martydom, and Bouncing Betties. I was shocked at this turn of events. I, never once in my CoD WaW career ever used any of these perks. I thought them a tool for noobs to get points and level up faster, but in this game the noob was a level 65 10th Prestige. I was scared for the first time ever in a CoD match, I was out gunned, out perked and was being camped from a secret location I knew nothing about. I have no idea why I chose to wright this story on a Gaming Discussion Forum on The Escapist Mgazine, but I thought if you read this and you use those three terrifying perks, you would rethink you CoD strategies, and play like a real player. But I dought very highly that anyone will change, their way of play. On the other hand if you do, props to you man...or woman.

 

[NeedAUserName]

I use Juggernaut on my Shotgun class in CoD4... And perks/guns don't help that much I feel (unless its something like a sniper vs a shotgun-ner(?) in either a huge open map, or a tiny map.) Its all about the player.

 

[Lukeydoodly]

Juggernaut is just as bad as Stopping Power.

 

[Souplex]

I thought most people hated martyrdom. I don't own the game so i don't know how thing are recently, but my friends hate it.

 

[Irridium]

so they have juggernaut, thats like what, 2 more bullets you need to fire?

You were probably just in a shitty match, it happens from time to time, not everyone is the same as those guys

 

[Octorok]

Thing is, Juggernaut annoys me. But I don't care - it's in the game. Stopping Power cancels it out. So why do people *****? Because whoever is using the perk is a better player than them.

I use Martyrdom on a shotgun class, and I get called a n00b. But at the end of the day, who got the kills? Me. Who saved the HQ? Me. I used what the game gave me. I didn't hack, cheat or glitch. I used a perk properly and came out the winner. You know what that makes me? A better player.

And Betties are not noobish anyway. And I hate the term noob, it's moronic. And no weapon, perk or camping position is noob-ish. If it's in the game naturally, without glitches or cheats, then this player is using it to their advantage and winning. They are the better player for not using some code of honour and ignoring a useful perk. I never use Juggernaut and almost never use Martyrdom because of personal preference anyway.

A real player is one who uses the game to his advantage - not a guy screaming "STFU N00b! HAX!"

 

[Clashero]

Play like a real player? It seems that it is you who needs to adjust his strategies. Martyrdom is ridiculously easy to avoid, Juggernaut you just have to work around, and Bouncing Betties are easy to spot.

Meself, I don't use Martyrdom because I prefer to have some other green perk, and I shy away from Bouncing Betties in favour of the bipod for machineguns. It works wonders in Castle.

 

[plastic_window]

If you play on hardcore servers I find that the problem fixes itself. It really doesn't matter how much extra health you have, on a hardcore server it's rare for anyone to get a second chance.

 

[keyton777]

What is people's problem with Juggernaut? I don't find it that useful as it, so what is the problem with it?

thats probably because the weapon you are using you got from leveling up, this guy had crap to start with, kinda hard to drop someone with juggy with a crappy rifle

 

[Davey Woo]

I refuse to use Juggernaut online (outside of private games) because I consider it to be as annoying as the OP.

I tend not to use any of the perks that I think aren't "realistic" E.G Juggernaut, Double Tap, Sleight of Hand, Steady Aim, UAV Jammer.

However saying that my general Perk setup is Stopping Power, Bandolier and Deep Impact, which aren't exactly the most realistic in actual effect. But this is simply to deal with all the Juggernaut users, who die in a reasonable amount of bullets when shot at with Stopping Power on, as opposed to without.

I think it would have been better if the perk system was either completely removed or changed, for example you could only use "Last Stand" if you'd been shot in the leg.

EDIT: Sorry I'm talking about on CoD4, I suppose it still stands...

 

[Avaholic03]

If it gives you such an advantage, why don't you use it? Sounds like you're just stubborn or want to ***** about losing to someone who isn't too proud to use a "noob" perk. Get over yourself, it's not like anyone was cheating, you just got owned by someone playing a more effective game than you.

 

[ElephantGuts]

Jesus, all it does is give the enemy a bit more health. If you can't manage putting a few more bullets into them, maybe you aren't that great a player.

Trust me, over the course of developing two games, if Juggernaut was really that unbalanced either IW or Treyarch would have fixed it.

 

[L1gh7Sp33d]

You are right, something is ridiculously overpowered in the console versions of CoD: WaW; however, it is not juggernaut that is at fault, it is the mp40.

The mp40 is the only gun in the game other than the snipers that can kill in two hits without stopping power. This ability allows for mp40 users to equip juggernaut or maybe camouflage with hardly any penalty. Also, it almost never runs out of clip. With the 64 bullet dual clip it almost takes 20 full seconds of holding down fire to empty it.

This gun pissed me off in the three months I played the crap out of that game on my way to tenth prestige, because it took me more shots to kill it with the rifles than it took to kill me. I have decided to go back to CoD 4 where the weapons are slightly more balanced (the m16 can't hold a candle to the mp40).

Luckily for pc players, the mp40 retains the same damage value as the thompson and kills in three hits instead of two in the pc version.

 

[Halfbreed13]

People who complain about Juggernaut are either using their pistols only or never heard of headshots.
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