Juicero - the $400 juicer outperformed by bare hands.

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Good science fiction predicts the future.

So it's better for your mental health not to look at current good science fiction....
I just finished The Wind-up Girl. Sadface.
 

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Can you not just use carton 'with pulp' juices? Can people tell the difference once it's in booze? Genuine question, I don't drink (or make) cocktails.
The average casino customer can't tell the difference from taste, no, but a lot of these VIP places thrive on unnecessary fanciness. And a device like the Juicero just screams "unnecessary." We did have carton juice at the bar I worked at, but it was an emergency backup for when we ran out of fresh fruit, and whenever we used it we prepared the drink in the back room and not at the front bar so the customers wouldn't see it and freak out at the fact that they were getting commoner's juice in their fancy cocktail.

We also served a lot of non-alcoholic fruit drinks, so there's that.

Baffle2 said:
I just finished The Wind-up Girl. Sadface.
What? You don't want to sexually abuse a clockwork geisha?

What kind of science fiction fan are you?!
 

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Xsjadoblayde said:
Well that's kinda shit. It's like buying a pencil sharpener that only sharpens one type of pencil, and btw it's the pencil that is being made by the same people selling the sharpener.
And if you don't replace the pencil fast enough, the sharpener will stop sharpening it.
Don't forget you need to first connect your sharpener to the internet and phone so you can verify your pencils. Also the pencils are a bit shit anyway and you could probably write better with a pen instead.
 

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Hawk of Battle said:
The Rogue Wolf said:
Xsjadoblayde said:
Well that's kinda shit. It's like buying a pencil sharpener that only sharpens one type of pencil, and btw it's the pencil that is being made by the same people selling the sharpener.
And if you don't replace the pencil fast enough, the sharpener will stop sharpening it.
Don't forget you need to first connect your sharpener to the internet and phone so you can verify your pencils. Also the pencils are a bit shit anyway and you could probably write better with a pen instead.
And the pencils are mechanical pencils, and the sharpener just pushes the button that makes the lead come out.
 
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Drathnoxis said:
Hawk of Battle said:
The Rogue Wolf said:
Xsjadoblayde said:
Well that's kinda shit. It's like buying a pencil sharpener that only sharpens one type of pencil, and btw it's the pencil that is being made by the same people selling the sharpener.
And if you don't replace the pencil fast enough, the sharpener will stop sharpening it.
Don't forget you need to first connect your sharpener to the internet and phone so you can verify your pencils. Also the pencils are a bit shit anyway and you could probably write better with a pen instead.
And the pencils are mechanical pencils, and the sharpener just pushes the button that makes the lead come out.
Considering how just using your bare hands is as effective as this "4-ton power" press, I think you have the perfect analogy to cap that off. XD
 

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There are a wide variety of presses, both manual and automated, that could be used to squeeze a packet of juice for a lot less than $400. If one really felt obligated to bring a machine into the process.

Of course, you apparently need to own a Juicero before they will sell you their packets. It's almost like you're making a ludicrously large down payment to buy into a farmshare for organic juice packets. Hmm.

The only question seems to me whether there will spring up a market for "third party" juice packets for people to squeeze by other means (possibly with a third-party, "non-DRM" juice squeezing machine for a fraction of the cost), or if the whole idea will just die the ignominious death it deserves.

The Juicero itself proving a success is not something that should occur in any world that still obeys basic laws of economics. And possibly physics.

This is possibly the worst product since the Cornballer.
 

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Yeah...I just did a little legwork on this. Each packet apparently costs between $5 and $7, and is only supposed to last for 5-7 days - whether it is opened or not - before the system registers it as expired and thus unusable. Now, based on the video, each packet apparently consists of one glass of juice. Now, that probably sounds bad on its own, but let me really drive the point home here. Your typical glass holds about 8 fl oz, or just under 240 ml. Walmart will ship me a 2 quart bottle (64 fl oz, or 1.89 L) - so roughly 8 times the volume of that Juicero packet - of V8 for $3.45. I can get a 24 fl oz bottle of Welch's Sparkling Red Grape Juice for $2.98. A 46 fl oz can of Dole Pineapple Juice goes for $2.77.

...And each packet of Juicero costs $5-$7 for 8 oz. Who signed off on this???
 

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Asita said:
Yeah...I just did a little legwork on this. Each packet apparently costs between $5 and $7, and is only supposed to last for 5-7 days - whether it is opened or not - before the system registers it as expired and thus unusable. Now, based on the video, each packet apparently consists of one glass of juice. Now, that probably sounds bad on its own, but let me really drive the point home here. Your typical glass holds about 8 fl oz, or just under 240 ml. Walmart will ship me a 2 quart bottle (64 fl oz, or 1.89 L) - so roughly 8 times the volume of that Juicero packet - of V8 for $3.45. I can get a 24 fl oz bottle of Welch's Sparkling Red Grape Juice for $2.98. A 46 fl oz can of Dole Pineapple Juice goes for $2.77.

...And each packet of Juicero costs $5-$7 for 8 oz. Who signed off on this???
Techbros.

And it looks like $120 million was sunk into developing this thing.

Just let that sink in.
 

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I bought a $10 handheld electric blender with free beaker at my local store 3 years ago. Unlike the Juicero it turns whole fruit into delicious juice in seconds. The most i have to do by hand is peel

This whole thing sounds like a massive scam to ripoff anyone so hooked on novelty they wouldn't realise they were basically being snowed
 

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Ah, the DRM laden kitchen appliances keep on coming. Keurig wasnt a lesson good enough.

