Kelis slams UK for racism

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Mouldy Cheese

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Speaking of feeling slightly ashamed for a couple of idiots from your country...I was on the train coming home yesterday and there were 2 French tourists sitting next to me. Opposite was a loud and incredibly bogan family swearing their heads off at each other and being a general nuisance. All I could think was what an awful stereotype these people were and how the tourists must have thought there a large majority of Aussies are like that.

*facepalm*
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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
Funny how you guys got rid of slavery LONG before us, and didn't have a bloody war over it.
Really funny most people forget slavery wasn't the real reason of the war, a minor issue when it came to Northern States taxing the southern to death to fund their social programs...and not spend the taxed money in the states it came from.

A conveniently forgotten truth.
 

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Jazoni89 said:
-Samurai- said:
I'm absolutely loving this.

Every time an American is in the news for anything, everyone goes;
"Well herp derp. That's America for ya! Fat, stupid, gun loving, sister fucking rednecks!"

But when an American says something like "UK is racist" it's;
"Well how dare you?! You can't judge an entire nation based on one asshole!"

Fucking love it.
Well she didn't obey a certain UK custom.

Thou shall not budge in the queue.

It's actually considered extremely rude in the UK. She should of abided by our customs. There's no wonder she got shouted at. It would be the same for anyone including me, and trust me i have been shouted at for it by complete strangers in the past.

I mean, if I went to the US, I won't be suddenly jaywalking everywhere, because it's extremely rude to (and illegal too). Even though it perfectly alright to do that in the UK abiet very risky, especially in London, and other crowded cities. Though, I admittedly do it quite a lot, see their's some cultural differences right there! Something that Some of you Americans (like Kelis) fail to grasp at.
The article doesn't say the line jumped, it says she was accused of doing so.

Apparently some people have a hard time understanding the difference between doing something, and being accused of doing something, as is apparent in this thread.
 

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This example is ridiculous. You don't claim an entire country is backwards just because of one isolated incident (was that literally the only example she had?).

Having said that, though, Britain does have its share of racial issues. Though it's not as bad as practically the rest of Europe, so I dunno if it's worth calling it out about it.

Carlston said:
If your black, there were no "free" men till Lincon, not a single willing dark skinned African who willing came here and was part of the founding. THEY write themselves out, to of course, remain innocent victims who need to be given gifts today.
...Okay, you're going to have to show me some proof of this claim, because otherwise I have to call BS on this.

No one cares to mention first slaves in the USA were Irish...
They were the first, yes. They also suffered from various forms of discrimination. But they also got a lot of rights before their black counterparts, and thus, while obviously affected to some extent, didn't suffer from discrimination to the same extent overall, hence why there is somewhat of a disparity (perhaps not to a fair degree, but...there you go).

no one cares many whites didn't show up till slaver was long dead and over.
...What?

Who gets the college funds? The educational loans? Big tip, not the white guys.
This is completely false, and if you had gone to college you ought to have figured that out quite easily...

200 years after it's over and they expect to be treated as kings while being allowed to be racist with no consequences.
200 years after what was over? Racial discrimination? Because that's still going on, and even if we wanna pretend racial discrimination in the US ended at the end of the Civil Rights Movement (which is absolutely false, but let's pretend for the sake of argument), that was max 50 years ago (i.e., recent enough that there are plenty of people alive now who were alive during that movement). Try putting that into context.
 

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Lukeje said:
scw55 said:
I live in North Wales. The only "racism" here is angry welsh people vocally insulting the English.
Why is racism in inverted commas? It is racism.
They're Welsh, we don't listen to them. We just buy their houses in stoic retribution and only use them two weeks of the year.
 

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-Samurai- said:
Jazoni89 said:
-Samurai- said:
I'm absolutely loving this.

Every time an American is in the news for anything, everyone goes;
"Well herp derp. That's America for ya! Fat, stupid, gun loving, sister fucking rednecks!"

