Just wondering, which are the "evil" gaming companies?
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I know phoenix wright didn't do the best it could in the west, but even still. It was one of my favorite series, so I hate them now. XDdarksakul said:
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In Nintendo's case, they did brick my Wii. I'm not sure why you assume I didn't take care of it, but it was right after I updated my wii by downloading one of their anti-piracy firmware patches. Many other people complained about the patch bricking their clean wii's as well. Also, I took great care of it. I never moved it, dropped it or anything and I put in disks carefully. The game disks I put in were clean and well taken care of. Even the controllers never made impact with anything. Charging me 75 dollars to fix what they broke is evil and I won't give them my money if I have to worry about them bricking it like that when I never even breached their ToS. The funny thing is, people like me had to pay 75 dollars while the actual pirates and console modders could unbrick their Wiis at any time.
Shamelessly re-releasing the same games over and over isn't really evil per se, I'll admit that, but knowing that there are other companies out there that strive to do more than create the same game over and over, but at the same time get lower or equal scores on review sites than them really just rubs me the wrong way, that's all. And then there's the fact that they've done the same thing they've always done for such a long time and have no intention to stop. It feels like they're lazy and don't respect respect their fanbase enough to actually go the extra mile, because they know that just because they're Nintendo, they don't have to and can rely solely on nostalgia. They can't even be bothered to write a new story every once in a while. It reminds me of the Madden series. >_>
Lazy and insulting, yeah, but probably not evil.
I mean, look at Final Fantasy. They write a new story, new characters, and designs and create new music and monsters with every installment of the series, with only fanfare like the chocobo to to link them. They COULD simply re-release Final Fantasy 7 every few years with just enough to differentiate it for the millions of fans that game has, but they try to give a new, memorable experience (milage/perceived greatness of each installment may vary) with every installment, instead. In fact, Final Fantasy 15 is already being talked about and even the turn-based aspect of the series may be dropped for action RPG gameplay instead. They put their best and most flagship series completely out there in order to give us new experiences with every game and while not every installment completely wows the fans or gaming community, it's something to be commended at least.
Maybe I'm just a little too passionate about gaming right now, but I just can't agree with how Nintendo treats its fanbase. That's why I felt like including Nintendo's antics in my post.
The problem isn't that they're milking the franchise. It's the exact opposite problem. Capcom has been pulling constant dick moves with the franchise by doing things like cancelling Megaman Legends 3. The only thing they themselves have made in recent history relating to Megaman (someone might need to fact check this) is Megaman 9 and 10, something which while nice, probably didn't require a whole lot of time to make in comparison to most games.tippy2k2 said:
They also didn't include Megaman X in Marvel vs Capcom and instead put in Zero. HUUUURRRRRGH.
There are no evil game studios, only ones that get things wrong - and that's all of them. Personally, the worst of the lot ATM is Ubisoft, next up is Bethesda for me personally. Ubisoft due to their 12 year old view on the PC market, and the stupid amounts of DRM they use, and Bethesda for being unable to release a game that is unbroken, and leaving Skyrim a mediocre 1 play through game where it could have been epic (IMO).
Valve: Trying to kill the physical copy, Responsible for the new age of DRM, mediocre games with too much praise, i could go on with this for quite a while.
They also seem to have no grasp of the concept of "Replay value"
They also seem to have no grasp of the concept of "Replay value"
I think it's rather obvious that people are using evil as a hyperbole here.BiscuitWheels said:
OT: I guess all of them, though less because they hate their userbase (though judging by how much hate they get, I wouldn't be surprised), and more so because of their terrible business aspects. In the end, they're out to get a buck. And it shows.
EA did unspeakable things to my dog 0.0Hugga_Bear said:
In all seriousness though, the only company I will not buy from is EA. Not because of Origin or bestiality allegations, but because of their piss poor CS. Took them 3 weeks to fix my account after they decided that because I put Origin on both my computers and tried to see if it would run on both at the same time, that I stole BF3 and was distributing it >_>
I understand that this is suppose to be a "Shock answer", but still.The Red Goblin said:
That makes no sense, even from looking at it from an objective stand point. The DRM they use works. The business model they run is flawless with rare complaints.
They're as good as game companies get.
EA did unspeakable things to my dog 0.0BiscuitWheels said:
In all seriousness though, the only company I will not buy from is EA. Not because of Origin or bestiality allegations, but because of their piss poor CS. Took them 3 weeks to fix my account after they decided that because I put Origin on both my computers and tried to see if it would run on both at the same time, that I stole BF3 and was distributing it >_>
EA made Mirrors Edge possible and funded Dead Space 2 despite Dead Space 1 selling under expectations.
Atari "saved" Ghostbusters:The Videogame.
...so who cares what company is "evil", all companies are evil and all companies are not evil. It's not that easy. But it's easy from a consumer perspective. If you don't want to put up with shit, don't buy it.
But saying "Boo, the Internet says that Electronic Ubivision is evul!!" is just childish
Atari "saved" Ghostbusters:The Videogame.
...so who cares what company is "evil", all companies are evil and all companies are not evil. It's not that easy. But it's easy from a consumer perspective. If you don't want to put up with shit, don't buy it.
