Justin Bieber: Never Say Never Trailer

[Wolfenbarg]

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It's pop music, it's not meant to be super-meaningful. Asking pop music to have deep, profound meaning is a bit like asking a computer game to have a good plot. It's just not what the medium is for, and anyone whining about the lack of such content is missing the point of why such a thing exists in the first place. Most people who hate popular music do so because they don't understand how it works, or why it works. I used to hate it myself many years ago, until I got involved in the industry and had my eyes opened to exactly what is involved.

While I generally agree with your statement, that is a terrible analogy on computer games. Saying no computer games have good plots pretty much shatters most of the classic stories in video games, and even some of the greatest stories ever told in the medium. Come on man.

The trailer looks pretty good and quite inspiring. The only problem is that it isn't timely at all. He's still in the prime of the life of most pop stars, so it's not really that special that he's still so big. Have another year or two go by and if he's still around, then maybe we can agree that he means business. Until that point I still think he's a great drummer but an annoying singer. I may see it anyway for a conversation piece, but uh... yeah.

 

[BonsaiK]

It's pop music, it's not meant to be super-meaningful. Asking pop music to have deep, profound meaning is a bit like asking a computer game to have a good plot. It's just not what the medium is for, and anyone whining about the lack of such content is missing the point of why such a thing exists in the first place. Most people who hate popular music do so because they don't understand how it works, or why it works. I used to hate it myself many years ago, until I got involved in the industry and had my eyes opened to exactly what is involved.

While I generally agree with your statement, that is a terrible analogy on computer games. Saying no computer games have good plots pretty much shatters most of the classic stories in video games, and even some of the greatest stories ever told in the medium. Come on man.

The trailer looks pretty good and quite inspiring. The only problem is that it isn't timely at all. He's still in the prime of the life of most pop stars, so it's not really that special that he's still so big. Have another year or two go by and if he's still around, then maybe we can agree that he means business. Until that point I still think he's a great drummer but an annoying singer. I may see it anyway for a conversation piece, but uh... yeah.

You're taking my analogy out of context. I didn't say that no computer games have good plots (although only a very small percentage do - most of the best computer game plots would be laughed out of B-movie studios). I said that expecting a game to have a good plot, and then bitching about it when this doesn't turn out to be the case, is missing the point of why people play games.

The movie is perfectly timely because Justin may or may not be big in a few years time. Better to release something like this right now while the kid is still hot in the marketplace.

 

[Substance-E]

It's pop music, it's not meant to be super-meaningful. Asking pop music to have deep, profound meaning is a bit like asking a computer game to have a good plot. It's just not what the medium is for, and anyone whining about the lack of such content is missing the point of why such a thing exists in the first place. Most people who hate popular music do so because they don't understand how it works, or why it works. I used to hate it myself many years ago, until I got involved in the industry and had my eyes opened to exactly what is involved.

While I generally agree with your statement, that is a terrible analogy on computer games. Saying no computer games have good plots pretty much shatters most of the classic stories in video games, and even some of the greatest stories ever told in the medium. Come on man.

The trailer looks pretty good and quite inspiring. The only problem is that it isn't timely at all. He's still in the prime of the life of most pop stars, so it's not really that special that he's still so big. Have another year or two go by and if he's still around, then maybe we can agree that he means business. Until that point I still think he's a great drummer but an annoying singer. I may see it anyway for a conversation piece, but uh... yeah.

You're taking my analogy out of context. I didn't say that no computer games have good plots (although only a very small percentage do - most of the best computer game plots would be laughed out of B-movie studios). I said that expecting a game to have a good plot, and then bitching about it when this doesn't turn out to be the case, is missing the point of why people play games.

The movie is perfectly timely because Justin may or may not be big in a few years time. Better to release something like this right now while the kid is still hot in the marketplace.

That's why even the slightly decent video game movies are heavily altered. A player driven plot doesn't translate into a passive experience of a movie. Its the same reason that book to movie translations take pretty liberal creative freedom...

 

[Wolfenbarg]

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You're taking my analogy out of context. I didn't say that no computer games have good plots (although only a very small percentage do - most of the best computer game plots would be laughed out of B-movie studios). I said that expecting a game to have a good plot, and then bitching about it when this doesn't turn out to be the case, is missing the point of why people play games.

The movie is perfectly timely because Justin may or may not be big in a few years time. Better to release something like this right now while the kid is still hot in the marketplace.

If the likes of Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, and Planescape: Torment would be laughed out of even B-movie studios, then I have zero faith in the industry.

Timely in terms of making its budget back, yeah, but is it timely in the public eye? Based on the trailer it looks like they're trying to reach out to an audience wider than just Justin Bieber fangirls, and if that's the case then it seems like it would be sane to wait until people at least stopped cracking Justin Bieber over things as minuscule as not liking a youtube video or sucking at a video game.