But when an American says something like "UK is racist" it's;
"Well how dare you?! You can't judge an entire nation based on one asshole!"

Fucking love it.
Well she didn't obey a certain UK custom.

Thou shall not budge in the queue.

It's actually considered extremely rude in the UK. She should of abided by our customs. There's no wonder she got shouted at. It would be the same for anyone including me, and trust me i have been shouted at for it by complete strangers in the past.

I mean, if I went to the US, I won't be suddenly jaywalking everywhere, because it's extremely rude to (and illegal too). Even though it perfectly alright to do that in the UK abiet very risky, especially in London, and other crowded cities. Though, I admittedly do it quite a lot, see their's some cultural differences right there! Something that Some of you Americans (like Kelis) fail to grasp at.
The article doesn't say the line jumped, it says she was accused of doing so.

Apparently some people have a hard time understanding the difference between doing something, and being accused of doing something, as is apparent in this thread.
Well, there's got to be a reason for the sudden outburst. Us brits can be quite reserved people even at the worst of times.

That's not to say we are perfect, but as I said there must be a reason for all of this to kick off.
 

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flaming_squirrel said:
Ah the French, one of the few things that brings us all together in united mockery.
What would we do without them.
Take the piss out of the Germans, of course.
 

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An AMERICAN is bashing BRITAIN for racism?

AH HA HA HA HA HA OH WOW

Sorry, even if she WAS racially abused, basing a country's attitude on one asshole and closet BNP fan is pretty disgusting in itself.
Welcome to American media. Everything is taken out of context and there's always someone waiting to call you a racist...only if you're white.
 

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Jazoni89 said:
-Samurai- said:
Jazoni89 said:
I mean, if I went to the US, I won't be suddenly jaywalking everywhere, because it's extremely rude to (and illegal too). Even though it perfectly alright to do that in the UK abiet very risky, especially in London, and other crowded cities. Though, I admittedly do it quite a lot, see their's some cultural differences right there! Something that Some of you Americans (like Kelis) fail to grasp at.
The article doesn't say the line jumped, it says she was accused of doing so.

Apparently some people have a hard time understanding the difference between doing something, and being accused of doing something, as is apparent in this thread.
Well, there's got to be a reason for the sudden outburst. Us brits can be quite reserved people even at the worst of times.
Evidently not, considering, worst-case, she did cut the line and the Brit got so irate about it that he started going Bigot on her.

Taking your jay-walking example (which people do all the time in the US so it's a poor example, but anyway), not even in New York City (where manners are optional) are people going to start throwing out racial slurs just cause you crossed the street at the wrong time--unless they are already inclined to be bigoted jerks anyway. I wouldn't be shocked if that was the case in this incident as well.
 

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minuialear said:
Jazoni89 said:
-Samurai- said:
Jazoni89 said:
I mean, if I went to the US, I won't be suddenly jaywalking everywhere, because it's extremely rude to (and illegal too). Even though it perfectly alright to do that in the UK abiet very risky, especially in London, and other crowded cities. Though, I admittedly do it quite a lot, see their's some cultural differences right there! Something that Some of you Americans (like Kelis) fail to grasp at.
The article doesn't say the line jumped, it says she was accused of doing so.

Apparently some people have a hard time understanding the difference between doing something, and being accused of doing something, as is apparent in this thread.
Well, there's got to be a reason for the sudden outburst. Us brits can be quite reserved people even at the worst of times.
Evidently not, considering, worst-case, she did cut the line and the Brit got so irate about it that he started going Bigot on her.

Taking your jay-walking example (which people do all the time in the US so it's a poor example, but anyway), not even in New York City (where manners are optional) are people going to start throwing out racial slurs just cause you crossed the street at the wrong time--unless they are already inclined to be bigoted jerks anyway. I wouldn't be shocked if that was the case in this incident as well.
Even so, It's a isolated incident, and shouldn't be use to judge a whole country.
 