But saying "Boo, the Internet says that Electronic Ubivision is evul!!" is just childish
Wrong. Spyware is software that monitors what is happening on a computer without users knowledge. I believe that Origin counts as spyware because they (Electronic Arseholes) never told anyone that Origin does anything spyware-like. The only reason you would know it is spyware would be if you frequented sites like The Escapist or if you did some research before installing Origin, which most people wouldn't because it is a "legit" company and it installs on their computer with whatever game.tippy2k2 said:
tl;dr EA didn't say it was spyware, it was discovered by individuals and a n00b ain't gonna know about it.
Flawless? Working DRM?JoesshittyOs said:
Valve does everything people hate about video game companies, but valve gets away with it because they're valve.
Valve is the emporer palpatine of vidya companies.
Sony, to much copy pasting other company's features and producing horrible stuff them self. psp go and psp e1000 anyone? region locked digital purchases on region lock free handheld? those are just giant fuck you statements to your customers.
EA is pretty much a given.
And as much i don't like steam Valve doesn't feel entirely evil yet, it's on it's way though.
EA is pretty much a given.
And as much i don't like steam Valve doesn't feel entirely evil yet, it's on it's way though.
What? Really?
Corporation and evil are pretty much synonymous right? ;p
Oh, alright. Yes. I'm joking. Sort of.
But considering what kinds of acts are traditionally seen as evil, the fact of the matter is corporations are evil by default, and only the fact that they are not all-powerful really keeps that in check.
(Remember, a corporation's only real purpose is to make a profit. Technically this is greed. And those familiar with traditional morality, (however misguided that might be), will note that greed is essentially evil.)
Anyway... Stupidity aside... I don't know. Atari annoys me personally, but that's entirely due to one incident.
Microsoft is evil. But that's not often recognised by gamers, because Microsoft's claim to evil comes from the early 90's, before they really did games.
It can be summed up in two ideas:
Microsoft = the Borg.
And the phrase: Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
(Basic advice from that era: Don't attempt to compete with Microsoft in anything, unless you're huge already, because they will steal your ideas, then crush you with their bottomless money reserves...)
Apple is evil... They do most of the things that made Microsoft evil, and somehow nobody notices. XD - Also, they bear a striking resemblance to a religious cult.
Hmm. I'm trying to think of some actual game companies, but I can't really think of any that haven't already been covered already.
(You know. EA, Activision, Ubisoft, etc.)
Sony may just about be evil too, but that's slightly harder to spot. Then again, they did once put rootkits on their Audio CD's, which is pretty evil.
(Putting a rootkit on someone's computer is definitely a step above and beyond mere DRM. A rootkit is something that you install without a person's knowledge, and which hacks the system such that the rootkit itself is invisible unless you have highly specialised tools designed to spot that specific rootkit.
And... Once you've got a rootkit on your computer, just about anything can be hidden in it, from keyloggers, to worms, to viruses... All without you having any way to tell it's there.)
Valve? Eh, they don't quite seem to be evil. They do have the potential to do a lot of damage if they did decide to be evil though, but that's not the same thing.
Nope. Kind of drawing a blank here for stuff that's actually relevant.
Corporation and evil are pretty much synonymous right? ;p
Oh, alright. Yes. I'm joking. Sort of.
But considering what kinds of acts are traditionally seen as evil, the fact of the matter is corporations are evil by default, and only the fact that they are not all-powerful really keeps that in check.
(Remember, a corporation's only real purpose is to make a profit. Technically this is greed. And those familiar with traditional morality, (however misguided that might be), will note that greed is essentially evil.)
Anyway... Stupidity aside... I don't know. Atari annoys me personally, but that's entirely due to one incident.
Microsoft is evil. But that's not often recognised by gamers, because Microsoft's claim to evil comes from the early 90's, before they really did games.
It can be summed up in two ideas:
Microsoft = the Borg.
And the phrase: Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
(Basic advice from that era: Don't attempt to compete with Microsoft in anything, unless you're huge already, because they will steal your ideas, then crush you with their bottomless money reserves...)
Apple is evil... They do most of the things that made Microsoft evil, and somehow nobody notices. XD - Also, they bear a striking resemblance to a religious cult.
Hmm. I'm trying to think of some actual game companies, but I can't really think of any that haven't already been covered already.
(You know. EA, Activision, Ubisoft, etc.)
Sony may just about be evil too, but that's slightly harder to spot. Then again, they did once put rootkits on their Audio CD's, which is pretty evil.
(Putting a rootkit on someone's computer is definitely a step above and beyond mere DRM. A rootkit is something that you install without a person's knowledge, and which hacks the system such that the rootkit itself is invisible unless you have highly specialised tools designed to spot that specific rootkit.
And... Once you've got a rootkit on your computer, just about anything can be hidden in it, from keyloggers, to worms, to viruses... All without you having any way to tell it's there.)
Valve? Eh, they don't quite seem to be evil. They do have the potential to do a lot of damage if they did decide to be evil though, but that's not the same thing.
Nope. Kind of drawing a blank here for stuff that's actually relevant.
Provide me an example of their shitty DRM, if you would. Because to me it really seems like the only reason you think it's bad is because DRM carries a negative connotation.The Red Goblin said:
And if you really wanna throw down the Star Wars, the only reason people hated Emperor Palpatine was because he wore black. He never really did anything that could undisputedly be called evil.
People see finger lightning and they freak the fuck out.