Just Nut Up And Do It

[HorrendusOne]

I'd like to say I know quite a few female artists some of which prefer to draw fantasy in a sexy manner rather then a realistic manner simple due to personal taste.

It might be just me, but I don't think this is a question of "sexy" vs "sexless". Perhaps I'm in a minority, but I don't find itsy bitsy chainmail bikinis and tits the size of hot air balloons to be the living definition of "sexy". It's not about being PRUDISH. I'll defend the (voluminous) quantities of nudity in Witcher 2, for example. There's something very...juvenile...about the approach to sexuality on display in that Tera art. That's the issue. For me, anyway. I don't think it's evil, but it certainly invites mockery.

You seemed to ignore my final say on the matter.

"It's really what you make of it. I mean I CAN look at it and see something, attractive, disgusting, silly, childish, egotistical,sexy, prudish, hot, normal, skimpy, mocking, juvenile etc. However a single perspective is just that.... a perspective."

There are so many perspectives that I see no reason to accept my own and reject all others. In my opinion each one is equally valid. Yes in we are both wrong yet both right. Double standards are in-moral not impossible.

 

[A Weakgeek]

Being super sexualized is one of the defining features in TERA. Its reached that point where changing it would be like removing an important gameplay feature or something, so many people have already bought this game for the boobs and butts (also man chests and metrosexual males with zippers only 1/3 way up). That may be considered as a good or bad thing, but don't act like its in every MMO ever.

If the men are dressed the same way I won't complain. Just make it equal.

I wouldnt say 100% equal, but its there...

Spoiler

 

[Fappy]

Let's reverse it then.

Also this is a good read: http://madartlab.com/2011/12/14/fantasy-armor-and-lady-bits/

I recognize the former picture from Pathfinder! Come to think of it Pathfinder's females all wear appropriate armor in the art. Go figure.

 

[jehk]

I recognize the former picture from Pathfinder! Come to think of it Pathfinder's females all wear appropriate armor in the art. Go figure.

What? No they don't. See Seoni. Pathfinder Iconic Sorcerer.

However, I won't complain about Pathfinder in the same way I do Tera.

See Seelah. Pathfinder Iconic Paladin.

It's all about options, people.

 

[Carbonyl]

THAT ISN'T HOW A SPINE WORKS
FOR FUCKS' SAKE
IT'S LIKE HER HIPS ARE DISLOCATED

I don't care how large the breasts are, or how perfect their curves are, I will even let the ridiculously impractical (and actually usually pretty unflattering) skimpy costumes slide, if they just MAKE THEM ANATOMICALLY FEASIBLE. It gives me the creeps. I've dissected squirrels with broken necks that looked like they had better posture than that female humanoid on its knees.
And I think the other one has some sort of deformity, its legs don't fit properly with ANY of the surrounding anatomy or each other.

I propose that they are in fact the unfortunate result of a secret and highly unethical scheme to mass-produce identical elf prostitutes, but they didn't use a large enough breeding population, and now the rampant inbreeding has produced these unfortunate individuals.

If you are going to pander, at LEAST make it aesthetically pleasing instead of nightmare-fueling.

P.S. BOOBS. YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. That is not what breasts look like, I should know, I have them, my friends have them, the nudists right outside my dorm have them. Those are not mammaries, those.... things... look like large bubbles that got trapped under the skin-like wallpaper you stretched over those INCORRECTLY ASSEMBLED TORSOS you probably bought from IKEA. It's not attractive, it's not enticing, it's just creepy.

 

[Nerexor]

oh my god....

is that promo imagine real?...sweet jesus

That's not even the worst or most "in your face" of it.

This is armor. ARMOR!

Oh my... In all honesty most fantasy armor is stylized to the point of uselessness. For men they wouldn't be able to move under all that, let alone swing their giant phal... swords. I meant swords. But this has to be the most literal interpretation of the chain mail bikini I've ever seen.

 

[OldDirtyCrusty]

Also this is a good read: http://madartlab.com/2011/12/14/fantasy-armor-and-lady-bits/

Yes, this is a really good read. I like Hildes Soul Calibur design most. It is nice on the eyes and looks serious enough.
I don`t think a female Conan should wear lots of armor. I hate metal bikinis and there are other ways to show this kind of warrior type. Give her a shild and let her run around in boots and leather skirt. All for high agility of course.


The female barbarian from Diablo looks like she`s wearing enough for being protected while remaining speed. Looks right to me and i like that the designers gave her fitting muscles. Not my type but it comes with a bit of realism, instead of skinny, lovely ladys swinging around broadswords and battleaxes.

I`ve no words for Teras armor design since there isn`t any armor ingame, but news and threads about it are always a good read.

 

[Patrick Buck]

This... This is...
So annoying. I mean, I'm 16, and male, so I assume I'm the target audience right? I don't want to buy this game. Quite frankly, if I'm not going to be humourous, I'm insulted this is what they think I buy games for, or that they think this game will appeal to me, just because there is a scantely dressed woman on the advertisement? No no no.

