Ken Levine Wants You To Stop Staring At His Big Sisters

[MPerce]

If it's such a big deal to you, Levine, give her something to wear over the bodice. Look at Alyx Vance: one of the most beautiful female characters ever designed and she's wearing a completely normal shirt and jeans.
Really though, her outfit doesn't show much compared to most female videogame characters, and her boobs aren't that huge by those same standards.

 

[LazyAza]

If he didn't want people talking about her boobs why did they design her with her cleavage so predominantly on display? Theirs nothing wrong with someone showing off their body if they are comfortable doing so but what did he think was going to happen when she goes around wearing something like that?

Also the internet isn't a good indicator of the "best" of people anyway, I certainly don't look at Elizabeth and just think nothing but yay boobs as shes clearly way more interesting than that what with the time powers and whatnot.

 

[Mullahgrrl]

Why don't they give her a blouse?

I am not entirely convinced that her cleavage is historically correct.

 

[uzo]

In all honesty, I didn't actually notice her breasts until I read the article.

Them eyes !!!! Do Want! !

 

[mad825]

Talk about being shot in the foot and then medicating the head. It's really just a sham, an excuse to apply sex appeal to a game without having even to admit that the art was going in that direction.

 

[theultimateend]

Well Ken, you guys could have made her a "plain jane," average looking woman. Any credible narrative reason why you chose to make her a busty babe instead?

Any credible narrative reason to make her plain jane?

You do realize that the genetics are the same either way right?

Me drawing an Ace of Diamonds is no less likely than drawing a 2 of clubs.

In all honesty, I didn't actually notice her breasts until I read the article.

Them eyes !!!! Do Want! !

Same. A bunch of folks hung up on sexuality is what it sounds like. The Levine fellow included.

It's boobs, by changing them he's just admitting they are important. And if they are important then his original argument falls flat to me.

 

[ProjectTrinity]

I am going to ignore that whole "Shouldn't Look" argument and stick to the topic. I'm just going to parody it and say "lol staring MUST = rude and guy views her as an object. lololololol"

Ah, society: the very root of ignoring even the most innocent of nature.

As for Elizabeth, well, she's a game character. A work of art that the creator has the power to control and it was his choice ~entirely~ to make his art as it is. He's decently versed in philosophy (clearly), he should know the basic human desires by now. If the artist is that bothered by the commentary, well...he should do something besides complain. Of course, if he's confident that her chest size won't affect the overall art, then his entire rant is meaningless...or just awkward.

Yes, awkward was the word for this article.

 

[Cette]

I've gotta say that this article is the first time I even notice the breasts over her weird bobble head and giant freak eyes. Have all the the characters been made more cartoonish or is she the lone exception in a world of more realistically proportioned people?

That aside now that it's been pointed out I can't help noticing them so mission accomplished I guess?

 

[Agiel7]

Wasn't really aware it was that much of an issue beyond good-natured humour (so there might have been some borderline-sexist comments and rule 34 images, but the latter there is virtually nothing anyone can do about). But hey, Ken Levine, you reap what you sow.

 

[thirion1850]

>Make big breasts.
>Complain about the internet staring at them.

Wait. What? Granted I've always seen this character as refined and elegant rather than sexploited, but I suppose that may have something to do with the game and time period in question.

 

[godofslack]

It takes a special kind of idiocy to go and say "Hey the internet is enjoying the figure of this character, better go change it"

Seriously? What are you thinking? Why on earth would take something that is CLEARLY aesthetically appealing and change it because certain components of a population are finding the "wrong" parts of a figure appealing. I'm sure some people will really notice the eyes, and they are really good, but weakening the cleavage in an attempt to herd more people into watching the eyes is foolish. The choice really is make the eyes better, assuming you can do so, or accept that some people will stare at her rack.

 

[Iron Mal]

Dude we should be able to wear what we want. If men can't control themselves it isn't our fault, we have every right to complain if a guy is creeping on us.

Weirdly enough my statement there (nice of you to ignore the rest of my post by the way) wasn't saying that you can't wear what you want (at the end of the day it's your body and your choice).