Xsjadoblayde said:
Well that's kinda shit. It's like buying a pencil sharpener that only sharpens one type of pencil, and btw it's the pencil that is being made by the same people selling the sharpener. What a waste of time and resources. Is it an intentional scam or are they just that stupid?
I agree, alternative analogy is like buying a game systyem that only plays a certain type of games, and btw these games are being made by the same people selling the system. What a waste of time and resources. Is it an intentional scam or are they just that stupid?

Oh wait i forgot exclusives are allowed to defy logic.
 

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Yeah...I just did a little legwork on this. Each packet apparently costs between $5 and $7, and is only supposed to last for 5-7 days - whether it is opened or not - before the system registers it as expired and thus unusable. Now, based on the video, each packet apparently consists of one glass of juice. Now, that probably sounds bad on its own, but let me really drive the point home here. Your typical glass holds about 8 fl oz, or just under 240 ml. Walmart will ship me a 2 quart bottle (64 fl oz, or 1.89 L) - so roughly 8 times the volume of that Juicero packet - of V8 for $3.45. I can get a 24 fl oz bottle of Welch's Sparkling Red Grape Juice for $2.98. A 46 fl oz can of Dole Pineapple Juice goes for $2.77.

...And each packet of Juicero costs $5-$7 for 8 oz. Who signed off on this???
Because they are the weird ass gargling juices that I wouldn't drink, as in ginger and kale, carrots with a number of savory spices, those kinds of juices. Not the traditional cold pressed Orange sunshine I down on the daily.
 

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I agree, alternative analogy is like buying a game systyem that only plays a certain type of games, and btw these games are being made by the same people selling the system. What a waste of time and resources. Is it an intentional scam or are they just that stupid?

Oh wait i forgot exclusives are allowed to defy logic.
Okay, I'm not sure you put much thought into that comparison. Or any at all. Because it doesn't work. Not beyond the briefest of blurred/drunk surface observation. Just wanted to grind an axe?
 

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Asita said:
Yeah...I just did a little legwork on this. Each packet apparently costs between $5 and $7, and is only supposed to last for 5-7 days - whether it is opened or not - before the system registers it as expired and thus unusable. Now, based on the video, each packet apparently consists of one glass of juice. Now, that probably sounds bad on its own, but let me really drive the point home here. Your typical glass holds about 8 fl oz, or just under 240 ml. Walmart will ship me a 2 quart bottle (64 fl oz, or 1.89 L) - so roughly 8 times the volume of that Juicero packet - of V8 for $3.45. I can get a 24 fl oz bottle of Welch's Sparkling Red Grape Juice for $2.98. A 46 fl oz can of Dole Pineapple Juice goes for $2.77.

...And each packet of Juicero costs $5-$7 for 8 oz. Who signed off on this???
Because they are the weird ass gargling juices that I wouldn't drink, as in ginger and kale, carrots with a number of savory spices, those kinds of juices. Not the traditional cold pressed Orange sunshine I down on the daily.
You'd prefer, perhaps, that I go a bit upscale? Because the lowball figure for the pack puts it at just over the cost of an equivalent volume of Rodney Strong Cabernet Sonoma. A 750 bottle of that goes for just under $14 here, so a similarly sized pack of Cabernet Sonoma would go for about $4.48. Conversely, a 750 mL bottle of the $5 per pack Juicero would go for $15.63 (the equivalent volume for the $7 pack would cost $21.88).

Point being, however, that you're buying a $400 machine to squeeze $5-$7 packets with a shelf-life of less than a week. Which is to say that the packs are not inexpensive, nor is the machine. Couple that with the apparent pointlessness of the machine and you've got a major case of "why".
 

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Funny thing that got pointed out in one of the articles about this piece of shit: it's actually a great device for people working in hospitality, like bartenders.
I don't speak often around here but I feel I can provide some input in this. I work as a barista in a local coffee shop run by an organic/fair trade snob (I'm all for it but there's a point where it gets ridiculous). He gets containers of crushed fruits sold by a company called Dr. Smoothie. A 6 pack of 46 oz (or 276 oz) of crushed fruit goes for about $80, which is ~$.3/oz, or $2.40 for an 8oz container of juice. 6oz is what we typically use to make a 16oz smoothie (adding a bit of water and a lot of ice in, since it *is* a concentrate), which contains approximately the same nutritional value as a 16oz cup of fruit juice, but with the added nutrients of what you'd normally lose out on if you discarded the peels/rinds. So that's about $1 per 8oz serving of juice-equivalent.

I know it's not drinks, nor vegetables, but that's largely because there isn't much of a market for anything Juicero uniquely offers in 99.9% of anywhere. Some "savory" vegetables like ginger may be desired but typically any drink that requires a visit to the spice rack is going to have exactly that at the bar.

Also note that the per-ounce price of vegetables is generally a lot lower than fruit, since it's easier to harvest, store, and transport.

On a side note, I've also learned that you can make a two-liter bottle of healthy soda by taking a 12oz can of juice concentrate and dumping it into a two-liter bottle of club soda with the same amount missing.
 

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Xsjadoblayde said:
Strazdas said:
I agree, alternative analogy is like buying a game systyem that only plays a certain type of games, and btw these games are being made by the same people selling the system. What a waste of time and resources. Is it an intentional scam or are they just that stupid?

Oh wait i forgot exclusives are allowed to defy logic.
Okay, I'm not sure you put much thought into that comparison. Or any at all. Because it doesn't work. Not beyond the briefest of blurred/drunk surface observation. Just wanted to grind an axe?
Why does it not work? You are buying DMR limited proprietary device that can only work with proprietary items you are forced to purchase from the same guys that made the device.

Or is it magically different because you like consoles?