I buy them for the VIOLENCE.

 

[lacktheknack]

oh my god....

is that promo imagine real?...sweet jesus

That's not even the worst or most "in your face" of it.

This is armor. ARMOR!

Well, hey. Even though it changes her armor rating by -3, it increases her distraction rating by 9001.

dem high heels

 

[Irridium]

Not exactly related to the game, but I feel it's related to the general discussion at large.

Spoiler: This image is titled -What if the male Avengers posed like the female one?- (quotations won't work in spoiler preview text for some reason

Also, I support either everyone having practical clothing/armor, or men also running around in nothing but thongs and belts.

Or, if an MMO, just give us two clothing options. One for aesthetics, one for stats. So we can have all the stats and not look like a clown/stripper. Lord of the Rings Online does this, and I think all MMO's should do it.

 

[Azuaron]

As a side note, if anybody dressed like that IRL would they be considered "asking for it", I wander.

I don't care if they're naked, nobody's asking for it unless they say the words, "Yes, please, I want it."

 

[A-D.]

First off, the "Promo Image"..i like the eyes..and the lips and the lipstick..and the face in general, and the snake-armorish look..but where the fuck is her left arm? Or the left leg, either one is missing!..Also she's got a big rack but thats kinda beside the point.

Now to the good part though, i wouldnt personally mind if females get, you know, more eye-candy stuff to them, Armors not covering from head-to-toe is fine in my book IF there is a point to it. For example, lets take a piece of heavy armor, plate or something. On a male character it looks perfectly normal, covers everything that needs to be covered, you get a high Defense bonus for it and lose a bit of agility, on paper anyways, defense versus mobility. Now the females get the reverse, they get less cover, as such get bonus to mobility but less defense. Or better yet, give us a fucking toggle. Want to be all tanky? Get in that full-body metalsuit. Want to have eye-candy and not be tanky? Well just switch to stripperific metalsuit!

Problem could be solved easy, or at least they could have it make more sense than just showing off the goodies, because lets be honest, who's looking at it? Might be fun for like 10 minutes, then its old and you're just slapping weird monsters around anyway without paying attention to what your character looks like, same goes for people who might see you.

In short, i dont get the logic of having heavy platemail that covers barely anything be just as protective as the Guy's full body-covering variant of it. Doesnt cover everything? Well its less effective at being defensive but you can move easier, simple as that Devs, learn it already..and stop trying to cram porn into everything.

Captcha: stranger danger <---that is creepy..

 

[Sande45]

I like my fair share of TNA, but there's a right time and a place for it. Tera's bikini armor is not the way to go.

On the other hand, going too far the other way can hurt the experience as well. For example in Skyrim I find it very implausible and distancing for the world to be that asexual. I mean, I don't find any women even remotely pleasing to look at even in the skimpiest, most suggestive outfits. They're just so flat and bland. It feels like the artists went out of their way to avoid even the slightest hint of sexiness because of the flak that *gasp* tits may cause. That's pretty bad in a game where you're supposed to lose yourself in the world and find it believable.

So I guess it's all good when it feels like a natural part of the game and it's world, not rubbing it in our faces every five minutes saying "look at those BOOBS you dirty perv, you know you like them".

 

[MrHide-Patten]

So Boobs = Evil. Damn I be a slave of Satan.

And I must be a carrier of evil, I wonder if I get any perks out of it.

OT: That's a bit of the ridiculous. I guess I just found a good reason to not give a flying turd about this game.

Fair enough if they were the only race in the game, a measure of a good game in my eyes is one that gives players choice. If players want to dress up as some demonic succubus lookin' thingies they can, if they want to play as a generic armored person dojur they can, if they want to play as a pubescent neko girl then we can just alert the authorities.

In all seriousness the day humanity isn't allowed to have any fun with sexuality is the day I use the 'I don't want to live on this planet anymore' meme. Buncha' narks.

To be fair, if anyone wants to dress their character like that, they can go for it, I really don't care. As for me, I think it's stupid mainly because the whole point in armor is to protect you from being murdered quickly and I think it's impractical, and not so much because of the whole sexuality thing. I just won't be playing it because of that.

Now, if the whole game entire game was like that and didn't take itself seriously at all, then I would be totally fine with it and I might play it.

On any day of the week I wouldn't call what they are wearing 'armor', I would however refer to it as a type of clothing (skimpy clothing, but clothing), as it's probably part of the races cultural. As I'm sure the topless women of National Geographic gave a shit that they weren't wearing anything to protect themselves against the elements.
All I'm saying is, it's a FANTASY game, I can suspend disbelief if they can explain that shit in a way that makes sense in that worlds lore. If I wanted the game world to apply to coloqial norms of reality I'd go back and play Skyrim or something. Personally I'm sick to death of all the JRR Tolkein-esc fantasies. If these Demoinc race of skimpy characters talked to trees I wouldn't want to touch it.