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"However, it should be noted that if the incident had occurred that the man would have been from a non-European Union country as European Union citizens (which includes British people) would not be in the same immigration queue as US citizens." - Wiki (naturally)

There is racism in this country. I find mostly casual racism that doesnt lead to violence but it sort of accepted in society. In that field I actually agree with her when she says we sweep it under the rug. However I think her comment was very ignorant of many things in this country. I'm sure it was wrote out of frustration of the situation and less about the actual racial nature of our nation. After all two dickheads do not mean 70 million Brits.

And for all the people bashing American racism... FFS read the article - She even states that HER COUNTRY is the poster boy for racial inequality. Stop having a fucking go at the Americans already! I love the fact that people are saying 'don't judge all of us for what a few did' and yet we seem to be doing the exact same...
 

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Jazoni89 said:
minuialear said:
Jazoni89 said:
-Samurai- said:
Jazoni89 said:
I mean, if I went to the US, I won't be suddenly jaywalking everywhere, because it's extremely rude to (and illegal too). Even though it perfectly alright to do that in the UK abiet very risky, especially in London, and other crowded cities. Though, I admittedly do it quite a lot, see their's some cultural differences right there! Something that Some of you Americans (like Kelis) fail to grasp at.
The article doesn't say the line jumped, it says she was accused of doing so.

Apparently some people have a hard time understanding the difference between doing something, and being accused of doing something, as is apparent in this thread.
Well, there's got to be a reason for the sudden outburst. Us brits can be quite reserved people even at the worst of times.
Evidently not, considering, worst-case, she did cut the line and the Brit got so irate about it that he started going Bigot on her.

Taking your jay-walking example (which people do all the time in the US so it's a poor example, but anyway), not even in New York City (where manners are optional) are people going to start throwing out racial slurs just cause you crossed the street at the wrong time--unless they are already inclined to be bigoted jerks anyway. I wouldn't be shocked if that was the case in this incident as well.
Even so, It's a isolated incident, and shouldn't be use to judge a whole country.
Didn't say it should be (in fact in an earlier post I state this almost word for word); however that doesn't mean that there weren't any flaws with what you stated before.
 

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ToTaL LoLiGe said:
It was only last month that people were rioting because a black person was shot by police, that shows that the UK are total racists.
No no, people were rioting because they wanted free shit.
 

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Jazoni89 said:
-Samurai- said:
I'm absolutely loving this.

Every time an American is in the news for anything, everyone goes;
"Well herp derp. That's America for ya! Fat, stupid, gun loving, sister fucking rednecks!"

But when an American says something like "UK is racist" it's;
"Well how dare you?! You can't judge an entire nation based on one asshole!"

Fucking love it.
Well she didn't obey a certain UK custom.

Thou shall not budge in the queue.

It's actually considered extremely rude in the UK. She should of abided by our customs. There's no wonder she got shouted at. It would be the same for anyone including me, and trust me i have been shouted at for it by complete strangers in the past.

I mean, if I went to the US, I won't be suddenly jaywalking everywhere, because it's extremely rude to (and illegal too). Even though it perfectly alright to do that in the UK abiet very risky, especially in London, and other crowded cities. Though, I admittedly do it quite a lot, see their's some cultural differences right there! Something that Some of you Americans (like Kelis) fail to grasp at.
The funny thing about that is that jaywalking isn't considered rude here. In fact, people often don't even know what jaywalking is. That's how common it is.

I'm not going to defend this woman. In fact, I haven't even given her the dignity of me learning her name by reading the article.

But frankly the fact she's being equated with america is... disturbing.

Don't blame America. Blame the American.

Because she sucks.

MASTACHIEFPWN said:
Funny how you guys got rid of slavery LONG before us, and didn't have a bloody war over it.
Typical new yorker BS...

Slavery didn't become an issue in the civil war until Lincoln decided it would help boost northern morale. The south just wanted to secede, period.
 

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HalfTangible said:
Don't blame America. Blame the American.

Because she sucks.
I'd go as far as to say to just blame the person. Nationality doesn't even need to be included.