What I was saying is that it's a tad hypocritical to chew a guy out for looking at what you are openly displaying to the world (so in the end, yes it actually is your fault, you could have chosen to not wear something that shows and accentuates your cleavage).

Feel free to wear what you want but know that with the right of choice comes the responsability of taking into account how people are going to react.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Dude we should be able to wear what we want. If men can't control themselves it isn't our fault, we have every right to complain if a guy is creeping on us.

Weirdly enough my statement there (nice of you to ignore the rest of my post by the way) wasn't saying that you can't wear what you want (at the end of the day it's your body and your choice).

What I was saying is that it's a tad hypocritical to chew a guy out for looking at what you are openly displaying to the world (so in the end, yes it actually is your fault, you could have chosen to not wear something that shows and accentuates your cleavage).

Feel free to wear what you want but know that with the right of choice comes the responsability of taking into account how people are going to react.

Err why should I? He could, you know, be polite, have some decorum and not stare at my boobs...
I guess that's too much to ask though huh. I clearly only wore a revealing top so people could leer at me and not because I like the clothes...

If someone is staring to the point that it makes me uncomfortable I'm going to say something.

I think it's the insinuation of control I don't like
'You better wear something modest or we have every right make you feel bad.'

 

[Iron Mal]

Err why should I? He could, you know, be polite, have some decorum and not stare at my boobs...

I guess that's too much to ask though huh. I clearly only wore a revealing top so people could leer at me and not because I like the clothes...

Or the best solution you could both meet each other halfway and both take action.

And it would be fair to argue that even subconsciously there is a part of you that is proud of your body and wanted to display it, hence the wearing of revealing clothing.

This isn't suggesting that any woman who wears a lot-cut top or a short skirt is suddenly slutty or wants all men to stare and grope at her but what I'm getting at is that you obviously thought you looked good in it (hence you wore it) and yet now someone has the audacity to look (something they technically have a right to do even if it is a bit arsehole-ish) you take a stance of how it's their fault (now I think about it, in a proverbial situation it'd argueably be the fault of both of you since you'd both be contributors to the situation).

Again, you're free to wear what you want but you shouldn't be naive enough to think that everyone is automatically going to respect your desire to not be looked at in a public place just because you think that's the nice and polite thing to do (if you can't handle that implication then the simple solution is to opt out of the situation since it's painfully apparant that changing human nature on a grand scale is a task equal to stopping a tidal wave with a martini umbrella).

 

[Nomanslander]

Yeah, I'll be honest, I didn't really even notice just how.....er....noticeable her knockers were until this thread. Now I can't stop starring at them and looking up more photos on google. Thanks a lot Escapist....you guys suck! XP

Oh and if Levine decides to cover up those hush puppies now I'll kill him...XP

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

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It's more the fact that you don't think it's the polite thing to do and blame the woman 100% in your original post. :/

Some men seem to think we dress up for them and so therefore they have a right to act like jerks or something.

 

[1blackone]

On topic, if you don't want people to look don't make them so prominent you moron.
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Exactly, for reference, see Alex, Mr. Levine. Honestly, Its as if some devs never even play other games.

 

[Iron Mal]

It's more the fact that you don't think it's the polite thing to do and blame the woman 100% in your original post. :/

Some men seem to think we dress up for them and so therefore they have a right to act like jerks or something.

I think staring at a woman's more private areas in public is a very arseholish thing to do and frown upon those who do it but at the same time I don't really have a whole lot of sympathy for people who argueably put themselves into the situations they complain about (regardless of if they're men, women or anything in between or outside of our mortal comprehension of gender), I'd be making the same arguement if it was a man complaining about women staring at him for the way he dressed.

To be fair, everyone dresses up for someone (I admitantly make an extra effort for my girlfriend to make her happy and she does the same even though I tell her she's already beautiful and doesn't need to do anything extra) so to a certain extent women do dress up for men as well as each other and themselves (and men do the same, just less fuss is made of a man's attire and appearance).

As for 'some men seem to think they have the right to act like jerks or something', you are aware that they are a very vocal minority, right? (just like the 'overzealous fem-nazi' or 'money-grubbing gold-digger' stereotypes do show up but are in no way representitive of the majority of feminism or women respectively)