On your last point; I'd love to see a combination of Saints Row and Skyrim. You've got the fantasy jargon, but you can have crazy stupid fun with it.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

So Boobs = Evil. Damn I be a slave of Satan.

And I must be a carrier of evil, I wonder if I get any perks out of it.

OT: That's a bit of the ridiculous. I guess I just found a good reason to not give a flying turd about this game.

Fair enough if they were the only race in the game, a measure of a good game in my eyes is one that gives players choice. If players want to dress up as some demonic succubus lookin' thingies they can, if they want to play as a generic armored person dojur they can, if they want to play as a pubescent neko girl then we can just alert the authorities.

In all seriousness the day humanity isn't allowed to have any fun with sexuality is the day I use the 'I don't want to live on this planet anymore' meme. Buncha' narks.

To be fair, if anyone wants to dress their character like that, they can go for it, I really don't care. As for me, I think it's stupid mainly because the whole point in armor is to protect you from being murdered quickly and I think it's impractical, and not so much because of the whole sexuality thing. I just won't be playing it because of that.

Now, if the whole game entire game was like that and didn't take itself seriously at all, then I would be totally fine with it and I might play it.

On any day of the week I wouldn't call what they are wearing 'armor', I would however refer to it as a type of clothing (skimpy clothing, but clothing), as it's probably part of the races cultural. As I'm sure the topless women of National Geographic gave a shit that they weren't wearing anything to protect themselves against the elements.
All I'm saying is, it's a FANTASY game, I can suspend disbelief if they can explain that shit in a way that makes sense in that worlds lore. If I wanted the game world to apply to coloqial norms of reality I'd go back and play Skyrim or something. Personally I'm sick to death of all the JRR Tolkein-esc fantasies. If these Demoinc race of skimpy characters talked to trees I wouldn't want to touch it.

On your last point; I'd love to see a combination of Saints Row and Skyrim. You've got the fantasy jargon, but you can have crazy stupid fun with it.

I do realize it's a fantasy game and somethings like the armor has to be be taken along with that. However, they can explain it anyway they like with the game's lore, I'm still not gonna buy the game because I think it's stupid and it doesn't impress me. If it knocks the socks off of other people and they have no problem with it, cool, just not my bag.

Also, I'm having an imagine in my head of a warrior beating a dragon with a giant purple dildo, kinda funny.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

So Boobs = Evil. Damn I be a slave of Satan.

And I must be a carrier of evil, I wonder if I get any perks out of it.

OT: That's a bit of the ridiculous. I guess I just found a good reason to not give a flying turd about this game.

Fair enough if they were the only race in the game, a measure of a good game in my eyes is one that gives players choice. If players want to dress up as some demonic succubus lookin' thingies they can, if they want to play as a generic armored person dojur they can, if they want to play as a pubescent neko girl then we can just alert the authorities.

In all seriousness the day humanity isn't allowed to have any fun with sexuality is the day I use the 'I don't want to live on this planet anymore' meme. Buncha' narks.

To be fair, if anyone wants to dress their character like that, they can go for it, I really don't care. As for me, I think it's stupid mainly because the whole point in armor is to protect you from being murdered quickly and I think it's impractical, and not so much because of the whole sexuality thing. I just won't be playing it because of that.

Now, if the whole game entire game was like that and didn't take itself seriously at all, then I would be totally fine with it and I might play it.

On any day of the week I wouldn't call what they are wearing 'armor', I would however refer to it as a type of clothing (skimpy clothing, but clothing), as it's probably part of the races cultural. As I'm sure the topless women of National Geographic gave a shit that they weren't wearing anything to protect themselves against the elements.
All I'm saying is, it's a FANTASY game, I can suspend disbelief if they can explain that shit in a way that makes sense in that worlds lore. If I wanted the game world to apply to coloqial norms of reality I'd go back and play Skyrim or something. Personally I'm sick to death of all the JRR Tolkein-esc fantasies. If these Demoinc race of skimpy characters talked to trees I wouldn't want to touch it.

On your last point; I'd love to see a combination of Saints Row and Skyrim. You've got the fantasy jargon, but you can have crazy stupid fun with it.

I do realize it's a fantasy game and somethings like the armor has to be be taken along with that. However, they can explain it anyway they like with the game's lore, I'm still not gonna buy the game because I think it's stupid and it doesn't impress me. If it knocks the socks off of other people and they have no problem with it, cool, just not my bag.

Also, I'm having an imagine in my head of a warrior beating a dragon with a giant purple dildo, kinda funny.

Fair enough, I'm not going to touch it because its an MMO. As much as I like titties, the thought of using said character around of bunch of people feels awkward. Probably why I use Mr as a prefix in my username.

 

[Mr Pantomime]

I'm probably a wierdo but if im playing a game in a medieval setting or fantasy setting I think it's infinitley hotter if the woman is wearing full armor. See M&B for example

But everyone in Mount and Blade has the polygon count of an early PS2 game! That is weird.